MSN Home  |  My MSN  |  Hotmail
Sign in to Windows Live ID Web Search:   
go to MSNGroups 
Free Forum Hosting
 
Important Announcement Important Announcement
The MSN Groups service will close in February 2009. You can move your group to Multiply, MSN’s partner for online groups. Learn More
ALL MY TUDORS...history chat[email protected] 
  
What's New
  
  ♦Greetings!  
  ♦Bits & Pieces  
  ♦Death & Burial  
  ♦Brasses & Monuments  
  Read this BEFORE you apply for membership!  
  ♦Group Guidelines  
  ♦To the Boards  
  ♦Message Board  
  
  General  
  
  The Dark Ages  
  
  The Normans  
  
  The Plantagenets  
  
  The Tudors  
  
  The Stuarts  
  
  Mysteries  
  
  Book Talk  
  
  Tudor Topics  
  
  Crusades  
  
  RBOR  
  
  WOTR  
  
  Right Royal Xmas  
  
  Royal Holidays  
  
  Misc Pages  
  ♦AMT Member Map  
  ♦AMT Member List  
  ♦This Week in History  
  ♦Castle of the Day  
  ♦AMT Goes to the Movies  
  ♦Lovely Links  
  ♦Brilliant Books  
  ♦Royal Begats  
  ♦The Royal Book of Records  
  ♦The Crusades  
  ♦The Wars of the Roses  
  ♦Six Wives  
  ♦Off With Her Head  
  ♦The Reformation in England  
  ♦The Tudors and the Tower  
  ♫Tudor Music  
  ♦Tudor Limericks  
  ♦Elizabethan Insults  
  ♦Elizabethan Dressing  
  ♦Elizabethan Makeup  
  ♦The Invincible Armada  
  ♦The Great Fire of London  
    
  Pictures  
  Manager Tools  
  
  
  Tools  
 
General : Tudor Trivia
Choose another message board
 
     
Reply
 Message 1 of 4 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameLadyoftheGlade1  (Original Message)Sent: 2/10/2008 11:05 PM
There are many lesser known and obscure bits of history that range from the surprising, to the bizzare, to the just plain silly.  I thought it might be interesting to post some of this trivia.  So if you know about something or happen to come accross something in reasearch, please share it with us.
 
I'll start out by telling about JOHN DAMIAN (also known as: Abbot of Tungland).
 
In the reign of James IV of Scotland, John Damian was the royal alchemist and quite a favorite at James' court.  While in residence at Sterling Castle, James' alchemist had still not produced any gold even though he had an extensive laboratory which contained many bubbling cauldrons, whizzing and hissing apparatti, etc..  James had been quite patient with this John Damian but enough was enough.  James had supported and encouraged John for long enough and now he became demanding of some results. 
 
John, knowing that his days at court were numbered, took a calculated risk.  When James next confronted him, John declared that he would make actual, functioning wings and fly away to France!
 
He made quite an elaborate pair of wings which were covered in chicken feathers.
 
James IV and his whole court followed John Damian up to the ramparts of Sterling Castle.  There, John strapped on his wings, bid fairwell to the crowd and lept off.......he may have hung in the air for a few seconds before gliding like a rock to the ground below!
 
His luck was amazing as he managed to fall through some trees (which helped break his fall) and into a nice soft "refuse" pile.  He ended up with only a broken leg.  His statement as to what went wrong was ingenious...he should not have used chicken feathers as chickens do not fly, but that he needed to use royal hawk feathers the next time.   (there wasn't a next time)
 
The year of this event was 1507 and marks one of the earliest, documented attempts of manned flight.
 
 


First  Previous  2-4 of 4  Next  Last 
Reply
 Message 2 of 4 in Discussion 
From: GreensleevesSent: 2/11/2008 9:05 AM
To think Margaret Tudor missed this fun LOL

Reply
 Message 3 of 4 in Discussion 
From: ForeverAmberSent: 2/12/2008 3:15 AM
I got a little-known trivial bit on Henry VIII.  Do you know he was the only monarch of England to insitute a law declaring that convicted poisoners had to be BOILED TO DEATH?   Apparently in 1531 a cook in the household of the Bishop of Rochester added a little something to the food that caused everyone to hie off to the close stool with violent diarrhea, & two of them died of it (not a lovely way to go by any standard).  Henry was outraged at this & had this statute created just for this unfortunate fellow, who was publicly boiled at Smithfield.  Two others, both women servants accused of poisoning their mistresses, also received this icky penalty before Edward VI repealed the punishment in 1547.

Reply
 Message 4 of 4 in Discussion 
From: GreensleevesSent: 2/13/2008 9:56 AM
Speaking of boiled.....
 
When Sir Thomas More was executed, his head was parboiled & stuck on a pole at London Bridge.  More's daughter paid the bridgekeeper to knock it down She caught it, took it home & years later, was buried with it
 
Sir Walter Raleigh's wife kept his head in a red leather bag for 29 years after he had been executed in 1618 by James I  

First  Previous  2-4 of 4  Next  Last 
Return to General