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From: MSN Nickname©TreasuredTrisha  (Original Message)Sent: 7/15/2005 11:00 PM

sorry this was not posted last night for ahead of time there was a death and could not get online forgive me..


Day 14

PDL

When God Seems Distant

The Lord has hidden himself from his people,

but I trust him and place my hope in him

God is real no matter how you feel

it is easy to worship God when everything

in your life is going great

But when not always pleasant How do you worship?

Deepest level of worship is praising God in

spite of pain!!! Thanking God during a trial,

trusting him when tempted, surrendering while

suffering and loving him when he seems distant

friendship are often tested by separtation and

silence you are divided by pysical distance or

you are unable to talk in your friendship with

God you wont always feel close to HIM

to mature your friendship God will test it with

periods of seeming separtation

Besides Jesus God had closet friendship with David

There are times when he appears to be MIA

(Missing In Action) in your life

wake up one morning -

spiritual feeling gone -

you pray -

nothing happen

you rebuke the devil -

don't change anything -

go through spiritual exercise -

your friends pray -

you confess sins you imagine

then

go asking forgivenss of every one you know

you fast

still not feeling

Job did thiing

wonder how long spiritual glom

days? weeks? months?

will it ever end?

truth is there is nothing wrong with you

it is normal testing

every Christian goes through it at least

once and usually several times

yes he wants you to sense his presence but

he's more concerned that you trust him than

that you feel HIM Faith not feeling pleases God

Tell God exactly how you feel

pour out your heart to God,

unload every emotion that you're

Job said "I can't be quiet I am angry

and bitter I have to speak"

Job 7:11

he cried out when God seemed distant

"oh for the days when I was in my prime,

when God's intimate friendship

blessed my house "

Job 29:4

God can handle your

doubt

anger

fear

grief

confusion

question

admitting your hopelessness to God

can be a statement of faith

focus on who God is -

his unchaging nature regardless of circumstances

and how you feel hang on to God's unchanging

character remind yourself what you know to

be eternally true about God

He is Good

He loves me

He is with me

He knows what I am going through

He cares

He has a good plan for my life

V. Raymond Edman

' Never doubt in the dark what

God told you in the light'

When Jobs life fell apart &

God was silent Job still found

things he could praise God for:

that he is good and loving Job 10:12

that he is all powerful Job 42:2, 37 : 5, 23

that he notices every detail of my life Job 23:10, 31:4

that he has a plan for my life Job 23:14

that he will save me Job 19:25

Trust God to keep his promises

during dryness trust God's promises

not your emotions and realize he is

taking you to a deeper level of maturing

a friendship based of emotion is shallow in deed

remember what God has already done for you

If God never did another thing for you

the rest of your life He would still

deserve your continual praise for

the rest of your life because of what

Jesus did for you on the cross.

Day 14

Thinking about My Purpose

Point to ponder:

God is real, no matter how I feel

Verse to remeber:

"For God has said 'I will never leave you: I wil never abandon you'"

Hebrews 13:5

Question to Consider:

How can I stay focused on God's presence expecially when he feels distant?

purpose # 1 you were planned for God's pleasure - on to purpose # 2 great work you all



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From: MSN Nickname©TreasuredTrishaSent: 7/15/2005 11:00 PM

Day 14 write up

PDL

When God Seems Distant

The Lord has hidden himself from his people,

but I trust him and place my hope in him

I got to thinking about that ..

and I got to thinking....

I have hope in him but have to

admit when I don't feel him...

I feel alone... and when I feel

alone I search for other things

or other ppl when I should sit...

and wait on him and just stand

on his promises...

God is real no matter how you feel

it is true that feeling is not fact and

we need to realize that .. feeling is

not fact.... Thank God we can go on

facts from the Bible... and not on our

feelings

 

friendship are often tested by separtation and

silence you are divided by pysical distance or

you are unable to talk in your friendship with

God you wont always feel close to HIM

to mature your friendship God will test it with

periods of seeming separtation

Besides Jesus God had closet friendship with David

There are times when he appears to be MIA

(Missing In Action) in your life

I understood things more clear not just about God

being MIA but my friends in my life being MIA....

there is a test in everything.... that is sooo true...

and as with God we have sooo much to learn..from

distance... and ooooo how that is soo true... to know

that when we can run to him when he is right there..

is soo great.... but when he is not right there.. and we

feel soooo dry.... and we can stand on the promises...

that he may not be there.. but he is not far ... and he

is not out of our heart... and when we need him the

most... HE will be there... OOOOOO this is making

sooooo much more sense to me... and now I don't

have to go searching for ppl online... or going to

groups to make me feel like I have someone..

I still have God... He is still there... just like a

mother... who... leaves the room from a child...

to see if she / he will deal with things on his or / her

own.. knowing mommy is there stil to protect...

just to call on... yes there is temptation ...

and yes there is sooo much for that child to get in..

and oooo don't think that mommy is not watching ....

oooo she is .... but ... that child is going to discover

things on his/her own... and when they realize that...

they are alone.. they realize they can deal with things...

wow..... wow ... wow......

V. Raymond Edman

' Never doubt in the dark what

God told you in the light'

interesting ....

don't doubt what...

God tells you or what

He tells you ...

the LIGHT does not lie...

Trust God to keep his promises

during dryness trust God's promises

not your emotions and realize he is

taking you to a deeper level of maturing

a friendship based of emotion is shallow in deed

remember what God has already done for you

If God never did another thing for you

the rest of your life He would still

deserve your continual praise for

the rest of your life because of what

Jesus did for you on the cross.

I want this to be part of my saying

in my email now... that is such a

great saying wow... this is soo neat...

just the way it was said....

Day 14

Thinking about My Purpose

Point to ponder:

God is real, no matter how I feel

Verse to remeber:

"For God has said 'I will never leave you: I wil never abandon you'"

Hebrews 13:5

Question to Consider:

How can I stay focused on God's presence expecially when he feels distant?

well for one... when I feel he is distant...

go to Job... and see how Job handled it..

and David... and others.. as well... and wow...

think about all the ones in the bible did this..

there are soo many that said.. they felt...

a longing.... a distance and it is not cause

they did anything wrong... it is just cause

they needed to find out that they could rely

on the promise of God ... and just as they

I too need to rely on the promises of God...

and keep looking up for God... to keep

giving me what I need to do...

in his word and everything that

I do on a daily bases..

HIS Bible is our daily instructions...

purpose # 1 you were planned for God's pleasure - on to purpose # 2 great work you all


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From: MSN Nickname©TreasuredTrishaSent: 7/15/2005 11:01 PM
 
DAY 14
 
WHEN GOD SEEMS DISTANT
 
The Lord has hidden Himself from His people,
but I trust and place my hope in Him.  Isaiah 8:17 (TEV)
 
GOD IS REAL, NO MATTER HOW YOU FEEL.
 
It is easy to worship God when things go great in your life - family,
when He has provided food, money, friends and happy and healthy situations. How
do you worship God when circumstances are not pleasant?  What do you do
when God seems a million miles away?
 
I call on Him.  When He seems so distant, I beg for His help.
 
The deepest level of worship is praising God despite the pain, thanking God
during a trial, trusting Him when tempted, surrendering while suffering,
and loving Him when He seems distant.
 
Friendships are often tested by periods of seeming separation and silence;
you are divided by physical distance or you are unable to talk.  In your
friendship with God you won't always FEEL close to Him. 
 
To mature your friendship God will often test it with periods of seeming
separation - times when it feels as if He has abandoned you, or forgotten you.
St John of the Cross referred to these times as days of spiritual dryness,
doubt and estrangement from God as "the dark night of the soul".  Henri Nouwen
called them "the ministry of the night".  Others refer to "the winter of the heart".
 
Besides Jesus, David probably had the closest friendship with God of anyone.
God took pleasure in calling him "a man after my own heart".  yet David
frequently complained of God's absence:  " Lord, why are you standing aloof
and far away?  Why do you hide when I need you the most?  Why have you
forsaken me?  (words of Jesus when His Father turned His face from Him,
I believe His greatest agony) Why do you remain so distant?  Why do you
ignore my cries for help?  Why have you abandoned me?"  Psalm 43:2 (TEV )
psalms 44:23 (TEV) psalms 74:11 (TEV) 88:14 (Msg) 89:49 (LB).
 
Note from May:  well it is very late at night again so I will knock off here,
posting Parts 2 and even Part 3 tomorrow.  This is all I can do tonight.
 

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From: MSN Nickname©TreasuredTrishaSent: 7/15/2005 11:01 PM
 
DAY 14
 
WHEN GOD SEEMS DISTANT
 
PART 2
 
In fact God admits that sometimes He hides his face from us to test us. 
 
Of course God hadn't really left David and neither does He abandon us.
He said "I will never leave you or forsake you".  But God has not promised
that we will always feel His Presence.  There are times when He appears to
be MIA, missing in action in your life. 
 
"You wake up one morning and all your spiritual feelings are gone.  You pray,
but nothing happens.  You rebuke the devil but it doesnt change anything.
You go through spiritual exercises ... you have your friends pray for you ....
you confess every sin you can imagine, then go around asking forgiveness of
everyone you know.  You fast ........ still nothing.  You begin to wonder how
long this spiritual gloom might last.  Days?  Months?  Years?  Will it ever
end?  You feel your prayers bounce off the ceiling.  You cry out, "What is
the matter with me?"  The truth is there is nothing the matter with you.  God
allows this as a time of testing and maturing.  Every Christian goes through it
at least once, sometimes several times.  It is very painful and disconcerting
but is vital to the development of your faith and trust.  Job had faith "... when
he has tested me like gold in a fire He will pronounce me innocent".  Job 23:
8-10 (NLT)
 
When God feels distant from you, you may feel He is angry with you or
disciplining you for some sin.  In fact, sin does disconnect us from intimate
fellowship with God.  We grieve Gods Spirit and quench our fellowship with
Him by disobdience, conflict with others, BUSYNESS, friendship with the
world and other sins.  Psalm 51; Ephesians 4: 29-30; Thessalonians 5:19;
Jeremiah 2: 32; 1 Corinthians 8:12; James 4:4. 
 
But often this feeling of abandonment by God is a test of faith.  Will you
continue to love, trust, obey and worship Him even when you have no
sense of His Presence?  The most common mistake Christians make today
in worship is seeking an EXPERIENCE of God.  They look for a feeling and
if it happens, they conclude they have worshipped.  Seeking a feeling instead
of seeking God, even a closeness with Christ, is not worship. 
 
When you are a baby Christian God gives you a lot of confirming emotions
and even answers the most immature, self-centred prayers so you'll know
He exists.  But as you grow in faith He will wean you of these dependencies.
 
God's omnipresence and the manifestation of His Presence are 2 different things.
One is a fact; the other is often a feeling.  God is always present even when you
are unaware of Him, and His Presence is too profound to be measured by mere
emotion.  He's more concerned that you trust Him rather than that you feel Him.
Faith, not feelings please God. 
 
Tell God exactly how you feel.  Pour out your heart to Him, share every emotion.
God can handle your doubt, fear, despair, anger, grief, confusion and questions.
Did you know that admitting your hopelessness to God can be a statement of
faith? 
 
Focus on who God is - His unchanging nature.  "Never doubt in the dark what
God told you in the light".  V. Raymond Edman.  When Job's life fell apart,
he still praised God for:
 
That he is good and loving.  Job 10:12
That he is all-powerful.  Job 42:2; 37:5, 23.
That He notices every detail of my life.  Job 23:10; 31:4.
That He is in control.  Job 34:13.
That He has a plan for my life.  Job 23:14
That He will save me.  Job 19:25.
 
Trust God to keep His promises.  Trust Him that he is taking you to a deeper
level of maturity, and do not rely on your emotions.  A friendship based on
emotion is shallow indeed.
 
So dont be troubled by trouble.  Circumstances cannot change the character
of God.  Job remained faithful whilst in the midst of pain:  "God may kill
me but still I will trust Him"  Job 13: 15 (CEV)
 
(God may put me in hell but still will I love Him - Mercy May).
(There are worse things in life than death; there is where you spend your
eternal life.  Mercy May).
 
When you feel abandoned by God but continue to trust Him you worship Him
in the deepest way. 
 
Remember what God has already done for you.  If God never did anything
else for you, He would still deserve your continual praise for the sacrifice
of His Son.  God's Son died for you.  This is the greatest reason for worship.
 
Even before His crucifixion, the Son of God was stripped naked, beaten
until almost unrecognizable, whipped, scorned and mocked, crowned
with thorns and spat on contemptously.  Then nearly unconscious from
blood loss, He was forced to carry a cumbersome cross through the
streets and up a hill, was nailed to it, and left to die the most painful,
slow, excruciating death. Whilst He took upon Himself the sin of Mankind,
His Father looked away from the ugly sight of sin, surely Jesus worst
moment of the entire Passion,  "My God, my God, why have You forsaken
me?"  NO ONE EVER WHO HAS LIVED SUFFERED MORE THAN JESUS
CHRIST.  Jesus could have saved Himself but then He could not have
saved you.  Why did God allow this?  So you could be spared eternity in
hell and share His glory with Him in heaven.  Jesus gave up everything so
you could have everything.  He died so you could live forever.  That alone
is worthy of your continual thanks and praise.  Never again should you
wonder what you have to be thankful for.
 
I have a simple faith, almost child-like in my trust of God.  I choose to go
on loving, trusting and serving The Lord as best I can.  I can trust in
my eternal salvation, the blood of Jesus has wiped away my sins.  I must
trust God, and not the devil's condemnations.  Paul says live by the Spirit
not the Letter of the Law.  We obey and do not break the Law because
we walk in the Spirit.  "There is no condemnation for those in Christ".
God often removes our feelings so we wont depend on them.  Stay
focussed by studying.  It is appropriate to express anger to God when
you are honest with Him and say how you really feel. 
 
God bless you all.
 
Mercy May xoxo

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From: MSN Nickname©TreasuredTrishaSent: 7/15/2005 11:01 PM
 

40Days continues...

Day 14... When God Seems Distant

God is real, no matter how you feel. It is easy to worship God when things are going great in your life when he has provided food, friends, family, health, and happy situations. But circumstances are not always pleasant. How do you worship God then? What do you do when God seems a million miles away?

The deepest level of worship is praising God in spite of pain, thanking God during a trial, trusting him when tempted, surrendering while suffering, and loving him when he seems distant.

How do you praise God when you don't understand what's happening in your life and God is silent? How do you stay connected in a crisis without communication? How do you keep your eyes on Jesus when they're full of tears? You do what Job did: Then he fell to the ground in worship and said: 'Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked I will depart. The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away; may the name of the LORD be praised.

Tell God exactly how you feel. Focus on who God is his unchanging nature. Trust God to keep his promises. And remember what God has already done for you. Jesus gave up everything so you could have everything. He died so you could live forever. That alone is worthy of your continual thanks and praise. Never again should you wonder what you have to be thankful for


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