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| | | From: Masugu (Original Message) | Sent: 12/10/2002 6:12 PM |
Okay Folks;
As advertised I'm laying out the pluses and minuses of my on-line Genealogy subscriptions. I have annual subscriptions to both Ancestry.com and Genealogy.com.
ANCESTRY.COM, which appears to be an LDS affiliated organization, offers four annual, for-fee packages:
1) Annual U.S. Records Collection--I subscribe to this one
2) Annual U.S. Census Images and Indexes--I subscribe to this one also
3) Annual U.K. & Ireland Records Collection
4) Annual Historical Newspapers
The Annual US Records Collection includes a wide, albeit spotty, array of local, state, national and international resources to include:
1) Ancestry World Tree--registered family trees;
2) Birth, marriage and death records including a social security death index;
3) Military records-Colonial Wars right up to at least WWII;
4) Contemporary phone and address listings (linked to another for-fee service);
5) Biography and history--the AGBI, BGMI and assorted local histories;
6) Community and message boards--more birth, marriage and death records plus various message board queries;
7) Court Land and Probate records; and
8) Assorted city directories, farmer's directories, etc.--very spotty.
As with most of these on-line resources, records for Illinois are relatively scarce.
The Census Images and Indexes include images for all the US Censuses from 1790 to 1930. (For the 1890 Census they larded the data out with data from other sources such as city directories.) Of these they have indexes for 1790 through 1850, a partial for 1860, and full indexes for 1920 and 1930. Like all such indexes, including the LDS's vaunted 1880 index, there are plenty of typos, errors, omissions, misspellings, etc. Nevertheless, using their images along with on-line or other indexes (i'e., CDs, LDS, etc.) is very effective and a tremendous convenience. They plan to have Canadian data on-line soon and offer UK census info in their UK and Ireland package. Note: the gui (viewer) for Ancesty's census images is intended for MS Explorer and/or Mr Sid--a graphics tool from Lizard Tech which does not run on LINUX systems. I don't know if Mr. Sid will run on the Mac but would be surprised if it does. The best way to view these images is in a MS environment.
The other two packages, which I don't have, include periodicals (I assume obits., historical pieces, etc.) and a wide array of records from the UK and Ireland.
GENEALOGY.COM, owned by the Arts and Entertainment TV network, offers a wide array of subscription packages, both monthly and yearly, as follows:
1) Genealogy Library--a collection of resources to include directories of varous kinds--I have access
2) World Family Tree --on-line trees (not as useful as Ancestry's)--I have access
3) US Census Collection--I have access--this collection includes census images for 1790-1870, and 1890-1910. Of these, there are head-of-household indexes for 1790-1810, 1870, and 1890 (partial). The index for the 1900 census is every-name. 1910 is supposed to be indexed by the end of this month--this would be a real boon since indexes for 1910 are almost nonexistant! Note: The gui for these images is the best I've seen on-line.
4) International Passenger Records--I DO NOT have access
5) Family and Local Histories--I DO NOT have access.
6) Origins.net--a UK for-fee affiliate.
7) White Pages--contemporary address lookups--free service to a point.
8) Obit Messenger--for fee affiliate
9) Message Boards--assorted queries--free
10) Family Home Pages--info posted by members--free
11) Family Archives--in my experience this one always takes you to CDs for which you have to pay.
12) Social Security Death Index--free
Unfortunately, the search tools on Genealogy.com are harder to use and less forgiving than Ancestry's. However, there are some really nice things you can do with Genealogy's search tools. For instance, In the census collection, if I'm looking for the name Crabb, I can go directly to the part of the list for that name and scan for variants w/o having to enter 6 different spellings. They also have a tree search option which appears at the bottom of the search results pages. This allows you to enter several related individuals at one time, in a tree structure, and then search for all the individuals on said tree. Sometimes this one works when nothing else will. In any event, those of you looking for help should take note that the more relationships and dates you provide the better my chances of getting relevant data for you.
In addition to the above I have the following US census indexes on CD:
1840--all;
1850--DE, DC, MD, NJ, PA;
1860-DE, DC, MD, NJ, PA;
1870--Baltimore, Chicago & St. Louis
1880--selected counties in 14 states plus the complete LDS census index;
1920--Chicago.
I also have:
Historic Profiles: Chicago
Immigrants to the New World, 1600s-1800s
IL Vital Records: Marriages 1791-1900
English Parish Records: General
The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633
City Directories Northern Midwest 1884-1898 Selected Cities (in MN and WI) and Years
Chicago & Cook County A Guide to Research (book)
Genealogy Online for Dummies (book)
Dating Old Photographs 1840-1929 (book)
So what can I do for you in general? Primarily US census look-ups and family tree look-ups, with some limited capability in other areas such as births, deaths and marriages.
What can't I do? Generally, I won't get the best results on locality-specific questions (except Cook County and MD)--especially for Southern IL. However, there are others on this site who excel at answering such queries.
I'd like to add that before I retired, I spent almost 40 years as an analyst and researcher for
Uncle Sam, so I have well-honed research skills.
To those who are seeking help, please read and analyze this thoroughly so that you can have a better feel for my capabilities and short-falls.
In future I will be posting to this list a compendium of all the known (to me) for-fee on-line genealogy sites, as well as a compendium of all the on-line resources offered by our volunteers. I'll be looking to you to update/add to these.
Finally, like all of us, I have limited resources, and will not be able to respond to all the queries (or even most of them) posted to this site. However, since we are systematically attacking the posted brickwalls, you can expect to have your query investigated if you take the time to post on the Brickwalls list--and please use the posted format.
Cheers and Happy Holidays, Wayne J. Straight (aka Masugu)
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hi.. i am one of the newbies here, this could even be my first post. I signed on about a week ago and have been kind of busy, alktho I have been reading with interest the messages from this group. I must say I am very impressed here! :) Also i was curious on your review of subscriptions..I was looking for one I am almost in...i am on the guest freebie part of it but it does look to have some good potential for making matches for geneologists.. this is link:~ for the life of me I tried to enter my brother and sister on mine and IT wont let me...how can one build tree if it doesnt work? or is it a bug on my puter? I have a ?? in to the website..see they have special area to add siblings, i am there..BUT it will not let me DOUBLE CLICK (as instructions say) to add siblings...I have a ton i can add if it lets me...and IF it works for me i may even join as paid member... btw...I hail from the Des Plaines area..just transplanted back to wisconsin where it seems most of my grandfathers line are if i can find them... keep up the great work here!! and much congrats on the matches i read about! that is Waaaaay too cool!!! Jan |
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| | | From: Masugu | Sent: 1/14/2003 7:04 PM |
Jan;
OneGreatFamily is one of the Lineal sites I was gonna cover in the next
installment. I haven't done much looking at it yet but it has gotten
some bad press for having trees with the names of living persons on
it--a real right-to-privacy concern since it invites identity theft.
You may want to try Genealogy.com's family tree maker-- I believe its
still free. Once you've down-loaded the results to GEDCOM format you
should be able to export to almost any tree software you choose. One
proviso though--make 2 versions of your tree; one with living members
which you should load to CD and keep to yourself, and a 2nd with only
those family members who are known to be deceased--this one you can
share with the world. Trust me you don't want to post a tree with your
living siblings' names on OneGreatFamily (or any other site for that
matter).
Cheers, Masugu
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| | | From: Masugu | Sent: 1/14/2003 7:16 PM |
Hi Folks;
I got yet another personal e-mail from an IKKer in re MyTrees.com. It shows another side of this particular beast--not one that I find particularly nice. Masugu
"Masugu,
I thought I would try my trees. I found the sight ok but could not prove any matches without paying or down loading my files. When I got home the following was in my e-mail thought you would enjoy it."
Dear (name removed):
We would like to extend to you and your family
our warmest wishes.
We would also like to extend to you a FREE OFFER.
When you share your genealogy research successes
with your friends and family, you can receive
FREE access time in the research center. Here is
how it works. Just touch the hotlink listed (below)
and compose a personalized e-mail to your friends
and family. Tell them about your own research
successes. If they try our site and signup with a
paid subscription, your private account will
automatically be credited with free access time.
One example might be: touch the web page (below)
and e-mail five friends. If three of your friends
signup and pay, you will automatically receive
free time in your account equal to the 10 days
or one month of free time, depending on which
options they purchased. There is no limit to the
number of friends or the amount of FREE time you
can automatically receive.
A nice gift for you when you share a gift with
a friend.
http://www.mytrees.com/cgi-bin/genealogy/new/share?313525+English+
Sincerely,
The MyTrees.com Management
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| | | From: Masugu | Sent: 1/14/2003 11:16 PM |
Hi Folks;
While we're on the subject of MyTrees.com, as I said earlier I ran my g-g-grandad's name as a test and got 2 results which I couldn't of course read. Since the Jaaks are one of my lesser brickwalls I'd like to ask one of you IKKers who currently has access to MyTrees to run the following name and tell me what the results are--I know that one will be his mariage license ro magdalena Loma. Thanks, Masugu
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 1/15/2003 1:38 PM |
Dear Group, I would like to comment on some of these genealogy sites. Often you are invited to one by an email sent to your address with a recommendation from someone you don't know but not sure if you ran into them somewhere on the net, or not. BEWARE....many are scams, and this is a spam. They want your credit card number before they let you take a free peek, then they don't let you into their site. Or they let you in, but it is merely a copy of the things you can find for free with a little hunting. I know, I was scammed. I should have known better because a friendly e-mail to the fellow who recommended me was undeliverable. I also should have scouted around a little. One such site is the Family Discovery site. They rope people in and when the complaints start, change their name and pursue, not only new people, but also the ones they scammed previously. I invested 79.99 in this company, or one like it. But learned to do my own work, which always comes through. I know I keep harping about Google...but it proves invaluable to me time and time again. I use it dozens of times a week, if not a day. If you are in doubt of a Internet Genealogy site, go to Google.com, type in the name and 'scam,' 'complaints,' or some other words that will help you find information. There are genealogy watchdogs, and I think Rootsweb has one. IF YOU DON'T READ ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS SUBJECT, PLEASE GO TO THE FOLLOWING; Here are some more sites that helps you decide; here are some comments I picked up by using Google True to their history, Family Discovery was getting "heat" for their business (mis) practices and have now jumped to Prodigy and are also using PayPal (info from the Belgium list). Their last server is thought to have dumped them after receiving numerous spam complaints. This company is thought to go to Gen sites of all kinds and pick the e-mail address off them to use for spam mailings of the $49.00 "service". In their spam, they say that another Gen site has suggested that they contact the recipient, when the original gen site does not even know it has been used for the addresses. Please consider encoding the e-mail addresses on sites into the name so they can not be easily picked off the pages. It means an extra "click" for visitors but the spammer's programs only "see" a name and no addresses to pick up. Here is the latest followed by a summery of recent events for anyone who wants a quick update on the matter. It looks like the fictitious Family Discovery genealogy service has moved to Prodigy now. I contacted Prodigy this morning and they have asked that anyone who receives solicitation email from familydiscovery.com to take the following steps immediately: 1) Forward the entire Family Discovery message to: [email protected]2) Include the following information (most of which was provided by Rita from the Oconto County, WI list): Please note that the attached message is now being sent through your ISP service. They have been reported to various State Attorney General's Office on computer fraud, but it is hard to catch up with them. Originally the "company" linked to free information sites and placed the pages in "frames" so that it looked like it was their own work. Customers paid for that information. The scam, now, is paying for the free information links and then they "move" frequently and leave their paid-up customers without services. 3) Post these same instructions on any other lists today so that Prodigy has a better chance of finding the spammers. Bob |
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 1/15/2003 2:04 PM |
Jan, Not sure, but it looks like Onegreatfamily.com is a child of Ancestry.com, so is legit. It may just need to get some bugs ironed out. Your best bet was what you did, ask them. Melody |
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| | | From: gramaru | Sent: 1/16/2003 3:19 AM |
Masugu, I belong to MyTrees, only because when we had WebTV, I had no way of saving my genealogy information, and they offered a free place to put it! I have also received many hours of free access to the data by transcribing source documents which they supplied online. However, I am NOT impressed by their claims to have such great info, as I have seen little evidence of it. Your Mr. and Mrs. Jaaks' entries were merely stated their marriage, and their ages (based on the marriage information). All submitters in the following starting with "il" are from an Illinois marriage database of some sort, probably transcribed from the Archives. I did a search using your alternate spellings of Jaaks, Iaaks, Jaacks and Gaaks and these are the names which came up. If I can be of any further help with looking these up in the MyTrees database, just let me know. Ruth | Father: | HERMANN H JAAKS | | Birth/Chris: | SEENOTES 1852 | | | | | Mother: | MAGDALENA LOMAN | | Birth/Chris: | SEENOTES 1856 | | | | | Married: | 27 Feb 1877 COOK, Illinois | | Sealed: | | Children: Notes: SOURCE: Illinois marriage returns, licenses, and records: 1763-1900. STATE LICENSE CODES: / 00029493 | Name: | HERMANN H JAAKS | | Sex: | Male | | | | | Birth: | SEENOTES 1852 | | Christening: | | | Death: | | | Burial: | | | | | | Baptism: | | | Endowment: | | | Sealed to Parents: | | Spouses: 1.X LOMAN, MAGDALENA- born: SEENOTES 1856 @ Notes: BIRTH DATE: Estimated from (estimated) age at marriage. SOURCE: Illinois marriage returns, licenses, and records: 1763-1900. | Name: | MAGDALENA LOMAN | | Sex: | Female | | | | | Birth: | SEENOTES 1856 | | Christening: | | | Death: | | | Burial: | | | | | | Baptism: | | | Endowment: | | | Sealed to Parents: | | Spouses: 1.X JAAKS, HERMANN H - born: SEENOTES 1852 @ Notes: BIRTH DATE: Estimated from (estimated) age at marriage. SOURCE: Illinois marriage returns, licenses, and records: 1763-1900. *********************************************************************** | Father: | HANS ELLERBROOK | | Birth/Chris: | SEENOTES 1858 | | | | | Mother: | DORIS JAAKS | | Birth/Chris: | SEENOTES 1862 | | | | | Married: | 18 Mar 1883 COOK, Illinois | | Sealed: | | Children: Notes: SOURCE: Illinois marriage returns, licenses, and records: 1763-1900. STATE LICENSE CODES: / 00069754 *********************************************************************** | Father: | EHLER KATH | | Birth/Chris: | SEENOTES 1862 | | | | | Mother: | FRIEDERICKE JAAKS | | Birth/Chris: | SEENOTES 1866 | | | | | Married: | 29 Dec 1887 COOK, Illinois | | Sealed: | | Children: Notes: SOURCE: Illinois marriage returns, licenses, and records: 1763-1900. STATE LICENSE CODES: / 00122217 *********************************************************************** | Father: | FRIEDRICH BUTHMANN | | Birth/Chris: | SEENOTES 1867 | | | | | Mother: | LIZZIE JAAKS | | Birth/Chris: | SEENOTES 1871 | | | | | Married: | 20 Mar 1892 COOK, Illinois | | Sealed: | | Children: Notes: SOURCE: Illinois marriage returns, licenses, and records: 1763-1900. STATE LICENSE CODES: / 00180703 *********************************************************************** | 1. JAACKS, BURDELL H - Married: , Spouse: PAULEY, VIRGINIA View pedigree st001310 Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 54% completed fields, limited documentation. View pedigree hu000094 Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 51% completed fields, moderate documentation. View pedigree hu000331 Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 50% completed fields, exceptional documentation. 2. JAACKS, BURDELL H - Born: View pedigree st001310 Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 54% completed fields, limited documentation. View pedigree hu000094 Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 51% completed fields, moderate documentation. View pedigree hu000331 Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 50% completed fields, exceptional documentation. | | | | 3. JAACKS, DAVID P - Born: , Father: JAACKS, BURDELL, Mother: PAULEY, VIRGINIA View pedigree hu000331 Data Quality: 23 generations, 186 ancestors, 50% completed fields, exceptional documentation. View pedigree hu000094 Data Quality: 10 generations, 69 ancestors, 51% completed fields, moderate documentation. View pedigree st001310 Data Quality: 9 generations, 38 ancestors, 54% completed fields, limited documentation. | | 4. JAACKS, DEAN - Married: , Spouse: HOFFMANN, KATHLEEN View pedigree ar000219 Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 51% completed fields, exceptional documentation.  Delete: 5. JAACKS, DEAN - Born: View pedigree ar000219 Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 51% completed fields, exceptional documentation. | | 6. JAACKS, HEIDI L - Married: , Spouse: HERNDON, ELLIOTT View pedigree st001310Data Quality: 9 generations, 38 ancestors, 54% completed fields, limited documentation. 7. JAACKS, HEIDI L - Married: , Spouse: HERNDON, ELLIOT View pedigree hu000331 Data Quality: 23 generations, 186 ancestors, 50% completed fields, exceptional documentation. View pedigree hu000094 Data Quality: 10 generations, 69 ancestors, 51% completed fields, moderate documentation. 8. JAACKS, HEIDI L - Born: , Father: JAACKS, BURDELL, Mother: PAULEY, VIRGINIA View pedigree hu000331 Data Quality: 23 generations, 186 ancestors, 50% completed fields, exceptional documentation. View pedigree hu000094 Data Quality: 10 generations, 69 ancestors, 51% completed fields, moderate documentation. View pedigree st001310 Data Quality: 9 generations, 38 ancestors, 54% completed fields, limited documentation. | | 9. JAACKS, HENRICH - Born: 1850 View pedigree il000046 Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 62% completed fields, exceptional documentation. | | 10. JAACKS, HENRICH - Married: 1875, Spouse: HARDER, MINNA View pedigree il000046 - Married: ILLINOIS Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 62% completed fields, exceptional documentation. | | 11. JAACKS, JOHN - Born: 1863 View pedigree il000046 Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 62% completed fields, exceptional documentation | | 12. JAACKS, JOHN - Married: 1888, Spouse: GREIVE, SOPHIE View pedigree il000046 - Married: ILLINOIS Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 62% completed fields, exceptional documentation. | | 13. JAACKS, MARILYN K - Married: , Spouse: DUKE, DANNY View pedigree sh000346 Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 54% completed fields, exceptional documentation. View pedigree shondel1 Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 52% completed fields, moderate documentation. View pedigree johnsto5 Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 51% completed fields, moderate documentation. 14. JAACKS, MARILYN K - Born: View pedigree sh000346 Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 54% completed fields, exceptional documentation. View pedigree shondel1 Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 52% completed fields, moderate documentation. View pedigree johnsto5 Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 51% completed fields, moderate documentation. | | 15. JAACKS, MATTIE - Born: 1884 View pedigree wermers1 - Born: IA Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 54% completed fields, good documentation. View pedigree wermers2 - Born: IA Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 44% completed fields, good documentation. | | 16. JAACKS, RUTH - Married: , Spouse: WRIGHT, WALTER View pedigree florke1Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 58% completed fields, no documentation. 17. JAACKS, RUTH - Born: View pedigree florke1 Data Quality: 0 generations, 0 ancestors, 58% completed fields, no documentation. | | 18. JAACKS, THEODORE - Married: 1878, Spouse: JOHN, ANNA View pedigree beckfamilies.com | | 19. JAACKS, THEODORE - Born: View pedigree beckfamilies.com <http://63.169.143.2/cgi-bin/genealogy/frameit?170349+1042685870+N2811+English> | |
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| | | From: gramaru | Sent: 1/16/2003 4:02 AM |
These are the databases that are listed for MyTrees. When I tried to open the "Source Document" list, there was a search box, implying that it was a U.S. Census search. The information is copied and pasted directly from the site. Ruth The following databases are included in the Special Collections: <DIR> <DIR> Burlington Massuchusetts Birth and Baptism Records Dallas County Alabama Marriage Records, Book I: 1818 - 1845 Ontario, Canada Cemetery Finding Index, Release 02 (08/93) Toronto & Home District (York & Simcoe Counties) Canada, Cemetery Index The Registers of the Church of St. Mary, Dymock 1538-1790 Essex Massachusetts Birth and Baptism Records CORNISH MINING INDEX, Cornwall England, Published 27 Aug, 1995 Royal Navy - Ships and Officers in Service in 1894, UK England Royal Navy - OBITUARIES 1982-1989, UK England North Carolina Marriage Records New Zealand, UK, Australia Marriages records for surname WILDY New Zealand Marriage Witness Index RHODES SCHOLARSHIPS New Zealand Scholars 1904-1982 KAIWARRA Pupils School Roll, Wellington England South Carolina Marriage Records WHO's WHO IN THE THEATER, The Green Room Book, Printed 1930 Canadian Airman, British Flying Service of World War I, From 1914 to 1919 </DIR></DIR> Census Desk <DIR> <DIR> <DIR> 1851 UK Census - Search approximately 3 percent of the 1851 UK census. 1871 Canadian Census - Search the 1871 Canadian heads of household census. </DIR></DIR></DIR> We have fully indexed a collection of imaged family group records of pioneers that immigrated to the West from numerous countries, such as Germany, England, and the Scandinavian countries. We are currently extracting the 1880 US Census Soundex cards |
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| | | From: Masugu | Sent: 1/16/2003 4:17 AM |
Thanks Ruth;
It scratches an itch--I'm glad I didn't spend any money on them. The
data they had, as I figured, was based solely on his marriage license--a
copy of which I have. They couldn't even do the math correctly.
According to his wedding license he was 21 in Jan 1877--unless I'm going
down-hill faster than I thought that yields a date of 1856 vice 1852.
Also, they were married on 21 Jan 1877 not 27 Feb 1877--that doesn't
speak wwell to the quality of their info. FamilySearch also has the
marriage data although they've rendered his surname as "Iaaks". I've
seen many of the other individuals you found listed elsewhere.
The Jaacks spelling is a far more common one but he and his immediate
family seemed to stick with Jaaks (although I think he had a relative
named August Jaacks who ran a grocery business at the same location as
Hermann's saloon). I've seen several family trees which have both Jaaks'
and Jaacks' and suspect that different members of the same family picked
the way they spelled it, much in the way my father's ancestors did with
Straight and Strait.
In any event, both spellings are German vice the French Jacques, Czech
Jakes, etc.. The only place that I've consistently found the Jaaks
spelling in historic times is Iowa although it also appears in Michigan,
Indiana and Prussia (Hamburg, Mecklinburg-Schwerin and
Schleswig-Holstein). I can also find contemporary Jaaks' on the web but
I haven't been able to locate any passenger list info on him or nail
down exactly where he was born or who his parents were. Magdalena is
just as much a mystery att but I have a few more possibilities in re her
progenitors.
Thanks for the effort, it was kind of you, and I'll keep your offer in
mind. Cheers, Masugu
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| | | From: Masugu | Sent: 1/16/2003 4:29 AM |
Thanks Ruth--you're a gem. ;^) Masugu
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 1/16/2003 1:13 PM |
Masugu, Often from the submissions of others you will see dates off like you see with your Jaaks. This helps the original compilers to spot their work in order to see who is taking their submissions and using it as their own. They have their codes, such as add a month and a day to the year, or subtract a month and add a day; something that they can recognize as their own doing. Some say it is unethical to intentionally mislead facts...but they feel helpless against those who will not do the work, just collect the work of others. It looks to me that this is the case with Mytrees...they have either collected someone's work who has marked it as their own, or have done so themselves to identify what they put up. When I was new to this, I shared information, reluctant to actually get it up on the internet, and unaware that others would do so. One time I was so excited to learn that more of my information was available at Rootsweb and Ancestry....shocked to find my work posted, identified by my mother-in-law's 9 marriages and my brother-in-law's mental illness, and my own notes, word for word; just copied and pasted. Needless to say, I avoid all this by seldom sharing my work [no need for codes]. But if it wasn't for others sharing, it would be slower going finding leads...and that is what most of this stuff is. Melody |
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| | | From: Masugu | Sent: 1/16/2003 3:10 PM |
Thanks Melody;
I hadn't heard of that particular wrinkle before. But if this is the case
it really muddies the waters and compounds all the errors, omissions, mistypes, misprints
and fibs that are already out there. I'm having enough trouble finding info on the Jaaks, Lomans, Windts and Hendricksons w/o stuff like that.
As for posting, I intend to eventually post my family tree but w/o any living
family members listed. Once its out there I don't care who picks it up. In
fact, I'm hoping someone who's related to me will pick it up, and
add to it. So far I haven't found anyone who's actively searching my maternal
family's roots and that's a bit discouraging. Its been so rewarding to find
long-lost cousins in my dad's family and I was hoping I'd be able to repeat
that experience with my mom's side.
Cheers, Wayne
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| | | From: Masugu | Sent: 1/30/2003 12:14 AM |
Hey Guys;
I don't know whether I've just been out-to-lunch or if this represents a real find but I found that the "NA Film Numbers" in Family Search equate to the Roll #s for the Census and that the Page #s equate directly to the printed (not the hand-written) numbers on each census page. This means that if you have on-line census access (i.e., Ancestry.com or Genealogy.com) you can use these metatdata to find the exact page in the census images that you want to peruse, thus providing ED, address and other info not available in the LDS index. One word of warning the page number addendum (i.e., a, b, etc., doesn't always match what is listed so you may have to play with it a bit to get to the correct page. Cheers, Masugu |
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Masugu, Can you tell me where to find marriage information in Illinois after 1900? Do you know if Molly Kennedy can get this type of information too? Thanks again, you seem to really have a handle on this stuff and I always appreciate your input. Regards, Andrea |
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| | | From: Masugu | Sent: 7/12/2003 5:52 PM |
Hi Andrea;
You can try some of the following links--no promises though.
www.allvitalrecords.com/index.asp?state=IL
www.accessgenealogy.com/illinois/
www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/marriages/illinois/illinois.htm
www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/marriage.html
www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/fink.html
Also, do a search for the particular county or counties in which your ancestors resided. For example, looking for records on Cook County, I would use the advance search option in Google to search for "Cook County" as a phrase; illinois and society as required terms (AND in Boolean logic); genealogical and historical as alternative terms (OR in Boolean logic). Likewise you'd want to search on "Cook County" and clerk, marriage, etc. Genweb for the particular county is also a good bet as is your local Family History Center (run by the LDS its usually situated in a Mormon Chruch). Cheers, Wayne
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