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| | From:  phivefigures (Original Message) | Sent: 11/23/2005 12:59 AM |
Hey, everybody, I'd like some of yours opinions about using sustained release Morphine Sulphate ("KAPANOL" by GlaxoSmithCline). I'm from Bosnia (that's where the war has been a couple years ago), 34 yr/of age, and a heavy H user for the last six years. About four months ago, (because here we don't have state sponsored Methadone programes or clinics, and generally, one can buy it only on the street and it's more expensive than H) my psychiatrist put me on "KAPANOL" sustained release pills, which are Morphine Sulphate, on a 400 mg dose taken once daily, usualy in the morning, or whenever I wake up on weekends and I'm keeping it that way, for four months, as I said. What is good about it, I actually never once thought about scorin' dope (and I had plenty of oportunities) and I'm in a very good physical shape (goin' to work, gym and maintainining generally "normal" lifestile, not using any other drugs except "Flormidal" [midazolamum], which is a sleeping aid). What I,m interested in is this: - is my condition so good only because I'm full of Morphine, and is there some more positive effects except that I'm using medicaly clean drug, can't OD (keeping the prescribed dosage), and, of course don't have to go scoring every day, and watch my back from ripoffs and police (I managed to stay off the police records for any kind of felony or, even misdemeanor) - I should've started weening off of it gradually, but it just doesn't work. I feel if 20mg is missing from my dose, so are there anybody on this kind of therapy to share expirience. - would it be OK to stay on it like Methadone Maintenance program? (they try to make a program of it, like MM Program. |
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I've just read a post in the methadone section where a guy says that (he's on MM for a long time) he recently begun to think of it like he has some desease (diabetes, or some such) and meth is his medicine with which he has to live the rest of his life. I like the thinking, and think it's perfectly applicable to me. The more I think about it I'm starting to come to terms with the desease, the medication and, most important, with myself. Anyways, that's my two cents. Stay cool. |
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Hi Phive,
What does your doctor say about your weaning off the
morphine????
Does he or she suggest you wean yourself off
slowly????
What you are asking seems to be that you want to stay on
the morphine at that dose forever and you want to know or want someone else to
tell you that's ok???
Only you can answer that.
I'm on morphine slow release tabs 30mg twice daily for
chronic back pain, have been on them since surgery last year.
After surgery I started with 120mg twice daily, down to
90mg, then I went to 30mg 3xday to 30mg 2x day.
I want off of them but I find out really quickly when I do
that My pain is too intense and My body goes thru withdrawals without
them.
The pain doc did give me MSIR, 30 mg and told me I could
wean of the long release morphine with the quick release morphine but it doesn't
control the pain as well so I have given up.
I do use the MSIR for breakout pain when I'm having a bad
painful day.
You have to decide if your content with the fact that you
are taking morphine everyday.
For me it control my pain but I don't like the reaction I
get from other people as to why I'm still taking morphine a year after
surgery.
My pain doc has NO problem with it at all, I see him
faithfully every single month but its me and my friends and family who have a
problem with it.
I wish you luck in whatever you decide to do.
I'm glad you are not on H anymore.
I have lost too many people to H.
Hugs Karen
p.s. I guess Im not much help, just wanted to let you know
I care.
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Subject: Morphine Sulphate for
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| From: phivefigures |
Hey, everybody, I'd like some of yours opinions about using
sustained release Morphine Sulphate ("KAPANOL" by
GlaxoSmithCline). I'm from Bosnia (that's where the war has been
a couple years ago), 34 yr/of age, and a heavy H user for the
last six years. About four months ago, (because here we don't
have state sponsored Methadone programes or clinics, and
generally, one can buy it only on the street and it's more
expensive than H) my psychiatrist put me on "KAPANOL" sustained
release pills, which are Morphine Sulphate, on a 400 mg dose
taken once daily, usualy in the morning, or whenever I wake up
on weekends and I'm keeping it that way, for four months, as I
said. What is good about it, I actually never once thought about
scorin' dope (and I had plenty of oportunities) and I'm in a
very good physical shape (goin' to work, gym and
maintainining generally "normal" lifestile, not using any other
drugs except "Flormidal" [midazolamum], which is a sleeping
aid). What I,m interested in is this:
- is
my condition so good only because I'm full of Morphine, and
is there some more positive effects except that I'm using
medicaly clean drug, can't OD (keeping the prescribed dosage),
and, of course don't have to go scoring every day, and watch my
back from ripoffs and police (I managed to stay off the police
records for any kind of felony or, even misdemeanor)
- I should've started weening off of it gradually, but it just
doesn't work. I feel if 20mg is missing from my dose, so are
there anybody on this kind of therapy to share expirience.
- would it be OK to stay on it like Methadone Maintenance
program? (they try to make a program of it, like MM
Program.
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What's up phivefigures and welcome, There are studies in Europe and I'm not
sure if the USA is still involved in a study or trial but they
were doing studies on using the long acting morphine in place of methadone and
the reason one may opt for it over methadone may be they cannot tolerate
the methadone or other personal reasons. There aren't long term data as there is
with methadone on the prognosis of someone on morphine for a long extended term
such as where you have methadone patients on a stable dose for upwards to 40yrs
with no real adverse long term effects. Naturally you have the common side
effects that you may get from any form of opioid such as constipation,low
testosterone in males on certain doses,dry mouth, sweating, etc things that can
be controlled.
I say if your dose is working for you and in 4 mo you haven't had the
necessity to have continuous increases then you have something that is working
and right now I wouldn't F*#@ with it. The problem they had in the
past is when they used short acting morphine and it was difficult to stabilized
a patient due to the constant peaks and valleys every 4 hrs or so and over time
they needed constant increases and the experiment was a flop and that was in
1950 in Lexington Ky
under the control of a Dr.Dole and from there he tried methadone and
found a winner and overtime he tweaked it and later his wife also a scientist
worked together in NY at Rockefeller insti. and that was the beginning of
methadone as a treatment tool and the end of using morphine.
But speeding up in the time line recently they found some success with
the long acting or sustained morphine as it metabolizes similar to methadone but
there is more potential for abuse in using any form of morphine.
One thing morphine along with methadone is a safe drug on your internal
organs especially with the liver. So I would say if it works then why mess with
it and keep a journal and write in it if you start to experience anything
different or weird and this way you have data for your doctor if it becomes nec
to adjust anything.
Wish you the best.
God Bless
Claude
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Subject: Morphine Sulphate for
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| From: phivefigures |
Hey, everybody, I'd like some of yours opinions about using
sustained release Morphine Sulphate ("KAPANOL" by
GlaxoSmithCline). I'm from Bosnia (that's where the war has been
a couple years ago), 34 yr/of age, and a heavy H user for the
last six years. About four months ago, (because here we don't
have state sponsored Methadone programes or clinics, and
generally, one can buy it only on the street and it's more
expensive than H) my psychiatrist put me on "KAPANOL" sustained
release pills, which are Morphine Sulphate, on a 400 mg dose
taken once daily, usualy in the morning, or whenever I wake up
on weekends and I'm keeping it that way, for four months, as I
said. What is good about it, I actually never once thought about
scorin' dope (and I had plenty of oportunities) and I'm in a
very good physical shape (goin' to work, gym and
maintainining generally "normal" lifestile, not using any other
drugs except "Flormidal" [midazolamum], which is a sleeping
aid). What I,m interested in is this:
- is
my condition so good only because I'm full of Morphine, and
is there some more positive effects except that I'm using
medicaly clean drug, can't OD (keeping the prescribed dosage),
and, of course don't have to go scoring every day, and watch my
back from ripoffs and police (I managed to stay off the police
records for any kind of felony or, even misdemeanor)
- I should've started weening off of it gradually, but it just
doesn't work. I feel if 20mg is missing from my dose, so are
there anybody on this kind of therapy to share expirience.
- would it be OK to stay on it like Methadone Maintenance
program? (they try to make a program of it, like MM
Program.
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Hey, Karen and Claude for caring at all, and I'm starting to think that both of you are right in two things. First, as Karen said maybe it's just me seeking someone to say that it's OK to take M all my life, which I do think (after long nights thinking about it), especially because nobody knows, except my emmidiate family. Other thing, both of you said is if it's working for me, (my family is OK with it too) why f%$k with it. Also, my doctor sugested lowering the dosage, but only if I am comfortable with it. Because I'm not, things are going to stay this way, at least for now. Thanks again for caring. p.s. the journal thing is not a bad idea, even as much as I remember, there was no variations in the level of pain, nor mood swings, it's just (one more thing) I somehow thaught that dosage is too high, but as you said if it s working...  "Reality is a crutch for those who can't handle drugs" Lily Tomlyn |
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