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Surname D : DEMPSEY John
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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKate  (Original Message)Sent: 6/17/2008 4:30 PM

Hi

I  am researching the Dempsey family line John Dempsey b. c 1776 Kildare, Ireland transported 1802 "Atlas2"  from Waterford to Sydney NSW.

I saw your group mentioned on the NSW Families Site, saying it was a marvellous site and to take a look. So I did!  And it is indeed a very good site. I am the assistant manager of the Dempsey Family Site also on MSN and would like to join your  site for genealogical purposes per chance to glean a glimpse of an ancestral descendant and to read all the postings especially the Irish section.

I am searching for an article published in the Irish Family History Magazine  No 18(2002) P 17-20 titled "John Dempsey, patriot, prisoner and pioneer" by Judith Saunders and was hoping to put out some feelers to see if I got obtain a copy of this article.

Many thanks - Kay Cole



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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 6/17/2008 4:45 PM
Hi Kay Marian Has asked if i can help you.
 
First with Ref to The book,There is one Site i know where you can get books on Dempsey
I have set this to the page for you
 
Mike

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 6/17/2008 4:48 PM

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 6/17/2008 5:45 PM
Kay This site Has Electronic Book
 
Mike
 

1799:  The Appendix to the HoCJ for this year provides, on p.ccxcii +, a Report of the State of the Gaol in Co. Kildare (at Naas) by Rev. Sleater, the Local Inspector:
"...the Gaoler .. keeps his Prisoners heavily bolted with bar-bolts; whenever this custom prevails it is generally done for the Prisoners to pay for their being taken off, as bar-bolts are a cruel and dangerous Ligature. This Gaol is very badly supplied with water. I have always found the bedding to be very bad."
99 persons were tried in this County the last year; 25 were convicted; 13 suffered death and seven were respited. 61 criminals were in custody on 1/1/1799.
 
Name                Crime with which Charged          Verdict      Sentence & Observations
Patrick Connolly   Tendering an unlawful oath       Guilty           Transportation for Life
Philip Keogh                       ditto                          ditto              Hanged
Laurence Bolger                 ditto                      Not Guilty         Discharged
James Mooney                   ditto                      Not Guilty         Discharged
Francis Mitchell   Shooting with intent to murder  Guilty             Hanged
John Connor                  Murder                         Guilty             Hanged
Jas. Casey, John    Attacking a dwelling house  Not Guilty        Discharged
 Dempsey & 12 Others 
Note that John Dempsey is referred to in Pat Power, People of Wicklow 1798 The Rebellion, Dun Laoghaire, 1999, p33, as amongst those transported to New south Wales, Australia. Saunders [Judith Saunders, ‘John Dempsey, Patriot, Prisoner and Pioneer�? Irish Family History, Vol 18, 2002, p17-20] writes that he was born in Co Kildare c1776, but nothing is know of his family or life before June 1801 when he was tried by Court Martial at Baltinglass, Co Wicklow, and sentenced to transportation to NS Wales for life. From Baltinglass he was sent to Naas gaol and there described as aged 20, native of Kildare, farm labourer, Catholic; 5�?�?swarthy complexion, dark brown hair and hazel eyes. On 30th May 1802 he board the Atlas II ship at Waterford with 190 fellow Irishmen, of whom an estimated 75 were United Irishmen and 112 others were classified as ‘political offenders, and four as criminally convicted. The ship arrived in Sydney on 30/10/1802, with all landing in good health, due to the kindness and attention of the Captain. He partnered Ann Roberts of London and had children. On 9/5/1845 he died, aged 69 and is buried at St Mathew’s Catholic Cemetery, Windsor, where his grave is graced with a fine sandstone gravestone, inscribed a second time at the bicentenary year of 1798 by his descendants. Ann lived to be 100 years.

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 6/17/2008 7:00 PM
Kay the irish Family history foundation ,Have the Following records but none for the year you Require 1776
 
Action Source Surname First Name Year County
 Church Baptism Dempsy John 1767 Co. Kildare
 Church Baptism Dempsey John 1787 Co. Kildare
 Church Baptism Dempsey John 1789 Co. Kildare
 Church Baptism Dempsy John 1790 Co. Kildare
 Church Baptism Dempsy John 1793 Co. Kildare
 Church Baptism Dempsey John 1796 Co. Kildare
 Church Baptism Dempsey John 1802 Co. Kildare
 Church Baptism Dempsy John 1811 Co. Kildare
 Church Baptism Dempsy John 1814 Co. Kildare
 Church Baptism Demsey John 1815 Co. Kildare
 Church Baptism Dempsy John 1779 Co. Dublin
 
 

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 6/22/2008 11:40 PM
Hi Kay there is a site in Aus that may interest you on the dempsey lines
 
Mike
 
 
 
 

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