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From: MSN Nicknamemeemaw99991  (Original Message)Sent: 9/8/2006 7:09 PM
OKAY WE ARE NOT ALOWED TO WIRETAP WE ARE NOT ALOWED TO PROFILE THEY ALOW PEDIPHILES TO WALK AFTER 60 DAYS SOMETIMES ALL OF 2 YEARS ALL OF THIS IS TO PROTECT THEIR RIGHTS!!!!!! YET WE KILL AND CONDONE KILLING OF OUR UNBORN CHILDREN !!!!!!!!!!                                 AS A NATION WE DESERVE EVERYTHING WE GET!!!!!!!!!


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From: DanSent: 9/8/2006 11:25 PM
 
Well, let's look at it.  
 
We actually are allowed to wiretap.  The president and the administration has virtually an open check to wire tap just about anyone.  They just need to get a judge's approval first.  Actually, they don't need to get it first.  They can go ahead and do the wiretap, and then come back and get the approval retroactive. 
 
In the previous two years prior to President Bush beginning to ignore the law that said they had to at least go back and get approval, the judges had said no on precisely six, that's SIX requests out of thousands of requests.  But those six were apparently too many.  But instead of going back and asking cogress to change the law, he just took the law into his own hands. 
 
Some people think that's wrong.  Others think he had the right to do that.  He obviously thinks he can do it and get away with it.  And, so far, he has.  However, one judge has told him to stop that.  That he must get approval to wiretap, as the law clearly states. 
 
Profiling.  Actually, they do profile.  The FBI has people who specialize in profiling.  The fact that many of the airport security firms are not doing a good job with it doesn't mean it's not allowed.  It means they need to be better trained.  Unfortunately, there's no money in the budget for training. 
 
I don't know about pedophiles walking after 60 days.  I'm not sure what you're talking about there. 
 
Abortion is a subject that is a tough one for me.  I personally don't like it.  I happen to agree that we are building a "culture of death".  And I think that we should be pushing alternative methods of dealing with unwanted pregnancies. 
 
However, I have to say that this is a decision that should be between a woman and her doctor.  I don't believe it's something that I should have the right to put my own moral judgement on someone else. 
 
It's God's job to judge.  Nowhere do I find it my job.  My job, according to Jesus is to "Love the Lord my God with all my heart and all my soul and all my mind.  And to love my neighbor as myself." 
 
Nothing in there about judging anyone.  So I try to leave that to God.  If I'm called to a jury, then of course I'll have to pass judgement.  But that would be according to law, not my own moral way of thinking.  Do you see the difference? 
 
No, we don't deserve everything we get in my humble opinion.  We're a great country.  And we're full of great people. You and I are two of them.   
 
Love,
 
Dan

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From: MSN Nicknamemeemaw99991Sent: 9/9/2006 1:47 AM
MURDER NOT MATTER HOW YOU SPELL (ABORTION) IT SOMEONE DIES THATS NOT JUDGING THATS A FACT

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From: MSN NicknameSilver_AmythesytSent: 9/11/2006 8:53 PM
No Meemaw, that's a judgement.
I have been pregnant three times, so three times, I have had to consider whether to forfeit the pregnancy, or to continue it term. Obviously, since I have three children we all can see I chose to continue the pregnancy to term. But just because I did not choose to end any of my pregnancies did not mean that no one else should be forced to do the same. Abortion is a question that can only be answered for each woman at the time of each pregnancy, by that woman within her relationship with her God and her physician. I say it is a judgment on whether it is a death because first we must decide what is life? And, what is it that dies if in fact something does die. Life is an illusion that we must endure until we awaken from the dream and return to the God. The only part of us that truly lives is our spirit, our soul, our mind... and that can never die so therefore, abortion kills nothing. That we experience life is not proof that it exists. 
I agree with you Dan in part anyway, that our 'job' is to love... but it is more than that. Our job is to forgive each other, as the sin... the guilt... does not exist... and in forgiving others we forgive ourselves... and will awaken.
SilverAmythesyt

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From: DanSent: 9/11/2006 9:45 PM
If you believe that a fetus is a baby at the moment of conception, then indeed, I can see how you can view a first trimester abortion as murder. 
 
However, for the first trimester, the fetus looks mostly like a fish.  It's not viable outside the uterus.  It's not recognizably human.  After the third month that changes rapidly.  The heart and lungs develop, as well as the arms and legs and the features of the face, so that by the 5th or 6th month the baby is actually viable outside of the uterus, albeit with a lot of specialized care. 
 
Murder?  Maybe.  But so far the courts don't think so, and neither do a majority of Americans. 
 
Hugs and lots of love,
 
Dan

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From: MSN Nicknamemeemaw99991Sent: 9/11/2006 10:57 PM
THE BABY MAY LOOK LIKE A FISH BUT IT IS NOT LIKE GRAVY YOU ADD AIR YOU GET A BABY IT EITHER IS OR ISNT EVEN SCIENCE SAYS THAT THE FETUS (BABY ) IS LIVING  AND HAVING AN ABORTION DOSENT MAKE YOU NOT PREGNANT IT MAKES YOU THE MOTHER OF A DEAD BABY AND I SAY WAIT TILL THEIR TEENAGERS THEN DECIDE IF YOU WANT THEM THEN KILL-EM

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