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General : How do you get the blind to SEE
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From: XtraMSN NicknameVera206  (Original Message)Sent: 18/08/2008 12:00 a.m.
How many have noticed on the news...esp. CNN, ore and more discussion regarding narcissism and ASPD. DO you think the John Q public is going to look up these words and really begin to see what it is all about. These kids ARE NOT normal teenagers.
How many Casey Anthonies are there in the world,,,in fact Casey Anthony reminds my exactly of my daughter and the girls she hangs around with.......I know Casey is no longer a teen, but she is pretty young.
It seems to me the people in the world who are genially good get screwed, over and over again...how does one get justice with the ASPD teens??

Vera


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From: XtraMSN NicknamekeepbeingtrueSent: 18/08/2008 2:48 p.m.
I don't think in reality you ever do get justice...and even when they manage to get caught and punished they don't take any blame anyway and convince everyone around them that they are victims, so they get exactly what they want...more attention:>)
The ones who recognize it simply avoid it at all costs:>)

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From: XtraMSN NicknameS11021Sent: 18/08/2008 3:54 p.m.
I agree 100% with you keep being true....This is a no winner with these guys...you try to get justice and it will bit you in the butt.  They are used to using people and their weaknesses so those of us who are not users get burned.

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From: XtraMSN NicknameVera206Sent: 20/08/2008 12:59 a.m.
Last comment.....re; what comes around goes around OR, they get it back OR God will take care of them?? Is this all bull? OR are you just supposed to live in pain, cuz frankly my ( and the anger WILL not go away).....no Antidepressants, no alcohol, and certainly NO BS therapists..................anger turned inwards, well we all know the answer to that. But, BUT if you talk about revenge; people think that you are mentally ill....oh, they say, your'e only hurting yourself. We are usually not as cleaver as the possible P or N, so we might get caught....and end up in jail......meanwhile our lives have been destroyed. I am so sick by whats been done to me, and toooo many people are involved......justice, no I know that I will not get that.
They say, it takes a thief to catch a thief////maybe Ps turn other people into Ps.....people who were once loving and caring. I just parted friendship with a long time friend,,,,a friend that "did not understand", probably gave her a since of power to kinda keep blaming me.....well, bye to her.
I resort to reading over and over again "The 48 Laws of Power".....problem is; I am not living in Napoleonic times and don't have years to scheme it out.....nor do I have a series of people who may do me some favors..............I just don't know.
This comment has to do with previous blogs regarding my daughter and ExH that I posted about on the P board.

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From: XtraMSN NicknamekeepbeingtrueSent: 23/08/2008 3:14 a.m.
Vera, you have to let go of the anger, it only hurts you and feeds your P...seriously. Forgive and forget...not only the offenses, but the person as well. Cut off contact and make yourself forget...it's the only way to keep your heart pure and your spirit healthy. You have to drop the anger, you really do. In time you will heal and have a much brighter outlook on your own life. Help those you can and leave the others to their own demise...but don't let them turn you against who you really are. P's can only turn you into a P if you allow it.

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From: XtraMSN Nicknamemaligned1000Sent: 2/09/2008 5:33 p.m.
Vera,
My anger came from other people blaming me, or thinking that I preferred my biological children to the adopted ones that were p/n.    But there was a time I use to judge parents, and thought to myself: "just give me a week with those kids and I'll have em fixed!"  lol  Boy did I learn that lesson!  You are detaching in anger now, but eventually you will be apathetic and detached with peace.  I can stay apathetic as long as i have no contact, and that includes no contact with ANYONE who has a relationship with or defends my p/n son.   But, my anger does flare up occasionally from memories. 

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From: XtraMSN NicknameunknownmsSent: 4/09/2008 5:01 p.m.
I think everyones journey to healing is different. For myself, I didn't rush it one iota. I was sick and tired of OTHER people telling me what to do and how to feel. I gave myself permission to feel as angry, bad, etc as I wanted for as long as I wanted. I was stayed angry as long as I felt I needed to be angry. I read "A LOT" (and still do) about Psychopaths/ Narcissists etc. It helps me feel not so alone in this insanity. So in my humble opinion, do whatever YOU need to do to make YOU feel better, in whatever timeframe YOU need. We, who have been through this insanity understand, and everyones trauma and journey to healing is different. We have been terrorized and traumatized, and many CIVILIANS don't get it. I don't think there is any one right way, or one correct time frame in which to heal. It takes whatever time, enerygy, anger, etc. it takes, for you individually. My best wishes to you, and you should know, you are not alone.

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From: XtraMSN NicknameunknownmsSent: 4/09/2008 5:04 p.m.
I should also mention that I did cut off all contact. For me, it was the only way to start seeing clearly, and although it hurts not to have contact with my only son . . . . I had to get out of "the war zone", inorder to see things clearly and heal.

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From: XtraMSN NicknamesparkysmoonladySent: 7/09/2008 3:33 p.m.
Oh Dear
 
It is all too familiar
 
When I took my Jekyll and Hyde two year old adoptive son to a doctor and then to another one and another one and kept trying
 
I finally got a referal to a Public Children's Psychiatric Unit - of course I was on a waiting list
 
The Dx was wonderful - the kid's okay - sedate the mother
 
I so totally know where all your posts spring from
 
All the crap people had to say
 
  • He's angelic - he could never be naughty
  • You've got to do something about that child
  • (Phone call) - your son is throwing rocks from the railway over pass onto cars running underneath
  • (5 mintues later) Your son is vandalising plants in the public park
  • 10 minutes later) It's Constable sonso for the local police station - we have your son in the lock up - will you come and get him

All in the one day......................

As I started -oh dear

Perhaps it's not we the unfortunate parents who are blinded to the truth - it's everyone else who just don't see them in all their gory behaviour

It's still tough

Sparky


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