MSN Home  |  My MSN  |  Hotmail
Sign in to Windows Live ID Web Search:   
go to MSNGroups 
Free Forum Hosting
 
Important Announcement Important Announcement
The MSN Groups service will close in February 2009. You can move your group to Multiply, MSN’s partner for online groups. Learn More
Betwixt the Sea and Sky[email protected] 
  
What's New
  
  Messages and Momentos  
  General  
  Discussions  
  Fun & Games  
  World Care  
  Pictures  
  The Gallery  
  �?Fetch �?/A>  
  ☼₪ �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Treasure Box  
  Bards Bench  
  Sound Waves  
  Inspirations  
  Prayers & Wishes  
  Family Life  
  Smiles  
  Kith & Kin  
  Bards Bench  
  Workshop  
  Recipe & Remedy  
  Documents  
  Betwixt's Own  
  Betwixt's Pick  
  Bars and Banners  
  Backgrounds  
  Gifts  
  ☼₪ �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Kith & Kin  
  Parenting Links  
  Well Wishes  
  Amber Alert  
  ☼₪ �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Wheel of the Year  
  Metals  
  Tree Magic  
  Stones & Gems  
  Animal Lore  
  The Winds  
  Earth Energy  
  Moon Phases  
  Red Hill Valley  
  Kids Stuff  
  ☼₪ �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Library  
  The Bookstand  
  Study Hall  
  Tales & Legends  
  Pathways  
  The Occult  
  Pagan Nomads Dictionary  
  ☼₪ �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Nature's Realm  
  Herbal Applications  
  Herbal Safety  
  Witches Pharmacopoeia  
  Wild Herbs  
  The Healers Nook  
  Weed Wanderings  
  ☼₪ �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Common Ground  
  Religion ~ Timeline  
  Golden Rules  
  Religion of Magic  
  Emergence  
  Eco~Spirituality  
  Pantheism  
  Sacred Shapes  
  ☼₪ �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Chakras  
  Meditation  
  Auras  
  Colour  
  Astral  
  Past Lives  
  Life Forces  
  Reiki  
  Labyrinths  
  Stuff of Dreams  
  Dream Time  
  Lucid Dreams  
  ☼₪ �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Covenant of Peace  
  Desiderata  
  The 3 Worlds  
  The Red Road  
  Yin Yang  
  Warrior's Path  
  Chivalry  
  Brehon Law  
  ☼₪ �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Spirit Realm  
  Apparitions  
  Things that go Bump  
  Haunted  
  Mirror ~ Mirror  
  Spiral Staircase  
  ☼₪ �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Divination  
  Rune Lore  
  Numerology  
  A few last words...  
  �?± �?± �?± �?/A>  
  Community Posts  
  Phoenix  
  Re R.Phx  
  Hawk's Own  
  Mah Jongg  
  Badger's  
  Wanduring's  
  Nymph's  
  Fernmeadow's  
  Sidhabhair's  
  
  
  Tools  
 
Family Life : Kids and basic meditation
Choose another message board
 
     
Reply
 Message 1 of 4 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname»®ed«·»Ph¤enïX«  (Original Message)Sent: 3/22/2005 3:30 PM
I have often used visualizing techniques with my kids at school, I've found that with their amazingly vivid imaginations, many take to it like fish to water. Granted, I have worked with kids on either side of a happy medium as well,... theres kids so locked in their own inner world that trying to reach it is often futile and occassionally frustrating although it can be done only by their permission, and so it is with my autistic students (to date, I've only succeeded with 2 students out of 7) and the few that live with domestic abuse. Then you have children with almost no imagination what so ever ... that is frightening to me, these are often the ones that live literally in front of a television, they can recite by rote their favorite cartoon, but they can not create the simpliest skit in their own heads. These ones I can reach by wading through the social and media programing (sometimes I just can not believe what these kids are watching!) ANYways....
 
A while back I had posted some focusing techniques I devised for my students, they were simple beginner steps meant to be built on. I've now gotten the chance to look at them again from a new perspective yet again ... my own child. My kid is a wonderfully creative and imaginative individual, she really blows me away somedays... and many that meet her. They tend to wander away with a bemused expression after any real length in her company, lol Well (I do ramble, don't I?) a week ago last saturday, kidlet and I attended an open ritual ... we watched. The whole time she sat hip to hip with me and observed everything... She was fine when she was sitting with me, but says she felt dizzy and tired when she moved away. She said that she felt funny when everyone finished and thought she was going to be sick... at my touch she was cool and clammy with a fine sweat sheen and a pale face. She headed straight to the washroom, when I checked on her she was holding her head saying she was going to be sick, but insisted that wasn't her stomach it was her whole "inside body" She said she felt like she was sweating inside. I wanted to get her outside asap, for obvious reasons. I had not even considered an adverse effect because I have always done ritual here at home and openly, with the exception of my Samhain work or when I know I am going to be working with a lot of energy or the veil ... then I make arrangements for her to be off the premises altogether. I've always know she's a sensitive but failed to consider her exposure to even a low energy ritual or any energy other then mine. Lesson learned.
 
Does anyone else have children affected by energies or other similar experiences?  I've already explained to her that she has to work with me on a few things first before I let her get involved and that we would probably watch another one (after the basics) just to satisfy my own concerns first.
 
Which brings me back to the original topic, lol... Meditation for kids. She has started with some basics, like the tree visualization and grounding, the sun shield (a variation of my sun-heart focusing technique) She has taken to it remarkably well, and I'm curious to see how far she will advance into meditation on her own and with my help. We discussed what she was doing last night and watching her face as she recounted what was happening inside her was really interesting. She has now discovered a whole new world, lol literally. I gave her a guided meditation last night as she slipped away to sleep..." the wooded path to your secret place of strength and yada yada..." you know the one. Well this morning when she woke up, she was smiling and incredibly cheerful (almost frighteningly so by my standards, lol) and told me she felt better then ever before, although she didn't know why, lol So I'm thinking that this is going to be well worth observing and exploring with her, who knows what I too will learn in the process, hmm?
 
 


First  Previous  2-4 of 4  Next  Last 
Reply
 Message 2 of 4 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname»®ed«·»Ph¤enïX«Sent: 3/27/2005 3:30 AM
Okay.... voice of experience talking here. Do not let children have crystal balls while attending ritual. Kidlet recieved a small crystal ball for Ostara and worked at me all day to be allowed to bring it with her to my weekly pagan class and public rite, she simply wanted to show her most prized possession to friends. It wasn't for scrying or anything other then focusing her meditation techniques. I am beating myself up over here for allowing her to bring it against my better judgement... I simply should have foreseen tonights outcome.
 
I had suggested it stay in the box while I was in circle, however because she HAS used it for focusing, she did so tonight as well .... apparently a meditating sensitive outside the circle with a crystal is akin to standing on a hilltop with a lightening rod.  Instead of a normal quiet meditation session she ended up with a divination tool that was picking up the stray energy outside the circle and inadvertently feeding it into her self. The result was a pain wracked weeping child that didn't know what hit her.  My parental guilt and lack of foresight is pretty damn heavy at this moment ... however lesson learned (for both of us... maybe next time she'll listen to me!) I have 2 options now ... bring her directly into the circle next time... (protected space) or henceforth keep her at home where she will be perpetually pissed off.
 
One thing I do know is that her meditation practice will keep up, especially learning how to shield herself. ... because omg, when puberty hits... Sometimes, with the things she says and does I am astonished, but right now I feel like I'm sitting on a power keg and it truthfully freaks me out. I had to learn everything through exploration and trial & error, some was easy , some took alot of work. She does all of these basics easily and naturally ... what else can she do?
 
 

Reply
 Message 3 of 4 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname154SerenaSent: 3/27/2005 9:21 AM
I hae read your post with great interest, since I also have a daughter.
However the next month she turns one year old, so it is only to wait unril she is old enough to understand things.
 
But any advice of how to introduce her to "our world" would be very helpful. Cause at this point I have no idea of how to start.
 
Secondly, can you please tell mer more about ..." the wooded path to your secret place of strength and yada yada...".
Thank you!
Blessings
Serena

Reply
 Message 4 of 4 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname£ÔRÐ×ß4ÐG3R�?/nobr>Sent: 3/28/2005 5:13 AM
It sounds like kidlet took this bad psychic situation very well...She's getting a fasttrack education in magick at a very young age and I'll bet she'll grow to be an advanced practioner at a comparably young age. --L.B.

First  Previous  2-4 of 4  Next  Last 
Return to Family Life