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From: MSN NicknameTinselCathedral  (Original Message)Sent: 8/1/2007 4:02 AM
Okay a reeeeallly crappy health day but that's not what I need to vent about. I apologize in advance for how long it takes me in this post to get to what I'm really frustrated about.  If you read thru all this you get a medal for perseverance!  Here goes.....
 
First off, to explain...I am a survivor of abuse, pretty awful stuff that I probably shouldn't go into here in any details whatsoever.  Not just emotional/physical abuse but sexual and ritual abuse too.   I'm doing the best I can in healing from all of it of course.  However there was an awful situation late last year at a sexual survivor site I am a Moderator on, in which I wasn't sufficiently warned, by other Mods who knew, about the dangers posed by a cult survivor on the site.  So far as I knew their cult abuse issues were all in their past and they were striving to heal from them which I could help with.  Well unbeknownst to me they were still IN a cult current day, which I did not know about!  That is incredibly dangerous not just for them but for me as I could have been pulled back into a cult myself...(due to programming signals that could have been transmitted to me).  Though I got clear of that situation  and got them banned from the survivor site in the process, thereby protecting alot of other members, nobody else was doing SPIT about it!     Members were screaming at other Mods(I found out later) to get me out of that situation and nobody told me a d*mn thing.  GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.  
 
 Well, as you can imagine, that situation roiled up a bunch of stuff from my own past plus creating issues of trusting the Mods on that site in the future.  The only one who can protect me is me.  Trust noone basically.  They were supposed to watch my back, keep me in the loop and didn't. They withheld vital need-to-know facts that could have protected me a lot. 
 
Several members were furious at the other Mods on my behalf because the Mods clearly didn't take the dangers to me seriously enough and did not warn me about current day goings on that I desperately needed to know about and didn't.   Well, while those members, true friends of mine, were ready to take on the Mods in a knock down drag out, I didn't want a fight over it all so I said 'leave it'. 
 
At that point, after such a narrow escape the last thing I needed was a nuclear meltdown on the site, and tons more stress.   And it was probably the right call.  The people who withheld info swear of course they did not, while I have proof they did (from other members who were worried about me getting in over my head, which I was but didn't know of bcs. of withheld info--it was a horribly close call that I did get out unscathed, yes, even over the internet).   Yeesh.   Nice for my supposed comrades in arms, my fellow Mods, to have selective amnesia huh??? 
 
Anyways, I thought I'd pretty much recovered from all that by now but within the past 2 weeks a new member to the survivor site has talked of and brought up so many similarities to the situations of that dangerous member last year, too many parallels by half, that I am being 'triggered' (alarmed,panicked) all over the place.   It well may not be the same person, we do have ways to track computer locations and find that out....however it has unsettled me enough that I cannot deal with that person in any way shape or form even though they only write in the area I am supposed to be moderating and it's my job to deal with them!  Go figure. There's supposed to be 3 of us working there and I'm the only one able to right now.  Argh.  Well I've refused to work with them.  Which forces other Mods to step in and monitor them.  Frankly....GOOD!
 
Anyways what bothers me most is not that they're on my forum area...if I see more current danger I will just turn and walk away if I have to, no warning, just leave.  If I had to, truthfully,  I'd drop the entire site, even after having been there over 10 years I'll just walk. I don't want to, I have many friends there and many people who trust me and rely on me and even look up to me. (crikey
 
No, the frustration right now is that I am a plain member, not a Mod, on another survivor site, with people I know and trust....but wouldn't you just KNOW it, also on that site is someone who is a Mod from the site I'm a Mod at....so I feel soooooooo limited in what I can say and talk about over there because they are there also and have issues left over from last year's situation I am sure.  In fact they were one of the ones most adamant that no facts were withheld from me.  Utter BS!   ARGH. 
 
So it's the lack of freedom to talk that is driving me bats currently.  I do appreciate just having somewhere to come and vent about that.  I really do appreciate it guys even though I haven't given you many details, which I think is for the best.  Thanks.

Tinsel
 
My incredibly slow healing leg and foot, which gives me no warnings whatsoever when it's had enough until it suddenly packs in, is also frustrating the bleep out of me, so is the CFS, I am doing SPIT day to day...no hobbies, so yeah I'm frustrated on that too.  But this is the big frustration right now.  Hubby isn't somebody I can talk to, so thanks for letting me blow abit.


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From: MSN Nickname1_RISI_JSent: 8/1/2007 7:11 AM
WOW TIN... sounds like a real sticky situation....but i know how easy it is to go back where you have been.....not wanting to but so easy not even knowing its happening unless you are really tuned into life.....i have to watch my depression.....being a lone is what triggers mine this i know......i guess you have to find the trigger points there too and walk away....run if you have to.....after i married my second hubby i never thought i would have to deal with major depression again but it got worse when he died.....completely wrecked me for awhile....so just be careful with your situation....i know you want to help but your sanity comes first.....
 
oh by the way.....can you use a little larger type...we ask everyone if they will use at least a 4....the letters seem to be getting smaller all the time.....cant be our eyes can it??????....lol didn't think so.....if you will it will really help....thanks Sassy

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From: MSN NicknameTinselCathedralSent: 8/1/2007 5:26 PM
Yes, sorry I forgot about the font size until after I posted it.  I wanted to go back and modify the post (enlarge the type) but there isn't a way to do that, is there?
 
TC

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From: MSN NicknameGA___PEACH1Sent: 8/1/2007 5:50 PM
YES TIN...
 
TO LARGE THE PRINT U CAN PRINT IN CAPS OR CLICK THE FRONT SIZE. WHICH  IS JUST ABOVE THE SMILE FACE.
 
 
 
 
JAN..

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From: MSN NicknameKathleen1137Sent: 8/8/2007 5:03 PM
hi tin
if its ok ill be preying for you first and for most if its ok with you,you made my situation look peachy,aww im so sorry im was a abuse sexual/phsy survier also  i can only imation what you might be going through.( i don,t want to preach im not a perfect christain by any means,but if u can fine a foursquare church they shoulds have a suport group and  a know of a safe house for you first you have to try and get to a safe place so your not in danger,)your town should have a safe house)i hope this will be of some sorse of help and comfert to you,know that your not alone.ill be preying for you today gental hugs kat

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From: MSN NicknameCYLENE5523Sent: 8/8/2007 7:40 PM
Tinsel, honey, my heart is aching for you.  I am not real clear about this cult and abuse from that.  No matter how long you have been in this forum, you should never take crap from anyone, especially if it is bringing too much back to you from before.  You should not be pushed back into the past.  The only solution about the place you moderate would be create your own place and take the members who are close to you and you trust with you.  I think you will be much happier and secure with that.  It was good to see you being able to vent honey.  Anytime you want to just come on it and let it out.
            

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From: MSN NicknameTinselCathedralSent: 8/13/2007 10:03 PM
Hi everyone.  Things are quiet right now and thankfully other survivors listened to me and on the original site the offending member who was triggering me is now banned, much to the rejoicing of many of us.   (I wasn't the only one scared/upset by her)
 
I am safe in my home town Kat, no imminent danger IRL(in real life).  I just don't want to ever risk coming up on anybody's radar at all who's involved in that heinous evil stuff.  They love finding ex-members and hauling them back in again! (they can do that to a sane rational human being because most of us who were 'let go' to grow up for future harvesting as adult participants were programmed to return to the group when members used secret code words or colours around us--I escaped by emmigration before most of it could be set in but some I remember)
 
I do not think the original group that had me has a clue where I am now nor cares unless I were to endanger/expose them.  Don't worry Kat, I'm okay here.  But thanks very much for all the info.  I will remember, and thanks for the prayers.  I do believe they help.  I use them alot myself.
 
Jan my problem always is that I forget to change up the font size when I write the message. I see nowhere that I can change the font AFTER I have posted the message. It seems to be too late then.  That was my problem, sorry if that wasn't clear.  This time I remembered to up the font size...TA DA!
 
I agree Cylene that I have to put up protective boundaries which I find hard to do, trying to help everyone and myself last which is NOT a good idea.  Yeeesh.  Okay to help you understand I will below say a little about the group I visited, no gory details.  Even so, read carefully.  I will be as mundane as I can.
 
So far as a few details Cylene, to help you get what I mean....Um I could briefly say that when I used to visit him, a rich relative took me to a group of men (I use the term loosely) who used dog fighting and betting as a front for other activities. I won't even say the name of the 'club', but I remember it. There were all levels of men from bankers and judges down to cops, doctors and common thieves and some murderers in that group.  Each was useful in real life to keep them all secret and protected, and doctors patched up the injured if things went too far and they needed that one to live.
 
Basically....sigh okay.....I survived what many I saw did not. (life is still cheap even today, particularly if you come from poor neglected areas, 25,000 people disappear in Britain every year without a trace, never mind other countries) My this is cheerful!
 
Okay, I don't want to put any images in your minds whatsoever...how to say without saying...um okay....I've seen torture, animal and human, murder, ritual sacrifice and bestiality and other things.  Very up close.
 
Understandably alot of my current day phobias relate to what they did and how they got rid of bodies (if I say what the phobias are you'll clue in on that so I won't).  My being related to a rich powerful man kept me alive...though at the time I did not know it.  I fully believed them when they said they'd kill me if I ever told.  I still believe that to this day  truthfully.  Hence I give no places, names or dates...thankfully I don't really know much.  I was young and that protected me from knowing.  It was all kept hyper secret anyways.  I have no clue how I got there for starters, being covered up enroute(bound).
 
Well.....I think that's more details than anybody wants or needs to know, probably.  Even saying just these bare outlines brings up sadness for what they did and what they put kids and animals through, and I admit there's some worry that even this briefly I've said too much.  But truthfully those fiends aren't even in this country and most are probably dead by now though I have no doubt their successors continue their 'work', besides these groups work worldwide so my guard is always up.
 
Anyhow if I have offended anyone I apologize.  I know it sounds beyond belief but any details will give you images you just don't want. (I don't want them either) Other RSA survivors I can talk candidly to as they need to know they're not nuts, or alone in this and that I went through similar.  Understandably most people have no clue such monsters exist and maybe it's best they don't.  I sleep with the light on and a guard dog.  I can't seem to help it.
 
TC
 
Anyways no wonder I'm skittish about the whole thing and don't want to roil it back up again more than I can help.

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From: MSN NicknameTinselCathedralSent: 8/13/2007 10:12 PM
Um abit of religious talk, just warning in case that offends anyone----
 
I know what I should add that is important. Once, while grieving over some of the horrible things I'd seen done to children and animals, I was praying about it all to God and the message clearly came into my mind that now those children are happy and safe and so are the starved mistreated dogs and they even play together and are great friends, all being healed.  (yes I'm referring to in Heaven/the next life)
 
I needed to hear that, it is a very healing thought for me. I've also been given to know that those incredibly sick people are in biiiiiig trouble with You-Know-Who upstairs.  Recall the Bible verse about it would be better for any that offend my little ones that a millstone were placed about his neck and he were drowned in the depths of the sea?  I shudder to think what their punishments are and will be. Don't they realise what they're doing?!?!  I think now some of them do....

TC

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