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| | | From: Paul (Original Message) | Sent: 7/28/2004 9:37 PM |
Hey Guys,<o:p></o:p> I went to court on Fri last week for driving on a suspended license. I got 5 days in the can and 25 days in-home detention. So I’m going to use the incarceration to kick the H cold turkey. Any suggestions to make the withdrawals less painful? Figured this is the crowd to ask.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Paul<o:p></o:p> |
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Paul, Honest to GOd this is the first I've seen of your post. You said they threw you in jail for five days.....how did it go in there? Was it terrible or what? Did they give you something to relieve some of the symptoms of withdrawal? When my husband went to a hospital/rehab place to kick they gave him the meds that Kay said in her post. Also a sleeping pill. I dont know how bad your habit is, am I remembering correctly that you were using for a couple months?? Hopefully, if thats the case you'll be okay after a couple weeks, which it is right now since you posted. HOW ARE YOU DOING???? I'm thinking of ya, luv, sue |
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| | | From: sophia | Sent: 7/3/2005 5:05 PM |
Just wanted to jump in real quick - I noticed Paul's post is from 2004 - hopefully his kick went well...... Toughbottom (Jeff) - welcome to HoH - here you'll find a wonderful group of people in all stages and from all perspectives of addiction, always willing to offer advice and support. If you have any questions or want to introduce yourself, you can start a new thread - the general messages board is a good place to start. I joined this site about three years ago and although I don't post much anymore (though I hope to when I get my new computer set up!) I'm always amazed at how much the people on this site care....and offer their time, love and support to those who need it. It sure helped me when I was in dire straits or just have questions regarding anything having to do with heroin addiction, kicking, methadone, hep c, whatever... Feel free to ask or say pretty much anything here, it is an extremely non-judgmental place! Anyway, welcome! Take care everyone, Sophia |
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hi tough welcome, we dont always reply to old posts but ive been an addict that long that ive lost the odd year there and there, keep posting and enjoy your new family, john |
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Hi Sophia & John, Hmm. I didn't even look at the date when I replied to that post, I just read the content! But thank you both for the welcome. I wish I'd know about this place a couple of months ago! Jeff |
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I was reading this old post and wondering who it was
from??
It was from Paul, I remember him.
He wrote me once from rehab about 4-5 months ago, he was
in a long term facilitly.
He sounded great and I hope he continues to do
so.
Paul, if you are around somewhere, please write to
me, or H of H and let us know how you are doing, OK???
I truely care, love Karen
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Paul,
Honest to GOd this is the first I've seen of your
post.
You said they threw you in jail for five days.....how did
it go in there? Was it terrible or what? Did they
give you something to relieve some of the symptoms of
withdrawal?
When my husband went to a hospital/rehab place to kick they
gave him the meds that Kay said in her post. Also a
sleeping pill.
I dont know how bad your habit is, am I remembering
correctly that you were using for a couple months??
Hopefully, if thats the case you'll be okay after a couple
weeks, which it is right now since you posted.
HOW ARE YOU DOING????
I'm thinking of ya,
luv,
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hi paul, glad you made it here, this thing just appeared on my screen one day, im not good on comps yet and didnt even know how to find my way back to HOH but i had to its the place for me, i keep coming back im a bit like a yoyo, all ups and downs and this is helping been an addict forever, now im moving on with this life dealing with me in reality is not easy but ive been in soap opera city for what seems like an eternity, i felt i had some control and BANG the years disappeared one after another always waiting for the perfect day to stop.found out everyday is the right day(PINK FLOYD album MEEDLE song FEARLESS) need to go now love to all who read this thank you all |
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I see that Paul's message was from almost a year ago. Hope he's still hanging on or at least in a head/physical place where he can eventually try again.
Why am I replying to this thread? It seems like forever since I've been able to post anything that might be considered even remotely helpful.
Right now I'm just being sad. I read green's post where he said "and BANG the years disappeared one after another always waiting for the perfect day to stop". It hit me that four years have disappeared while I waited and expected that day to come for someone and I know it was going on before I even knew him.
I don't expect it any more.
I know, 4 or 5 or 6 years isn't all that long. Just that it's hard to watch his years go by knowing that even if he stopped for good today, it would still take quite awhile to resolve the causes and the effects. God knows I don't want to write him off and I sure don't want him to think I have. I lost a chunk of my life to depression and anxiety disorder so I know you can still build a good life after hiding from it for a number of years. But I'm finding it harder and harder to keep that focus.
I don't know if I'm becoming more realistic or more self protective. I just know I need to find a ways to try to be there as a friend without crossing the line between my needs and his.
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| Hi Paul this is Bright I wanted to say to you from my heart that i hope you are doing okey.! I for onr know what your going throguth. I've had to sit in jail many times and was sick as a dog,being in jail and going through withdraw's is the worst,cause the cops and nurse there don't care,they feel like we did this shit to are self's so let us suffer,their thinking this way because their thinking that if we suffer we'll know better not to do it again. and most of the nurse say and believe that we will not die from withdraws,they believe the withdraws are ful like,but man they have it all wrong and it seems that one or two people have died from this heroin withdraws in their jail and the family of thie people of sued the shit out of them so you'd think they would come up with a plan to help those that are heroin or other addicts at least give the med's that some what help with the symtoms. but my advice to you is get someone who will get med's to help with the withdraws so that you'll be able to deal better. write me back if you want and i can give you a list of the meds that work. and if you want paul you can email me personally for any thing okey heres me email address [email protected] I will be asking god in my prayers that he helps you through this,i to will help. friends Bright | | | |
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Jeff,
If I had a dollar for everytime I said or wished I had
found H of H sooner then I did, I would be rich.
I didn't find H of H until after My Son died of a H
overdose.
Here I have learned a wealth of information and made
connections with people who have helped me learn about addiction and also helped
me understand my son and what he went thru.
The important thing is you did find the site. Better
late then never right????
I am glad you found us, and hope you stick around and
learn too.
Much love Karen
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Hi Sophia & John,
Hmm. I didn't even look at the date when I replied to
that post, I just read the content! But thank you both for
the welcome. I wish I'd know about this place a couple of
months ago!
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Sophia,
I am glad you posted, it was good to hear from you and
know you are well.
Hope you continue to post more,. I miss you.
How are you doing????
I will never ever forget the letter you wrote to me after
Ginos birthday, it touched my heart and made me feel so happy for
you.
I have it tucked away, I will save it
forever.
Much love Karen
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Hi Sophia & John,
Hmm. I didn't even look at the date when I replied to
that post, I just read the content! But thank you both for
the welcome. I wish I'd know about this place a couple of
months ago!
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Better late than never is certainly true, Karen. I'm so sorry about your son - I can't even begin to imagine...... I have never been interested in drugs - and I'm late thirties - and never even smoked grass. I think in retrospect being older made me think I was somehow immune, so when I was at a party a few months ago and it was offered by someone, I thought why not? I mean people say often you should 'experience' these sorts of things and I've never bothered or been interested, so I had a snort. I'll also point out that I'd never met this guy before or most of the people there, so I thought none of my regular friends will ever know. Well, it was a good experience. So much so that when quite by accident I ran into this guy coming home from the gym one night I took up the offer of having another go and then caught up again on the weekend and did it again. And, I must point out, I felt fine and 'in control'. Plus, when I offered to pay for it, he said don't worry about it. This went on for a couple weeks until I was sniffing away four or so days out of seven and thoroughly enjoying myself, I must add! Then in the third or fourth week (I can't quite remember) when this guy came around he bought some syringes and suggested injecting. This freaked me out a bit but he convinced me the needles were new and clean etc, so again, I thought why not.. I think at this stage though, I was probably a bit under the influence. So he did the fix and wow - that felt even more amazing and I did that a few nights that week and honestly, at the time, I felt psychologically in control. The crux came on a Thursday night when he said he could get some stuff for me on the weekend and would come over on the Saturday and show me how to fix myself properly. That really freaked me out when I thought about it because I realised what was probably happening. Straight away that scenario cigarette smokers talk of came into my head - you start smoking socially at parties etc and then before you know it, your buying packets for yourself. Cutting out some psychological bits that were going through my head, I decided on the Friday to take myself away and out of town for the weekend, hoping that I wasn't addicted. One part of my head was saying 'you'll be fine, just have one more go' and another was saying the opposite. Thankfully, I forced myself into the car and started driving. As it turned out I spent the weekend - beginning Friday on the drive to the country - and the Monday and Tuesday the Sun and Mon being the worst, with bad stomach and back cramps and very agitated. From what I've heard, this was a very mild withdrawal, so I presume time was on my side to some extent. I was very angry at myself to have allowed myself to get into such a mess but even weeks later I thought (and still do sometimes) about using. Bizarre. I have been able to keep all this from people close to me but often think what would have happened, if I hadn't taken myself away. So for the first time in my life, I quite understand how things like this happen. For me, the (judgemental) image of a 'junkie' is an unwashed, bedraggled street dweller and I think psychologically this attributed to my 'experimenting' because the guy supplying me was a rather fit bloke, well dressed etc etc. so it didn't make using the stuff feel so 'scummy' if you know what I mean! I know that's ridiculously shallow but that's how it felt to me!  Sorry for the ramble but thought you might like to know what brought me here! Jeff |
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Hi Jeff, Thats some story! My husband was kinda older when he started using heroin (30something) . We were married for about yrs, I've always used, he knew about it. Then one time he says he wants to do it. I beg and beg and cry and cry for him NOT to use, I knew what would happen (and sure enough, it happend) . But who could blame him? He said he wanted to see what all the 'excitement' was about. Well, that was about 15 yrs ago and now I look at him and just feel really bad. luv, sue |
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Sue, if you'd told me this story about your husband a few months ago, I would have written it off as impossible but I thoroughly understand *now*! H is such a drug of stealth and I'm sure he thought just a few times and he'd be fine. The trouble is when you're doing it, you *keep* saying that. As for your thoughts, well, you can warn and warn someone about anything in life resulting from your own experience but there's a 'determination valve' in the minds of all of us once our mind is made up... To warn is about all we can do for them.. jeff |
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Jeff,
I had the same picture in my mind of a
junkie.
Someone who isnt like anyone I know, and I had no use for
them.
When My Son told me he was addicted to H, I thought, NO
way, how can he be addicted to Junk???
That wasnt possible, he never had a bad
upbringing, didnt come from a broken home and always had everything he
needed and wanted.
I have learned thru all of this that Addiction has NO
prejudices, it affects our children, our chrildrens friends, our netighbors, the
lady down the street, ect.
I am glad you were able to stop it before You were
completly taken hostage.
My Son told my daughter from teh first time he tried H, he
found the love of his life.
He had NO idea of the pull of it all.
If you wnt to learn more about Me, or My Son gino you can
go to his website.
Much Love Karen |
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