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From: XtraMSN NicknameSandieD23  (Original Message)Sent: 27/12/2006 3:30 p.m.
God, I've tried to write this 8 times now and each time I think that it just makes me sound like a terrible person.
 
My husband and I got custody of his daughter a year and a half ago.  We got married 5 months later in February.  It hasn't quite been a year yet.  I think a divorce is coming.
 
My step-daughter is really cute.  She was sweet at first, then it became sickingly sweet and I'd find things destroyed.  It took about 3 weeks for the behavior to set in, and about 6 months for me to finally see the truth.  She hides box cutters and matches, and carves things up in her room.  She destroys everything she can.  She lies constantly.  She'll urinate in her clothes on the carpeting, then take her clothes and hide them in someone else's drawer.  She was suspended from school for wraping a scarf around another child's neck and choking him until an adult had to pull her off of him.
 
We've had her in counseling but she snows them all.  "she's depressed".  She's more than depressed.  She's off the charts in intelligence, and she can manipulate people like a master.  She has no friends, kids hate her.  I'm scared as hell of her.  I've never hit her, when she makes me mad enough I just walk out of the house and leave for a few hours.  She's told the school that her father and I hit her, she's urinated in her clothes and told the school that we sent her like that as a punishment.
 
I've always loved children and I've always looked forward to being a mother.  But when I look in this child's eyes I see nothing.  Her eyes are dead.  She doesn't care.  No punishment, no reward, no words and no medications have changed her.
 
I love my husband.  If she was a different child or if it was just him and I, I can see us growing old together.  I don't know if we'll see past a year with things the way they are.
 
I don't know if I'm looking for support, a shoulder to cry on, or advice from someone who's been there.  But I know that I can't take much more of this on my own.


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From: XtraMSN NicknameShadow_Dancr_Sent: 27/12/2006 5:05 p.m.
Hi Sandie,

I am sorry to hear that you have need to be in our little group. I don't know what to say, you are in a no win situation unless your hubby sees the light about his daughter. She will play you against each other and paint you as the bad guy..how old is she?

I hope you keep posting, as there are awesome people here some of whom are going through what you are with step children...perhaps they have some advice for you.

Keeping you in my thoughts...

Dancer

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From: XtraMSN NicknameSandieD23Sent: 27/12/2006 5:29 p.m.
My husband is slowly beginning to see the light I think.  My step-daughter is 9.  Its a bad situation all the way around.  Her mother has been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, pathological lying, munchausen by proxy (sp) and god only knows what else.  We got custody of my step-daughter because her mother said she had cancer and was taking her for a bunch of tests.  My husband was never allowed to go to the doctor appointments.  Turns out she didn't have a thing wrong with her.  We made a decision to go for custody (hindsight).  It's been hard to get him to even get her to the doctors, but he told me this morning that he thinks that there is alot more wrong with her than just depression.
 
How do you disipline these children?  Grounding doesn't work.  Neither does spanking, deprevation of toys.  Nothing has ever gotten through to her.

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From: XtraMSN Nicknamehoneybee804Sent: 27/12/2006 8:47 p.m.
Hi Sandie,
 
Wow, sounds like my son who was fifteen when I got him.  The nice behavior lasted for exactly two weeks and then I saw the light after four months.  His Dad ws diagnosed as a P(psychopath) so his problems were glaring at me.   Wow, she sure sounds very manipulative for a nine year old.
 
My son would go around telling stories to anyone who would listen which was just about everybody.  He almost landed me in jail, so he had to go.  Do you think she is a P?  If so, there is a book called "High Risk" which is a very good book. 
 
Hugs,
 
Honeybee

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From: XtraMSN Nicknametwinkletoes678Sent: 28/12/2006 5:04 a.m.
Hi sandie...pleased to meet you. sorry you are having to deal with all this and the child is so young. My own P was 19 before we finally realised what she is and she no longer lives here.which does make things a bit easier to deal with. I hope you can find the help this kid needs and so find yourself some peace. hugs.

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From: XtraMSN Nicknamesias888Sent: 1/01/2007 11:04 p.m.
Sandie, You both have a hard road to travel, we had dealt with our daughters illness since she was 8 yeasrs old, she was more sexualized and abusive towards her brother, we never used corpral punishment, we used privelege loss mainly with her, our son was a blessing, she always turned us in for abuse, her story had to better than anyone else's in class, they used to have these classes at school for children to tell on their parents.  I don't know if they still do, but they should be banned.  Our daughter was put in the childrens home for 16 months where they said they can spot a manipulator easy, we told them they don't know a thing about them, we were right, our daughter manilpulated them all just to come home and continue her bad behavior, it wasn't till this experience that it was put in her school letters from counslers that she showed N with sexual preaucuaption,  try to get your little girl in a counsler that knows about her mothers illness and express to them the things that she does, I have been doing a lot of searching into these different types of behaviors, you might also buy the book stop walking on egg shells, by paul mason ,we found this to be very helpful.  You and your husband need to stick together on this or she will get away with almost anything she wants, I thank god for my husbands support, without him I don't think I would have survived.  He is a step parent to my children but he has been there father for over 22 years since I lost my first husband to cancer. Stick together like glue and she can't get over on either one of you, make rules and stick by them.  I am greatful to have found this web site, there is so much info out here for us, use it as well.  God bless you both and may god keep you safe.

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