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| | | From: Nova (Original Message) | Sent: 7/10/2002 7:13 AM |
Hi. I'm hoping to get some people's first hand experiences here. I'll try not to be too winded (may not be too successful  ) I've read Mattie Sue Athan's book on Quakers. I've read a lot of posts here and on other boards. I've read a lot on the internet. Not to say I know it all because I lack experience and I understand that each bird will be different and a lot depends on the amount of time you spend with a bird, the training and reinforcement of good behaviour, being able to play independently, etc. Mattie Sue seemed to say "if seeking a quiet bird... to seek a baby not raised around noisy imported or breeding groups..." , "quaker's have neither an extremely loud voice nor a reputation for excessive frequency of vocalizations..." , that screaming is a learned behaviour... covering the cage can control noise... I spoke to a pet shop owner today and she said things like "their very loud birds", "they're often banned from high-density living quarters because of their noise". I don't doubt what she said - but I guess it got me to thinking (worrying) I'm worried that I won't be any good... I'll raise an unhappy, screaming little green dragon. When I hear talk like this I just don't know cause I have no experience. I know on the boards I've heard both sides - "their noisy!", "their only as noisy as the environment they are in, as noisy as you are", to "their not that noisy, not my bird". Again each bird is different, each house is different. Today, after my conversation, I sat silent for about 15 minutes. Something really hit me. I might be a quiet person. My house might be a quiet house. But in the summer the playground that is right outside my window is full of screaming kids (sometimes I almost loose it and want to yell at them to shut up, but then I remember they are children, it's a playground and I'd rather they were able to be children and let it all go). What if the quaker I bring into my home picks up their voices and screams? Again - lack of experience. I know you would ignore the undesired behaviour, work to have the bird perform a desireable behaviour and reward for that desired behaviour. I won't babble on much more. Is this what a pregnant woman goes through??? Man. I want to provide a good home and do the best I can. Any advice you may have is appreciated. Sorry this is so long. Cheers - Nova |
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Hi Nova, No Quaker here but with each type of bird there is a generalation that is suppose to descibe each type of bird and like people, each has it's own personality and it doesn't always hold true that the bird will fit that certain criterion. There are people here with Quakers that can answer your questions better than me. I've met some mighty sweet Quakers through the years though. An example would be Sun conures.....these birds are said to be very noisy but I don't find that with George. I'm not saying he never makes noise but he is not a screamer. Most birds have a time of day(usually morning & evening) when they "let loose" with their flock calls. I think this holds true with more of the larger birds though. Deb |
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I have 2. They are loud. No more so than my M2 or macaw. But they arent loud 24/7 either. They have a little akk that in times is nervewracking, but they are great little guys and I wouldnt trade either of them. In a quiet house, I guess they could be quiet. I dont know. lol My house is far from quiet. Its a great thing that you are asking questions and researching now. Let us know what you decide. Tink |
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I don't have a quaker either, but I do know someone who does. That bird is loud, especially when he doesn't get his way. Remember also, loud is a relative thing. Some people think budgies are loud and annoying, other people can live with a screaming cockatoo and think nothing of it. I know what you mean about wanting to scream at the kids to just SHUT UP! It gets on my nerves too. Just one more reason I have fids, not kids. |
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| | | From: DonHo | Sent: 7/10/2002 10:05 PM |
Nova, Will you have time for the new bird when the baby arrives? DonHo |
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I have a Quaker, and he is not noisy at all. Well, except when he is frightened by something outside - then he will let loose with some loud squawks. Normally he is really quiet. I also have a lovebird and an orange wing amazon. My amazon can get loud - especially if I'm eating in front of him. When my Quaker plays, he will bang his bell and plastic chain links against the side of his cage - or he will get on the bottom of his cage and have a conversation with himself (almost like when I yell at my 14 year old son) maybe he has picked that up too!! But they are the most wonderful little green chickens!!!!!!!!!
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I have 2. They are loud. No more so than my M2 or macaw. But they arent loud 24/7 either. They have a little akk that in times is nervewracking, but they are great little guys and I wouldnt trade either of them. In a quiet house, I guess they could be quiet. I dont know. lol My house is far from quiet. Its a great thing that you are asking questions and researching now. Let us know what you decide. Tink
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Hi !! Nova , I am no fid expert and have only had 3 different type of fids ..Sun conure ...VERY LOUD when wanting attention......Quaker not loud at all even when Calling not a ear piercing screech......Australian King ...chatter box but not a screamer at all....Minty the Quaker was not a loud fid BUT then he was not a 100% well for the last 6months of his little life either (sleeping and resting a lot) ..from most things I have read they don`t have much going against them, but they do love company if not human then another fid ....... MAJ.... |
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| | | From: Nova | Sent: 7/12/2002 7:38 PM |
A solution -- I am going to the breeders (It's a 4 hour excursion, one way) to spend some time with the baby and make my decision. Obviously this makes good sense. Thanks for all your information. Cheers - Nova |
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I have three Quakers, 1 the normal green coloration and two the blue mutation. I've found that they really are not that incredibly loud when I've made sure to give them lots of time out of their cages with me and lots to play with in their cages. If I haven't gotten them out anad provided toys they'll certainly not refrain from telling me about it, which can be loud. On the other hand, my quaker Pippin has learned to actually call me and ask for what he wants - an adorable and non-obnoxious way of venting his feelings I've always thought;-) But you are right, every quaker is different and I think every quaker can be a wonderful companion if you're willing to put the effort in. Good luck with the breeder and making your choice! Always, Silver:-) |
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Hi Nova, if you are pregnant, you might want to reconsider getting a bird for a few years. a quaker is ver demanding of one,s time and attention. i have a Quaker, and i got him when he was 7wks. old. He is now 5 yrs. old. Last December, i had a new grandson, who is now 8 mo. old. At first, Pee Wee was scared to death of the new baby, as he did,nt know or understand what a human baby was. I used psychology, and explained that he was a "baby bird." That did the trick! He does,nt understand why the baby has gotten so big! He is afraid of the baby,s big toys, and the ones that make noises! He does,nt like the baby pounding on the coffee table, etc; Samuel,s 4 yr. old sister wanted to hold Pee Wee yesterday, so i allowed him to perch a few seconds on her finger, and she was thrilled to death, but Pee Wee felt uncomfortable, so i placed him on his cage. He is very uncomfortable around alot of kids. they scare him, and they are too loud, and too much activity, makes him cranky. He loves children who respect him and have good manners. Too much activity, makes him nervous and unhappy. Good luck with your decision. Sincerely, sharon & Pee Wee |
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Nova, I have one Quaker, Envy, who is neither noisey or demanding. Which really surprised me~after all the info, I read on them. He is definately not your "textbook" variety. But when I brought him home I didn't run to his cage everytime he let out a sqweak or sqwuak(sp?). Most of the time he was playing with toys and was either excited or upset with them. But if I had run to see what the matter was, that would surely have sent a message to him!!! I was still hand feeding him, when he came home to live with us and I spent quality time with him during his 2 feedings a day. Plus when he was really quiet, that's when I would pick him up and tote him around on my shoulder or sit at the pc and type away. He's usually out of his cage and is pretty good about staying there. Though he does like to visit Chipper(keet) who has his cage next to him. Chipper and he are very good buddies, infact Chipper gets upset with me when I take Envy off Chippers cage!!!!  Skeeter |
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| | | From: bunny | Sent: 10/24/2002 6:36 PM |
I have a quaker and a tiel. the only time my quaker is loud is when he wants major attention or he thinks some one is talking to him but cant see anyone. Dont worry you will be a great parent. you know how I know. Your caring about the little things before you even get one. |
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My quaker is a mixture of things, so it would be unfair to describe him as loud in one term. For one thing.................he thinks he is a dog so he barks like a dog. He growls like a dog and sniffs like a dog. The quaker can be loud when he wants to but the neighbors are not complaining.....They are complaining about the sun conure. *lol, not true, they have yippy dogs so this is payback for all those long nights of continuous barking for 15 years.* Umm...the quaker who owns me is often just a little loud at certain times but for the most part he is not very loud that the neighbors will complain. |
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I raise quakers, sell them locally and have sold some on the internet (will not do that again) Quakers are communal, flocking birds that nest communally.
There calls are important and boy, can be loud,irritating,
and worse than cockatoos or Macaws. I lived with 5 wilder quakers for a few weeks (in the house and not my aviary) and it was a nightmare. However, once they were seperated and I was left with one, he quieted down and was relatively pleasant. Best to own individual quaker, hand raised. They are not as loud as the grouped pet shop quakers you probably have seen.
Always buy from a breeder. |
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