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General : may i vent again friends? this is unreal....
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From: MSN NicknameLunarKalia  (Original Message)Sent: 11/11/2008 8:32 PM
i am reeling from the absolute shock of this: my doctors' office left me a phone message; my EX doctor's office that is....the one who "fired me". the sec'y said they had finished making copies of my file....she didn't think she would "be able" to get to the post office "for awhile", so could i come pick it up? yeah, despite the fact that i PAID THEM over five dollars for the mailing costs. i don't even care anymore.

so i went. now this is a very small office....the chart area, where the sec'\ys sit is REALLY small....and there were seven women stuffed into it today...i c alled before i went over, to make very sure the files would be waiting for me. and there they all were, just standing there. i didn't even make eye contact with the doctor....the NICE sec'y handed the charts to me, pointing out that also included were files from the doctor before this one, the one who closed her practice so i needed a new doctor....

i drove to a mall to do some errands, but ofcourse had to look through the files. something i found blew me apart.

over a year ago, this doctor told me she wanted me to taper down on the meds. i agreed. what i realized though was that she believed that someone in the past had put me on narcotics for fibromyalgia. so i became proactive to the HILT....i called and asked for an appt. to just talk with her, to explain that part of my medical history.

the day came, and there we sat. i said i realized that she thought someone had done that, some other doctor, and asked her if my former internists' office hadn't included all the stuff about my shoulder surgeries, neck issues, MRIs, meetings with teh spine surgeon, almost having a fusion procedure, etc. she sat there, doe eyed, and said "no. "

i said "you were totally unaware of ANY of that?" she said "yes".

SHE LIED. she sat there and she LIED TO ME. and darn it all, in my GUT i KNEW IT....i just knew it at the time, but no, i was going to be a "nice patient" and BELIEVE the doctor. doctors don't lie, do they? oh ofcourse not.

well lo and behold, i look through my records and there are the records from the previous internist with ALL THE INFORMATION about the aforementioned shoulder and neck and spine stuff!!!!! that internist's office DID SEND IT. she DID know about it.

am i really that naieve?? i feel so stupid. why didn't i trust my gut? oh, and speaking of trust, on the sheet where she recorded the gist of our conversation the other day, when she "fired me", she wrote "patient has totally destroyed the doctor/patient trust bond".

WHAT??????

oh god.....i called that office THREE TIMES in the montha fter the accident....i tried to get in to see her and was always told to go get an xray, go to the knee specialist, go to the shoulder specialist......i tried to get in to discuss the pain med issue with her......

so I BROKE THE TRUST.....but her LYING TO ME is okay i guess.

i am so angry i don't know what to do with myself.

oh and i KNEW IT , instinctively, at the time!!!

so she played god.....none of my history was even relevant to her....SHE decided what the problem was......oh never mind....i am getting myself all worked up over this...it is making me feel sick to my stomach.

and right smack in the middle of all the papers dealing with the "firing", is a letter written by that sec'y who came out and told me "no, the doctor said you can't see your file...it is hers and you have no right to it.", and i said "gee, aren't i protected by law for that?" and she said "gosh, i don't really know much about that...." and now there is this little "document' where she says "patient DEMANDED to have her file handed over to her and didn't understand that we are a busy office and no one could give in to her DEMAND at that very moment."

oh it just gets worse......

how would any of you, pain comrades, handle this? i know , i know....MOVE ON...i AM moving on, but this is so upsetting......

i will take any advice.....i am so upset.....


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From: MSN NicknameCrystalSunflowersSent: 11/12/2008 12:57 AM
I've been responding, but out of order.  I think that the reason my acquaintances lost their drs was because the dr had been neglectful with the prescribing of narcotics, and that they were afraid of an investigation.
 
I'd see a lawyer.
 
I hope you can relax.  I can understand how upset you must be.
 
Due to the way these people have been treated, I'm meek and mild with my drs.

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From: DanSent: 11/12/2008 1:10 AM
You're better off without that idiot doctor.  Just keep thinking that and move on.  Keep your records from the old doc that shows your surgeries and injuries, keep any records that document your injuries from the car wreck, and try to find another doctor; one who doesn't know this idiot. 
 
Did you read the <<  *Strategy for Medical Control of Pain*   >>?  It's a comprehensive strategy to help your doctor get to the place where he or she can feel OK about prescribing medications for you.  It takes a little patience and some time, but it works.  As far as I know, it's never failed.  And it's very important in a state like New York where the doctors are under the gun for prescribing any narcotics. 
 
Lots of love and healing hugs,
 
Dan

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From: MSN NicknameCyndyK2Sent: 11/12/2008 5:22 AM
Unfortunately, the whole situation now boils down to an "I said/she said" deal, and your former internist has an office full of secretaries to back her up in her lies; you have only your word. If it makes you feel any better, write a letter to the AMA and report her. It's not likely they'll do anything, but at least your letter will be on file. She's already fired you, what more can she do? Well, she might manage to blackball you with every doctor in the area, but that's a chance you take. I personally wouldn't risk it; the medical community tends to look after its' own and they close ranks like you would not believe. She's a liar; you know it. If anyone asks you to recommend a doctor, feel free to say don't ever go to this one. But beyond that, Dan's right, you need to put her behind you and try to move on, hon. There are good doctors and bad doctors out there, just as there are good and bad lawyers, plumbers, electricians, and any other occupation you can think of. I really hope your new internist is one of the good ones. If not, you should be able to tell quickly and move on in your search. DO NOT STAY WITH SOMEONE THAT YOU DON'T TRUST TOTALLY!!

Cyndy

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From: MSN NicknameNatzoSwiftSent: 11/12/2008 2:50 PM
I'm so sorry you are going through this.  I know you feel you want to make her hurt, like she made you hurt.  You want her to tell you that she was wrong...but that ain't going to happen, unfortunately.  Like Cyndy and Dan said, there's not much you can do...yes, you are angry; and I don't blame you....you should be!  But she can do more damage to YOU than you can do to HER, unfortunately.  She could 'blackball' you...and that could be a real problem for you in the future.
 
I know I had a doctor that really got me angry, would not believe that I was having as much pain as I was...after shoulder surgery.  I found out (in error) that he wrote in my chart that I had a 'very low threshhold of pain...and only wanted more pain meds'.  Well, it turned out that I had a herniated disc in my neck and needed a 3 level fusion; THAT was what was causing my pain.  But he would not send me for a cervical MRI or any other test.  I did write him a letter, because it made ME feel better....lol.  I told him what he did was wrong, that he was inconsiderate and not at all professional, plus a few other things.  Needless to say I never got a response from him...but didn't expect to either.  But I also told him I would never go back to him, that I had lost all respect for him as a surgeon; and would never recommend him as a doctor/surgeon to anyone....ever.  He probably could care less about my letter though.  But I did hear that he has gotten a very big 'ego' and has lost many employees because of it.  But he's still a good doctor...so that keeps people going to him...so he hasn't lost anything.   My letter probably didn't mean a thing to him!  He could care less that he lost me as a patient!
 
But, you could be taking a chance by writing a letter to the doctor or to the AMA.  Sure, you're angry.....and you want her to know what she did wrong.  But she probably won't care one little bit.  And it could come back to bite you.  YOU know you were right....you know she lied....and you have learned now that when you go to a doctor what to tell them, to make sure they "understand" exactly what the problem is, what's been done, etc.  You actually learned something...which is a good thing.  Chalk it up to an 'education'....hard as it may be.  Like Cyndy said, you can tell people, if they ask, that you would not recommend her as a physician....most doctors get their patients by referral from other patients, so you're hitting her in the pocketbook.
 
Good luck with your new doctor...and now, at least, you KNOW what to look for in a doctor....so a good lesson learned!  Chalk it up to a life experience...lol.  Hope everything works out for you....and let us know how the new doc is working out for you.
Hugz,
Dee                       

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