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From: Nathan  (Original Message)Sent: 1/15/2003 9:15 AM
What with all the cold weather recently I was thinking back and remembering that I am sure we always used to get alot more snow when I was younger.  With the exception of those living in the highlands it seems that the rest of the UK is lucky to get a dusting at best.
 
Most years at Quantock seemed to bring an abundance of snow.  There would usually be at least two weeks where the grounds would be covered.  This of course started out as crisp clean snow, soon to be replaced by brown, icy slush that would be thrown at unsuspecting victims.  I remember one particular year when some fifth years started rolling a giant snow ball aound the all weather pitch.  I seem to remember this being huge.  The congregation after prep would always lead to some of the greastest snow ball fights ever.  I remember once Mr Phil coming round the patio block telling everyone to get inside.  I was up near Mr Langleys class with Matt Bowen (I think) and we both threw snowballs at Mr Phil, hitting him nicely on the back with a satisfying thud.  This of course was followed by immediate dread about what we had done.  Mr Phil started shouting for whoever was guilty to come out of the shadows so that he could give the culprit a thick lip.  I spent the whole evening in fear, waiting for him to come into the dorm.  One of my more daring moments at Quantock.
 
What does everyone remember about winter at Quantock ?  Those storage heaters were not great at keeping Big Dorm A warm when it was blowing -10°C outside !!!  The cold weather was usefulI remember for making jelly though.  This was quite popular with many pupils in the cold weather where various containers would be hanging out of windows or hidden on ledges on saturday nights after people had gotten their stocks from Nether Stowey.  I must apolagise now for stealing some that I found by accident on a ledge by the fire exit near the bogs on the junior wing in about 1987.
 
 


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From: BriSent: 2/3/2003 8:13 PM
Ok.. I'll add my tuppence worth..
 
The building was commissioned by the 1st Baron Taunton (later 'Lord' Taunton) Henry Labouchere (often erroneously referred to as "Henry du Pre Labouchere", which was in fact the title of his nephew, a renowned Liberal MP and later a Radical).
 
Henry Labouchere was descended from a merchant banking family, and agreed to marry a daughter (Frances) of the Baring family (of Baring's Bank fame - think 'Nick Leeson') as a means of achieving a business deal, namely a merger between the Hopes bank, for whom Henry Labouchere was a board member, and of course Barings Bank.
 
It's safe to say that Henry was extremely rich..
 
In 1844 Frances gave birth to a daughter, Emily Harriet. In 1844 Henry purchased a stately home (Stoke Park, near Stoke Poges, Bucks - it's now a hotel and golf club, what else...) from Granville John Penn, a descendant of the Penn family - ie, William Penn, Prime Minister and the 'Pennsylvania' lot.. Just for info, despite what the history books might tell you, the Penn family fortune was based on piracy, invasion, slavery, plunder and theft. (These days, even the people in their home town of Bristol would consider them a bunch of nasty gits). So here Henry Labouchere lived with his wife Frances. In 1850, Frances died (not sure what of).
 
Two years later in 1852, Henry re-married; to Mary Matilda Georgiana Howard. The Howards were an immensely influential family - with an impeccable pedigree - definitely nobility, and related to Royalty (Mary Matilda Georgiana could trace her roots to a common ancestor of Catherine Howard, wife of Henry VIII, whom, as we all know, was beheaded by the murdering bastard after only two years of marriage).
 
At some point soon after, they had two daughters, Mary Dorothy and Mina Frances.
Henry and Mary frequently entertained guests and visitors at Stoke Park, counting novelists, poets and artists among their guests. They were no strangers to The Court of Queen Victoria either, being regularly called upon to make the short distance to Windsor to attend dinner parties and social functions, and soon the title of 'Baron Taunton' become one of 'Lord Taunton'.
 
Both Henry and Mary were avid patrons of the arts and soon amassed a sizeable collection, particularly contemporary paintings and sculptures. Perhaps with the notion to be near Taunton as a result of his peerage, and almost certainly with an interest in acquiring a home for his and Mary's art collection, Lord Taunton commissioned the construction of a new building in the Quantocks - which we all know as 'Quantock School' or, more properly, 'Quantock Lodge'. Completed in 1857, Quantock Lodge became home to Lord Taunton, and his art collection. The cemetery at Over Stowey has gravestones suggesting that he even brought some of his servants from Stoke Park).
 
Emily Harriet, the eldest daughter, married the Earl of St Germans (Cornwall), Henry Eliot, and went to live in St Germans, at Port Eliot house. By the time of Henry's death in 1869, he had no male heirs to his estate or fortune, and when his wife Mary died in 1892, the estate passed to the next eldest, Mary Dorothy, who had married Edward James Stanley - an army officer and also a member of a noble family. From this point on, the family fortune seemed to be gradually dwindling, perhaps an army officer's pay at the time was struggling to meet the expenses of maintaining a house and staff such as Quantock Lodge? They had three children, Evelyn Mary (who also married an army officer), Henry Thomas, who was killed at the battle of Hekpoort, South Africa during the Boer War (there is a memorial to Henry Thomas in Over Stowey churchyard, although his actual grave remains in South Africa). The next eldest, Edward Arthur Vesey Stanley, is a bit of enigma to me. He married twice. His first wife died only as recently as 1972, so it must have been a divorce. He re-married in 1936.
 
Edward Arthur Vesey (or just E V) became the Master of the Quantock Hunt for a time, until he could no longer afford it and passed the job on to someone else.
For whatever reason, the fortune inherited from his grandfather via his mother Mary Dorothy was presumably either totally depleted or about to be so, for items from the extensive art collection were beginning to be sold by E V with increasing frequency. In 1920 the estate, and the collection of art it contained, was completely and finally sold, and left the ownership of what remained of the Labouchere family for the last time.
 
The building became a santorium (tuberculosis hospital - not to be confused with 'sanitarium' - a mental hospital, as some pupils in my day thought), and in the 1960's became a public school. But we all know that don't we.
Personally, I find all this rather fascinating, which is why I started looking into it all, but then I'm an anorak..
 
Cheers
 
Bri

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From: MSN NicknameNickD1958Sent: 2/3/2003 8:18 PM
But a particularly learned one........
Nick.

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From: BriSent: 2/3/2003 8:20 PM
Arse - why do you never spot mistakes until you publish something..
 
"..In 1844 Henry purchased a stately home.." should read "..In 1848 Henry purchased a stately home.."
 
Bri

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From: JoolsSent: 2/3/2003 11:34 PM
the odd error is more important the fact after all what is the truth ?

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From: Mike (Blakey)Sent: 2/4/2003 6:31 PM
Bri,
 
I think that probably ranks as the most studied and even intelligent sounding submission to date. How long did that lot take to dig out - all done on the net  - or even using books and stuff?
 
Jools, even for you that must rank as gibberish - good work, keep it up. After all, all threads need balance, and after Bri submission we needed it in heapings ...
 
Mike
 
PS Anorak - is that a polite version for the word "nurd"?
 
 

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From: BriSent: 2/4/2003 7:18 PM
Mike
 
What's a book?
 
All off the internet I'm afraid, over about five to six weeks of a couple of hours in the evenings when Mrs Bri was working, so about 6 hours a week I guess. I only posted the facts that I'd verified from more than one source though - there are some other things that would be pretty interesting if only they could be confirmed by a different source. For instance, there are only seven known copies of Guttenburg Bibles in existence (or there were in the 1800's anyway - most of these were in museums or other state-owned collections, but I came across something that said that Henry Labouchere had one, at Quantock Lodge. I'd love to be able to confirm this. There are also other accounts of Shelley and Byron holidaying with Henry and Mary in the Scottish Highlands one year and subsequently being invited back to Quantock.. How cool would that be to confirm..
 
I also found some superb photos of the building and grounds from the early 1900's, I can't nick these until I've contacted the owner for permission though.
 
The rest is all genealogical data from various sources.
 
It would make quite an interesting book I suppose, most likely only of specific interest to a section of people but others more generally interested in that era and how the gentry lived might find it interesting perhaps. Maybe if I ever get enough time to myself and the motivation, not to mention the ability to travel to some of these places to do the research more thouroughly, maybe I'll give it a go one day.
 
Yep, 'anorak' is more or less a nerd/nurd. Derives from the rather socially-disfunctional hobby of trainspotting, the participants usually standing on cold windswept platforms, religiously and obsessively writing down locomotive and rolling stock serial numbers. They usually wear anorak coats..
 
 

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