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From: Tayawasmynamefirst          Sent: 8/15/2004 11:28 AM

Wanduring,
     I've wondered about when the 'soul transfer' occurs myself and I've met people in my lifetime who caused me to wonder if they were 'skipped' so to speak. I've heard it surmised by many of the religious that it occurs at birth however I'm not sure I believe that either, some part of me believes it happens as a spirit chooses its conception and I realize that cannot be proven.
 
I would have to agree with you on genetic programming, as we bred birds for many years in effort to bring about specific traits and reduce others and many horticulturists and husbandry experts practice the same thing daily. I feel that it can make a species stronger, however it can be argued that it weakens species as well, but that's according to poor science IMHO. As usual the few screw it up for us all. This hearkens back to the cloning issue for me, because for many reasons I agree with the experiment if for nothing other than to cure diseases. Finding those weaknesses in the DNA and correcting them I feel is a great thing, the great work so to speak, but there of course are those religious fanatics who want to argue that it's playing god and they too would be correct, because there are the fanatic scientists who would love nothing more than to assume a position of godhood! OY.
 
On the stimuli, for years doctors have worked on me because I have some strange nerve problems, shafts of the nerves are forming lumps and I respond differently to pain and pleasure than others, certain things that should hurt me don't and strange sensations occur on the surface of my skin when the touch should be pleasurable. Pain occurs at times when certain areas of my skin are stroked and other times I enjoy the stimuli. I'm beginning to think it's not merely physical.
 
 I also have a sleep disorder that stymies me and my family doc. For many years I've tranced and I've been doing it since childhood, so now it's so bad that when I sleep, I trance and I can't hear normal household noise like alarm clocks! I block it out and an alarm clock won't wake me, but an unusual noise like someone coming through the door, or something being dropped or knocked over will wake me. The problem is, I need to hear an alarm clock but I can't figure out how to resolve the problem, so I either have someone call me to wake me up and yell on my answeing service or they have to physically come in and wake me. So what some would call a skill, has become for me a disability. I'm reasonably sure that the reason lies within a severe childhood trauma for me, but no amount of introspection and examination has done to solve the problem. I've had to develop a sleep pattern that allows me to get up within 7 hours and within the last year I've done pretty well with that, the only problem with this method is being tired enough at the proper time to go to sleep, so I've limite my caffiene intake to half and if I have an early appointment coming up, I work for a few days beforehand to control my schedule. It's a quandry that there seems to be no answer for.
 
I read somewhere in a thread about the chemical stimuli the brain sends to the limbs stopping movement creating a paralyzed state during sleep, that doesn't happen for me either, I suffered extreme night terrors for years, sleep walking and fighting in my sleep, my brain did not stop sending chemical signals to my limbs, but as I have aged these events have decreased, occurring only two to three times a year now rather than three or four times a week.
 
If anyone else reading this thread has suffered sleep disorders of the like, I'd love to hear from you and hear what if any solutions you've found to your problem.  My sleep most of the time is not restful, I'm travelling during sleep most of the time and probably remember more dreams than I should and I should mention that I'm lucid most of the time. To get a truly restful sleep, I have to be sleep deprived for a few days beforehand, in other words, I have to be completely exhausted to the point of near falling down. So ANY suggestions would be helpful. I have tried hypnosis, it doesn't work, sleep aids leave me too groggy the next day. Regimines don't seem to work either.....
 
Tay