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From: MSN Nicknamehope20000  (Original Message)Sent: 9/14/2007 3:58 PM
Any reading would be appreciated.  thank you


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From: MSN NicknameMara-or-M-Sent: 9/15/2007 4:12 PM
k, here is what I got for ya hope.........this quote......

“Be the change you want to see in the world.�?Mahatma Gandhi

 

There is more to this story than has been shared........some of what you may not conciously be aware of......remember way back when, I tried to connect.....all I got was that help was closer than you think........that is still true.......you are looking for your assistance in this matter too far from home......there may be changes needed closer to home.......you will never be able to change this man......that is up to him......hope this helps hope........M~


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From: MSN Nicknamehope20000Sent: 9/16/2007 6:24 PM
No one will change him except possibly himself.
 
I don't even speak to him or have contact with him per his choice and court order he had made.  I have never done anything against him or anyone but he knows I support my daughter and granddaughter and I know the cruel things he has done.  Also, he has tried to get the court to keep me from my daughter and granddaughter.  He stated it was because of my health and when that didn't work he said he thought I did not like him.  Well, that's fine--the courts just said not to participate in the exchanges etc  so I don't.  The few times I have seen him like the kindergarden graduation, soccer games we've been civil like strangers. 
 
The fact you get the message that help is closer than we think means that help is there and that gives hope.
 
There is nothing I can do that I can think of except what we are doing.  i continue trying to work for all abused children and work with the legislators etc for laws to be passed.  We give lots of love to the child.
 
I have a strong feeling things will change and it might be the child herself feeling comfortable enough to confide in her teacher.  We cannot tell the teacher or anyone the finding from child protection or what the father has done as the courts have made that to not be an option.  this is very scary as the school took pictures of the children and made little books for all and they included the children's pictures, name, addresses, birthdates and phone numbers.  that means the pedophile has that information on the entire class of 6 year old.  I think that with awareness of such things today as child predators around, no school would have done such a thing but they did. Naive I suppose but really not to bright.  Parents were not even asked if the information was ok to give out.  Our address though is kept from it and court order states the father cannot have it and that was addressed prior to school beginning.
 
We are pretty sure he knows where we live but he isn't supposed to.  It really is hard to keep that totally secret.  We don't live in a vacuum. 
 
Thank you for your response. 
 
He just married 3 weeks ago the women he's lived with for 3 years and they've been fighting a lot.  that's nothing new--he's knocked her down and caused her head to bleed last year and she's had a few other injuries.  Maybe the help will be that she turns him in for soemthing.  I know that she would not do so to protect the child as she knows what takes palce and has been his attorney's paralegel from the beginning and has lied in court for him.  Still she could turn him in for something else.
 
Thank you

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From: MSN Nicknamehope20000Sent: 9/17/2007 5:55 PM
Mara, 
 
Yes, there is more to this situation than has been told here.  That is because the laws do not allow when to go forward with child abuse cases and to do so if found out the child would be forced to be with this pedophile father 100% of the time.  As bad as it is, 50% is not as bad as 100%.
 
I do not expect anything from anyone.  i did expect the law would protect her but have found out that children are not protected.
 
I do ask for prayers or positive vibes from strangers and I do seek any information that one might get from the spirit world to help sustain us.
 
My family is living a life of tortue--caused by this pedophile and the corrupt system which continues to allow it and in fact help to perpetuate it.
 
If people think I am lying, that is there right and nothing I say or do will change that. 
 
I do appreciate anyone sending positive messages to us or whatever one does.
 
I know it is easy to think that we have overlooked things but we have not.  I have been a child advocate for over 20 years and I have volunteered on my governor's task force on child abuse, been a foster parent and a CASA volunteer.  Until my granddaughter discloused the terror he was putting her through, we just thought he was not the best father and than we found out the horrible truth. 
 
She is in his custody until wed and his wife is also very damaging.  Over the weekend, my precious little granddaughter had dropped some cookie dough and for over 20 minutes, she was sobbing that she was a bad girl.  She has never been scolded for dropping or spilling anything here and has never been called names.  However, at her father's she is ridiculed and made to feel she doesn't deserve to live. 
They are not fit to have her but the courts do not care.
 
In am fighting the laws and supposedly 2 Congressmen have agree to help but we will see. I cannot have a bill entered without a congress person's help and even than to get a law made is so hard.  I will not stop though.  I am also working of Federal legislation.  Something has to be done.  Children are being destroyed.
 
I am sorry to come across as impatient but I am desperate to hear something good.  I know that noone really has the answers and that spirits can give wrong messages.  I
am hoping that my deceased parent will give a message mto someone for me.  Something that someday my granddaughter will be ok.  It might even be too late.  Hearing her sobbing so deep within was heartwrenching.
 
thank you, I know no one can respond without knowing all the facts.  Thank you

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