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From: MSN NicknameStarliteny1  (Original Message)Sent: 9/12/2004 10:41 PM
What really makes me mad is when a very good customer of mine comes in when I'm not there, when they have my card that clearly states when I'm there, and they see me over a month or more from then, and they say "I came in and you weren't there, and so and so did my hair",  or "every time I come in, you're not there", or "I thought you didn't work here anymore". Don't they think to ASK whether you work that day, if you're in the backroom doing laundry, or if you come in at a later time that day? I'm sure if they did, they would get the correct answer. I wouldn't even mind if they want to try someone new, but I don't understand how someone could not even try to find out that sort of information if it were indeed important to them. Well, I guess this bothers me because I have gone out of my way more than once to accomodate, such as staying late, etc. This just could really hurt sometimes.
 


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From: MSN Nicknamecutterj2000Sent: 9/13/2004 2:13 AM
Unforunatley we are an expendable sevrvice, I myself found this out recently.  We as stylists are very pasionate, sensative people who need the reasurrance of others(clients)to tell us how great we are, that is our Achilles heel.  Lately, instead of trying to win Miss Congeniality, I provide a service to the best of my ability and collect my pay.  Every client is a walking dollar sign, when one leaves another replaces them.  It may sound harsh, but I know from experience the sacrafices hairdressers make to retain clients.  How many times have you come in sick or missed a family get together to appease a clients schedule only to have them not show up or not tip?  The salon industry needs to run more like a profesional business rather than a mom and pop shop.  We need to demand more respect for ourselves.  People say "oh, but you're only a hairdresser", let them get a bad haircut and see how unimportant our talent is. 
The image of a gum poppin' air head is synonymous with a hairdresser.  How many creeps have hit on you at work because all hairdressers are easy?  I have stated befor that our industry is one of the top10 high stress jobs.  Co- workers are self serving, clients are unfaithfull, society has little respect for us, so why do we do it?
Because it's the best damn job in the world!  We hold in our hand the power to make or break someone- we just have to learn to keep the power.  (I'll come down off my soap box now)
Anyway, I found my boss booking my clients for herself.  That's a fine reward for loyalty. It happens to the best of us.

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From: MSN NicknameCORPUSCHRISTILISASent: 9/14/2004 12:17 AM
I AGREE ,
WE DON'T GET THE RESPECT OR THE PAY WE DESERVE, BUT I HAVE TO AGREE WITH DR. PHIL THAT WE TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO TREAT US.
 I REMEBER TIMES THAT I WOULD GO OUT OF MY WAY TO PLEASE CLIENTS. I WOULD COME IN EARLY, STAY LATE, COME IN ON MY DAY OFF, WORK ON A HOLIDAY, BUT THE ONE TIME THAT I HAD TO RESCHEDULE THEM OR I WAS RUNNING LATE THEY WOULD  GET MAD AND START GOING SOME WHERE ELSE. WELL LET ME TELL YOU , I DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE. I WORK ONLY THE HOURS I WANT TO WORK, I DON'T DO ANYMORE FAVORS FOR CLIENTS. IF THEY ARE RUNNING WAY LATE I RESCHEDULE THEM, AND. THE CLIENTS THAT LOVE MY WORK FIND AWAY TO MAKE IT ON THE DAYS & HRS THAT I WORK.
 THE BOUNDERIES THAT I HAVE ESTABLISHED WITH MY CLIENTS GIVES ME MUCH MORE RESPECT. I NOW TEACH THEM THAT I AM A PROFESSIONAL AND WILL BE TREATED AS SUCH. I HAVE GREAT SKILLS AND SERVICE AND THAT'S WHAT THEY COME BACK FOR. HAIR STYLIST NEED TO MAKE THE CLIENT FEEL LIKE THEY NEED US AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. IF THEY FEEL LIKE WE CAN'T MAKE IT WITH OUT THEM , THEY WILL TREAT US IN SUCH A MANNER.
 I AGREE THAT SALONS & STYLIST NEED TO BE MUCH MORE PROFESSIONAL THAN WHAT THEY ARE.

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From: MSN Nicknamegeorgiapeach896Sent: 9/21/2004 5:12 PM
Is your salon more of a walk-in salon? All of my clients would always call for an appt or make one after there service for the next time. Maybe you can suggest to these cleints when they say this to you, to make an appt. for next time to ansure they get you.I would always say to mine to not leave out making their appt. I think it looks good for you because it would let them know that you were in demand and if they didnt make appt they would be giving that time to someone else.

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From: MSN NicknameStarliteny1Sent: 9/22/2004 2:53 AM
Yes, the salon where I work is a walk-in salon. They don't allow appointments. One way I insure that they could always get me, and not wait too long, is I have them call me the same day, or even a few days before, and I will sign in their names way before the time they're due to arrive so that by the time they come in, they'll most likely be next. The problem is that some people don't do that sometimes, they are shopping, and just decide to drop in. Of course it would be much easier if we did appointments, but there is a downside to that too, which is if someone doesn't show up, it could leave a hole in your schedule, and also I would say about 80% of clients would rather walk in then make an appointment, because they are mostly busy or spontaneous people, and would like to do things like that at their own convienence. I'm not even supposed to sign anyone in, but like I said, I have gone out my way for these clients, and thought I would have the same respect returned.

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From: MSN NicknameleoninedreamSent: 5/5/2005 3:31 AM
Hey CutterJ, I agree with you.  A few years ago When I was cutting this guy's hair, he proceeded to tell me that the reason that we hairstylists do hair is that we were not smart enough to get into a real college.  He said that he knows this because he had been in the military. (I know, it didn't make sense to me either) Well I don't take crap off of anyone, especially jerks like him so I told him that every guy that I know who joined  the service did so becuse they had attitude problems and couldn't hold down a job.  I also told him that our profession is not only artistic but technical at the same time and that only intellegent people can pull that off.   Needless to say he learned to keep his big mouth shut.  He was never a jerk to any of us again.  (Oh and I mean no disrespect to anyone in the military.  The insult was only aimed at him.)    Another thing that makes me mad just happened the other day.  I started working at a new salon, we had an open house so people can check us out.  A friend of the manager was there.  this woman is one of those people who thinks she knows more about your job than you do even though she doesn't do hair.  Well anyway, she was asking me about my experience and credentials, so I told her I've been in the business for 14 years, I was master designer and colorist at my old salon and, I have had extensive training in color and texture services.  I answered all her questions.  She called the manager later that night (they're friends)  and said I am arrogant and was bragging about how good I am.  If she didn't want to know why did she ask?  She was interrogating me but I guess she wanted me to act timid and unsure of my abilities.  I have every right to be confident, I've worked my tail off for the last 14 years to get where I am.  Do you know I got a talking to about my acting too confident?  Isn't that the stoupidest thing you've ever heard?  when I was a manager, I had talks with my stylists about acting more confident. I feel like I went to work in Bizarro Salon.              

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From: MSN NicknameStarliteny1Sent: 5/5/2005 5:54 AM
Not having a college education used to bother me. When I feel insecure, I remember one of the reasons why I chose this career-to be creative. Having a college education is great, and while I encourage young people to consider it, I don't regret the path I chose. People could think what they want about us, but I for one know that I'm not stupid. It takes a pretty smart person to know how to deal with a creep like that guy who made that thoughtless comment to you.  This career choice is a calling, a passion for art. It takes patience, and confidence. People who call you arrogant, cannot handle confident people. They probably wish they had a passion to drive them that drives us. Why else would we work so hard at something that is considered one of the most high stress jobs? Because we love it.

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From: MSN NicknameVallkyrieSent: 5/6/2005 12:58 AM
Wow - what an idiot. Confidence is so important behind the chair.



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From: MSN NicknameStarliteny1Sent: 6/5/2005 7:04 AM
I have learned my lesson about trying to please everyone. Today, someone called the shop and told the girl who answered the phone that she always goes to me, and asked her if there is anyone else there who has the ability to cut hair. She said she was trying to come on a day that I'm not there. What's that about? Is she looking for a change or more options? Whatever it is, I will no longer put myself out there for anyone. CutterJ is right, when one client leaves another will take their place. I will relax, do the best that I can, collect my pay, then go home.

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From: MSN NicknameCosomo4Sent: 6/5/2005 3:59 PM
Look at it like this,
    Most Clients really just want to try something new.  Dont take it personally.  You will get some of their clinent as well.  Share the wealth. The ideal is to have everyone clents come in and feel comfortable sitting in anyones chair.  Thats how you keep the businness in the shop.  Also if this is happening a lot you may want to consider avdvanced cometology traing such as taking up seminars on your weakness.  Like you already know, Im a student.  The salon Im going to be working in when I get out everyone is good at one particular thing. they all have their specilties.  You  may also have to go out and get you a fresh bathch of customer. Pick the one that you know  you can do an awsome job with or someone you can really work with........................Cosomo

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From: MSN NicknameDyan3451Sent: 6/5/2005 5:24 PM

First of all I always love that question, "Can anyone else cut Hair?"  We all can cut hair, it's just if the client and the stylist click well together.  Some people just need a change from time to time, but when you see that client you should go up to her and say hi and tell her you are glad she decided to stay with the salon.  I think alot of times they are just scared of your reaction to the whole situation and by doing so it will make you look very professional.  And you just might get her back.


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From: MSN NicknameStarliteny1Sent: 6/5/2005 10:38 PM
I would love to be gracious, and say hi to this woman, problem is I don't know who she is. Maybe when she comes in (I have the next few days off), whoever cuts her hair will find out. Sure I get the clientel of some stylists who aren't available, and vice-versa. Going behind my back is insulting my intelligence. If she wants a change of style, I would be happy to give it to her, but I would think someone would rather stick to someone they know, such as a doctor who already has your patient history.

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From: MSN NicknameStarliteny1Sent: 6/6/2005 8:16 PM
You're so right, life is too short too worry about things like that! Everyone will probably sit in everyone's chair one time or another. I will smile, and do the best job that I can, and enjoy my life.
 
 

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