good grief Kellomal-i don't know what he did, but i'm really sorry for all the lousy feelings you're feeling. sometimes i don't know how i'll get by 'til my 15 yr old  has his own roost to rule. I hate it when he's charming for awhile and i forget then wham !

not physical since he was arrested, but he has a way of pushing my buttons that can make me crazy- i have to remind my self if i don't react to his mouth-I WIN !!

                            belrose777

Hi Belrose and Vera, thanks for listening. I'm feeling a little calmer now.

In answer to your questions Vera---the Father is a P, I never realised this until a few years ago when I was researching info about Ps due to eldest son. I was only with him for a few years but unfortunately long enouugh to have 2 children. The eldest now 18, I left behind in the UK 2 years ago when we migrated here to Oz--sounds awful dosen't it----a mother leaving her son behind but the final straw was --he broke into our house and had be by the throat with a crow bar. The younger son has always been trouble and hasn't a genuine bone in his body----this was evident years ago. I just hoped that getting him away from his brother would make some difference but I was wrong. Since we have been here he has been in so much trouble with the Police--but they still keep telling me what a nice boy he is. He broke in to his friends house, has damaged property,stole from shops etc etc. He sees himself as a victim in all this and denies it all and has never shown any remorse as he never admits to any of it.

He basically does whatever he wants and I have very little control over him. He is so manipulative and acts in situations the way he knows e should---but it is all an act.

The final straw was I took him to get a mobile phone. He claims he was attacked a few weeks ago and they stole his phone---I didn't believe him-----I dont believe anything he tells me as he is a pathological liar. I ended up paying twice as much as I wanted for this phone and then got him some credit for it. The following day whilst I was in the garden he went into our bedroom---found my handbag(which is always hidden as he steals anything) and went into my purse and stole $100-----I just couldnt believe it after what I had just done for him. No wonder he looked so happy on his way out and even said bye to me and he wouldnt be late home and all the while he had that money in his pocket. I realised about an hour later that the money was gone and I rang him and asked for it back but he simply replied---I've spent it. There was no apology, no remorse nothing. Hubby knows nothing about this as he would throw him out even though he is only 16. I am still shocked but I know things will get worse.

Kel

The final  

Hi kell. You already know where this is heading.you have been there already. If your son can drive a wedge between you and H, he will do......where will that leave you? You have to show a united front or you are doomed.

 

I thought the mobile phone stuff was some sort of addiction....P stole to pay for phone cards.....wasn't the case at all, she stole because she wanted to. If your son wants anything other than food, make him pay for it himself...you don't owe him a phone or any other luxury. if he steals, report him to the police..he will make your life a misery as long as you allow him to and when he is ready, he will up and leave in the middle of the night or whenever it suits him without giving you so much as a backwards glance.

 

I agree with you re the disease stuff.....they are what they are and all they understand is hate and rage..let them get on with it...but we don't need to fall into the abyss with them.hugs.

If something is not done, and done quick about this 18 yr.old, NPD, it will be anotaher Casey and Caylee Anthony story