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From: MSN NicknameSaphire1299  (Original Message)Sent: 5/17/2008 2:19 PM
My first time here and as many of you know I have had numerous operations, cancer, diabetes and I am doing just fine with all that.
Two years ago my daughter was a security guard and one night she got in an elevator and pressed the button and the elevator fell 30 feet to the bottom. She was in serious condition and had many treatments of all forms and then she seemed to be getting better or so it seemed. I am the only one that she has to help her and I always will. My problem is she doesen't like me for some reason she acts like she resents me but calls me for everything she needs. It's hard to explain. I buy her food take her for all her appointments (my husband won't take her in his car )and do just about everything. She lives in her own home with her son who is useless to her.
My big problem is she won't take a shower or change her clothes since about 6 months, your reading right 6 months. She stinks to high hell and wont fix her hair which is all matted up. here's the thing.. every time there is a party or an event she wants me to take her and the hosts of the party don't want her in the home for obvious reasons. We have a baptism coming up for her neice and she says she's going but I not supposed to bring her there and I can't tell her why because it would hurt her feelings and she would never talk to me again. No one else will tell her they say it's up to me .She won't survive without my help. I'm so worried about her don't know what to do. Advice anyone would be welcome.
 
The stress is playing havoc on my sugar levels.


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From: MSN NicknameVeets10Sent: 5/17/2008 2:46 PM
Indeed this is so sad. But, not matter what physical problems your daughter has and the physical trauma her body has endured there seems to be a component of severe depression going on here. Her lack of personal hygiene is probably a symptom of her mental state. I am not telling you to confront her on this issue but could you suggest she get some counseling? I am sure a therapist would address the hygiene issue right on because it is so obvious.

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From: safk1221Sent: 5/17/2008 3:11 PM
2 issues going on here
!) Your daughter "hates" you?  Doubtful.  She probably just resents that you have become her caregiver, as well as her mother.  It might suit you both better if an independent nurses aide or another professional could intervene.  If she is disabled and on Medicare, they will (most likely) cover the expense.  This individual would also be responsible for seeing she is showered and dressed each day.  And there would be NO issue..it WOULD be done whether she likes it or not.  And no resentment toward you, because you are no longer in charge.  A professional, no-nonsense person is holding the reins.
2) Your daughter wants to appear with you in a public arena.  This is an embarassment to you, as well as offensive to your hosts.  Well, Saphire, TELL HER!  She is an adult.  There is no excuse for her behaving like a baby who is happy in a soiled diaper.  It is not only offensive, it is a health hazard to herself and others.  Tell her she is not welcome, and tell her why.  She won't hate you.  She will respect you for your honesty.  And if she is angry...a temporary problem.  Are you also responsible for her food?  Tell her, "no clean no food!"
6 MONTHS!  You gotta be kidding me?!  You put up with it for THAT long?  Time to stop coddling her.
Geez, darlin'...you know Chap has that brain injury?  Well his breath stunk.  So I raised cain with the nurses, and insisted the brush his teeth after every meal.  EVERY MEAL!!  He spent thousands on periodontal care, and they were letting his teeth rot in his mouth!  And you know what?  He didn't like it the first time.  But he insists on it himself now!
When I was an anorexic in my teens, the doctors insisted I eat.  To such an extent that I was not permitted to leave the bed (even to "go"...I had to use a bed pan!  UGH!) , or watch TV, unless I ate my entire hospital tray.  Harsh.  But it worked.
Tough love, my friend!
I think that it is you who is afraid of her wrath.  Yes...she went through trauma.  But so did you.  Don't we all, to some extent?  Having a child who is sick, injured or in pain is the hardest thing for a mother!  She's a mother...she should recognize that!  If you find her unmanageable, perhaps you should seek counselling.  We cannot change another person's way of thinking or feeling.  Only our own.  And are  you really physically strong enough to do everything yourself?
Keeping you in my prayers.  Always thinking of YOUR health, Saphire!  Please DO ask your daughter's doctor about getting an aide.  And you have enough on your own plate...you certainly cannot handle an adult who remains an unruly child.  Get some help with her care, if you can.  JMHO...HUGS!  sheryl

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From: sarahQSent: 5/17/2008 10:15 PM
Hi Saphire, wow you do have a lot to put up with.
No1 in this is you. Look after yourself 1st.
Your daughter needs prof help.
I agree 100% with what Sheryl says.

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From: MSN NicknameVeets10Sent: 5/18/2008 5:40 AM
Though I agree in theory with all Sheryl said.. we don't know enough about this situation to give the 100% do this kind of advice. Saph... If there are other caretakers and systems in place for your daughter I would "push" them by informing them of her condition and that her lack of concern for hygiene is effecting all other aspects of her life. But.... If she has none of these safety nets in place I understand that you fear that if YOU are the one who tells her these things and she responds by rejecting you (even on a short term basis) you have made the situation worse.
 
This is a journal... that you have invited us to share with you so if there are further details that will allow us to help you and your daughter I hope you give the details and let us in a little more..
 
We care... we want to help u make good decisions on this problem.

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From: deafmackSent: 5/19/2008 8:26 AM
I am going through something similar with my sister and my being her caretaker. She is so stubborn. Of course part of it is depression at having the life she dreamed of being curtailed so cruelly. The second thing is you need to get other care for her to give you some relief. My sister listens to people who are not her relatives much better than she listens to me. I am sure your daughter will be the same way. You can get choreworkers to come in two or three times a week and bathe her and help her wash her hair. She probably doesn't do so because she can't . Make the  arrangements for her and then tell her she has no choice. It is either this or a nursing home. Obviously she cannot take care of herself and you cannot be responsible for her 100% of the time. I  know this is hard but I am going through the same thing and I have had to deal with this as well.
It is time for a little "Tough Love"

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From: MSN NicknameSaphire1299Sent: 5/21/2008 1:09 PM
On Sunday we had a baptism ceremony for my grand-daughter and my daughter called me and asked what time I was leaving and I told her I couldn't take her unless she dressed up nice hoping she would agree with me, I said that her brother was coming in town and would like to see her and that everyone was dressing up in gowns and suits. It never phased her a bit she said I wear what i like , "who do they think they are".My son I going to have a talk with her maybe he will do better than I did. He is coming in town again next week just to visit her.
She has very expensive clothes which she keeps in a garbage bag. She won't hang them in her closet because they might get dusty!
The thing is she is well aware of what she is doing because she pays all her bills on time, she called me to take her to the bank. I am so embarrassed I won;t go in any place with her.I stay in my vehicle and wait for her.Now today she won't talk to me again I never know why and just ignor her because by tomorrow she will call me again all friendly. go figure.

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From: MSN NicknamemarkleyfourSent: 5/26/2008 12:17 PM
Hi Saphire Serena here. Been worried about you is what I have been. Good to see you somewhere. Our friend Cora has been trying to get a hold of you. I am sorry and saddened to hear about what you are going thru with your daughter. She is suffering from depression. It sounded familiar to me. I suffered from a serious depression after I had my first child. I wouldn't change clothes. I wouldn't bathe and I was really mean to everyone around me. You will have to tell her. That may hurt her but you have to tell her why. It might snap her out of it. Tough love is what she needs right now. Email me Saphire I have been worried about you. We miss you.
Serena

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From: MSN NicknameSaphire1299Sent: 7/17/2008 1:33 PM
Thank you all for your good advice. I got my daughter a home care worker, however she is not too happy with me. They are having a battle trying to help her. Her brother is the only 1 she talks too and he reports to me.  It's so hard to get help, they are so slow at doing anything.They said she is not mentally ill so they won't place her because She doesn't have to talk to me if she doesn't want too,and  she only neglects her own personal hygene. I got a friend of her's to talk with her and she threw her out of the house lol. I have to laugh because it's so sad but she is a trained in martial arts and a security guard and her friend is no match for her. Her brother is in the process of trying to get her to cut her hair. I will keep everyone updated soon as I know more. Saphire

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From: MSN NicknameSaphire1299Sent: 9/23/2008 1:49 AM
I will try to write again, My daughter is moved into a small appt and she has a care worker. she has changed her clothing but that is all. Guess it is better than nothing. She has a telephone and is asking for a computer and internet.First time something seems to be going right and guess what!! My husband just told me today he is leaving me.( that @##$$%%^&) after 31 years .
Saphire

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From: MSN Nicknamejayray464Sent: 9/23/2008 10:20 PM
 Melanie take care of your self xoxo

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