MSN Home  |  My MSN  |  Hotmail
Sign in to Windows Live ID Web Search:   
go to MSNGroups 
Free Forum Hosting
 
Important Announcement Important Announcement
The MSN Groups service will close in February 2009. You can move your group to Multiply, MSN’s partner for online groups. Learn More
Betwixt the Sea and Sky[email protected] 
  
What's New
  
  Messages and Momentos  
  General  
  Discussions  
  Fun & Games  
  World Care  
  Pictures  
  The Gallery  
  ï¿½?Fetch �?/A>  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Treasure Box  
  Bards Bench  
  Sound Waves  
  Inspirations  
  Prayers & Wishes  
  Family Life  
  Smiles  
  Kith & Kin  
  Bards Bench  
  Workshop  
  Recipe & Remedy  
  Documents  
  Betwixt's Own  
  Betwixt's Pick  
  Bars and Banners  
  Backgrounds  
  Gifts  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Kith & Kin  
  Parenting Links  
  Well Wishes  
  Amber Alert  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Wheel of the Year  
  Metals  
  Tree Magic  
  Stones & Gems  
  Animal Lore  
  The Winds  
  Earth Energy  
  Moon Phases  
  Red Hill Valley  
  Kids Stuff  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Library  
  The Bookstand  
  Study Hall  
  Tales & Legends  
  Pathways  
  The Occult  
  Pagan Nomads Dictionary  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Nature's Realm  
  Herbal Applications  
  Herbal Safety  
  Witches Pharmacopoeia  
  Wild Herbs  
  The Healers Nook  
  Weed Wanderings  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Common Ground  
  Religion ~ Timeline  
  Golden Rules  
  Religion of Magic  
  Emergence  
  Eco~Spirituality  
  Pantheism  
  Sacred Shapes  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Chakras  
  Meditation  
  Auras  
  Colour  
  Astral  
  Past Lives  
  Life Forces  
  Reiki  
  Labyrinths  
  Stuff of Dreams  
  Dream Time  
  Lucid Dreams  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Covenant of Peace  
  Desiderata  
  The 3 Worlds  
  The Red Road  
  Yin Yang  
  Warrior's Path  
  Chivalry  
  Brehon Law  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Spirit Realm  
  Apparitions  
  Things that go Bump  
  Haunted  
  Mirror ~ Mirror  
  Spiral Staircase  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Divination  
  Rune Lore  
  Numerology  
  A few last words...  
  ï¿½?± �?± �?± �?/A>  
  Community Posts  
  Phoenix  
  Re R.Phx  
  Hawk's Own  
  Mah Jongg  
  Badger's  
  Wanduring's  
  Nymph's  
  Fernmeadow's  
  Sidhabhair's  
  
  
  Tools  
 
Spiral Staircase : Do you believe ... ?
Choose another message board
 
     
Reply
 Message 1 of 4 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname»®ed«·»Ph¤enïX«  (Original Message)Sent: 9/7/2004 4:48 AM
... that inanimate objects can develope a manitou or spirit? A house? a car? a room? a rock?
 
 
"they say a house is not haunted, simply that it has gone insane"


First  Previous  2-4 of 4  Next  Last 
Reply
 Message 2 of 4 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameLeilaOfTheWoodsSent: 9/7/2004 8:07 AM

Hmm, that is a good question! I do believe inanimate objects can possess energy (good or bad) but develop a spirit?  Pondering on this. Aboriginal beliefs refer to the tree people or the stone people and them as possessing their own spirits. All "inanimate objects" we find in our lives are in one way or another derived from wood or stone so....? Hmmmm....

Leila


Reply
 Message 3 of 4 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname»®ed«·»Ph¤enïX«Sent: 9/7/2004 4:10 PM
I was brought up within my mothers belief that all things contained manitou, some stronger then others but still there ... in fact, for as long as I can remember my mother has named her car(s) and given them almost human characteristics. I guess it rubbed off early, lol... I find I do the same thing now and again. However ... although I believe everything in existances has an energy signature, or that those objects that have been in constant contact with sentient Spirit could possibly develope any real spirit of its own ... almost like a kind of transference. Unfortunately the weak point in that notion is that I've never yet encountered a pair of haunted shoes or had an falling out with my toothbrush, soooo .... I'm not sure, perhaps instead of a transference it could be a matter of imprinting?
 
Red

Reply
 Message 4 of 4 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameÇâlâís•ÑøxSent: 9/7/2004 11:36 PM
I think that all objects are capable of picking up energy. I do not believe that all objects are capable of developing a Spirit or soul. Stones, plants, rivers etc. are from nature and so are a part of the whole Earth energy. Certain natural objects do contain devas which most definitely have individual Spirits. As for rooms and other places it gets more ambigious. A cemetery, for example, is obviously full of spiritual energy left by those grieving at funerals and in some cases left by the spirits of the dead who did not pass right away or at all. Rooms where horrible things have happened retain that "feeling". The same goes for rooms where wonderful things happened. A church, for example, can be an uncomfortable place for some Pagans but if we look deeper we can feel the joy of all the happy energy left there--weddings, baptisms, countless songs sung. The same could be said for a ritual room or an altar--energy can be felt on al of the items. In most cases I believe energy is imprinted. I've never been ablle to draw a charge through a tv or a car. A crystal, symbol, or tree I can.

First  Previous  2-4 of 4  Next  Last 
Return to Spiral Staircase