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From: XtraMSN NicknameAnnieCarla  (Original Message)Sent: 24/11/2004 6:26 p.m.
Just taught I'd share my new discovery with you all.  Last year I had recognized that I was empath.  Come time just before halloween as soon as I enter my work place I'd get drained out completely.  As for funerals, well... that is deffinitely not my favorite place.  I can feel the pain from people even when I don't know the person who died.  Movies same thing;  when a sad movie comes I start getting a mad feeling inside not too mention can't stop those tears.  When I enter the chat room here, most of the time the energy is just what I need.  Just a few times I had to leave because of it. 
 
It's so true that I try to solve everyone's problems.. because it's not just sympathy.. it's the real thing empathy.  
 
My discovery is not the empath gift but reading here on the subject made me see it's very real and at some point I had taught this is probably where my depression is coming from.  Now I know it is.  I had noticed that people have a very easy time talking to me.  I'm always their shoulder to cry on but.. after I feel abused of it (meaning that when time comes my turn and I'm turned off or feel not important).. then I will tune out completely and won't give a hoot.   My mother for exemple would call me up for hours talking about how my father left her bla bla bla.. then as soon as I started talking about me a little.. she needed to hang up.  This went on for a while until I blew up!  and yes, I could just imagine beying on the other end of an empath blowing up. 
 
Anyway, I'm just wondering how I will deal with this because I just can't help feeling the way I do.  For me, tuning out is... I had enough but.. how can I do that and keep my good heart and good faith plus be genuine interested.  Now that would be a puzzle to me.
 
At least now I will STOP and recognize it.. then maybe I can deal with it differently.  Maybe I could recognize these are NOT my feelings.
 
Problem is with my ENDLESS health problems now and lack of energy.. I'm just wondering how I will get back up there without having someone to talk to who truely is interested in my feelings for a change.  Seems I ain't had a chance to do that in ages.   The friends I have usually talk about them then hang up.   My husband don't like to talk about things like that.


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From: XtraMSN Nickname«Mistyblue»Sent: 24/11/2004 7:12 p.m.
Hi Annie, I am afraid this is the case in so many suituations. People are happy to talk about there problems but often dont have the energy to listen to others.
 
Why is this?
 
One reason I can give is because when our energy levels are down, it can be very draining on another. If they are already down, to have to listen to another who is working on a low vibration only coninutes to keep the energy low.
 
When a person is feeling down they are wanting support and upliftment, to start feeling better about themselves and the suitation. Unfortually when you have two people feeling this low, they often will just feed off each others negitivity and either get no where or feel even lower than they felt before.
 
Those that feel negitive or low can be drawn to others that are positive and feeling alive, they hope this can rub off on them, but if you are constantly around someone that is feeling low, it can start to be very draining. We each play an influence on each other, we each can effect the way others around us feel. We are an interactive species of vibration and energy,.
 
A person can become attached to you or what some healers call cord attachments. When we get to know a person we form a connection and can on a emotional level form a attachment. We become very effected by how another acts and reacts and feels. Their pain can become our pain because we have become emotionally connected to them. When we have a cord attachment to another (picture like a large vacumn cleaner hose with a sucker at each end, attached from one person to another with a big sucker on the end ) we can become very drained. A healer will work on these areas and remove/cut these cords. However you then need to learn how to ground, protect and shield.
 
Those that are empathic, need to look at there diet and choose food's that boost there energy. Exercise is always very important and getting out side in nature, being around positive people with out being a drain on them. Have friends that are prepared to listen, but dont abuse this, no one wants to continually listen to negitive talk.
 
A suggestion is joining a church group or similar that has a support system in place that can help you through those rough patches. But mostly learn about your self, get to know yourself inside and out. Regonise those triggers that lower or uplift your energy and continue to be healthy and positive in mind.
 
Energy Healing is always helpful to help encrease your energy levels.
 
At the end of the day, we are excalty where are thoughts are at that time, so we need to learn how to empower our thought process and stay healthy body, mind, spirit and soul. Its hard work but its the best investment we will ever make for ourselves.
 
Just some thoughts
 
Blessings Misty  
 
 
 
    

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From: XtraMSN NicknameSilverSharmaSent: 24/11/2004 9:12 p.m.
Annie, how well I can feel emphathy toward your post.  I just learned that I am an empath a couple of months back, if even that long.  I too have read up and studied and talked with others in chats.  I just went through around a two week major depression and RAGE thing.  Never had I felt rage to that extent and hope to never agian, as my husband was on recieving end of my out of control anger due to holding in feelings about him for sooo long.  I love him, but he is negative and seems to have given up on life.  I am working toward what Misty wrote in her post to you.
I am going to join a gym and take paletes (may be spelled wrong) and yoga.  I am reading self help books and learning to shield.  I am striving to search within on what blocks me from a postitive attiudue and feeling as spiritual as I would like most of the time.  ALO, found me a lake I  love that's surrounded by beautiful woods!
 
It is not easy, but we are not promised an easy life.  To me life is a journey and we learn from both good and bad traumas.  I am sorry my hubby was at recieiving end of my rage for I did say many hurtful things that can not be taken back.  Yet, I learned from the experience that feelings kept hidden and that I won't even look at myself will come back to bite me.  I pray both you and I can learn to shield, be around postive people, and through help from God and our angels to grow in the Light that leads to peace and a positive life.
 
I am also drained by funerals, sad movies....even sad songs.   I go to chats to brighten my energies around the loving positive people there.  And yes, sometimes the subjects turn sad, for life does have sadness.  I am striving to stay in the sad chats and learn that when I leave I do not have to stay sad.  I am a firm believer that one can turn their day around at any time.  YET< during my two week depression rage found I could not do this...so I grabbed hold of words of wisdom in chats, and started to make myself refuse to dwell on the negatives.
 
Finally, I am no longer in the deep depressio but still have moments or hours where negatives out weigh my positives.  It is hard living with a negative person, but I do love him and have prayed and tried to shield that I will not let his negatives drain me.  I have to look our for me, as much as I love him, and keep myself well and on a path that is not destructive. 
 
 I also, have been sick a  lot, from stress.  I am recovering now from an illness and know I can make a choice to work hard at taking care of me so that I can help others or take the easy sadder path of letting myself succumb to negatives.
My heart went out when I read your post, it was like reading about me.  I am bad about pretending to others all is well with me as I listen to their problems. 
 
Then when I finally decide to share that I have problems to for some reason like you wrote the can't talk or don't want to hear.  I wonder perhaps is it because I am easy to talk to and they can unload and don't reliaze that I hurt so badly too at times, or would rather believe I'm that postive person always and my attempting to share hurt only makes them feel worse.
 
Prayers for you...for peace, understanding of self, and blessings.  And by the way, Ann, your post helped me look closer at my situation.  MISTY  your post back sure helped me too.
Blessings,
Coway
 

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From: XtraMSN NicknameeverseekingSent: 24/11/2004 9:19 p.m.
  You just need to learn to block, shield & release!!!!
We cannot hold others feelings/pain to ourselves, or we will get ill & depleted.
        Brightest blessings Always,
 

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From: XtraMSN NicknameAnnieCarlaSent: 25/11/2004 12:40 p.m.
Thanks ladies, it's always nice to have some understanding from somewhere..makes us feel less alone .  Oh yea and Coway,  I had forgotten about music.. whewwww.. I try to stay away from just leaving the tv on the music channel for exemple.. it just depresses me too mush.  Whenever I am at my deapest taughts sometimes suicidal; music makes me agressive and more sad if at all posible.
 
To be honest, I'm not sure I like to feel people thow.. I still remember being in school and feeling everyone's feelings like I did made me depressed even then.  I use do see a psychologist back then and she told me (every time I see you, you're always crying).. never could I forget that. 
 
I also always felt my mother was trying to get even with me for some reason unknown to me.. I had always felt she hated me.  That was and still is a hard one to swallow because the feelings are still there.
 
It takes a strong man to live up with me...and I too feel my husband is training me in some ways but I also know that I can't rely on others to make me better.. it hasn't helped me until now lol
 
The good news is about being empath is...once you open up to your gift you start understanding alot and stop the judging.. and I mean completely.  Even a murderer would just be a victim in your mind.. then, the taughts just come flowing in your mind automaticly and you begin undertanding everything.  Chills come thru you and what a feeling that is.  You then start feeling that this is heaven.. you try to help people without being to attached and feel great about doing so.. you know that you've done what you could and believe that.. maybe it's not time yet for them to see and that's okay.  Why do I know this.. because I've been there for about 3-4 months.  I will never forget that, ever!
 
Strange enough, my accident in 2001 made me stop and take a good look at myself.  That/this is not the person I want to be anymore.  Aint it funny how I know all this and I'm still stuck in my depression?  After all, I do have the advantage of having been there already...
 
I am going to fight myself to get back there.. being that angel again (is what it felt like).. and I hope that you too can find that place because it is worth looking for..
 
Carla

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From: XtraMSN NicknameAnnieCarlaSent: 25/11/2004 12:45 p.m.
just one more comment..
 
How did I lose my wings you may wonder?  I believe I lost them because I started using my gift against someone.. my husbands X g/f who he has a daughter with.  I taught she was the devil in disguise.  Makes you realize that even your taughts are recorded and can/will work with or against you.   
 
Carla

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From: beyondSent: 23/07/2005 10:11 p.m.
looks like u already have some great advice here, Ground and shield, first and formost.........after that, study, learn how to do what yur intuition has already told u many times

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From: XtraMSN NicknameMelanieMSNSent: 25/07/2005 1:29 a.m.
Hi I feel for you, no pun intented. Youve got to learn to picture a white bubble of protective divine light around you. When things/people are negative imiagine the bubble is mirror on the outside, reflecting back all the negative energies. When someone pisses you off, imagine throwing a pink pineapple at their head( the pink is for love), picture the mess and laugh.
People are probably drawn to you and unload all their problems ( people unconsciously sense us and come for our energy)  and you send them waves of energy but when its your turn they dont. People dont mean to be energy vampires, I think people dont listen and hear you partly  because it makes them uncomfortable, kinda like seeing your parents crying when your young.  Not all people are empaths so while we WANT ( lack of better word)to hear peoples problems to send healing energy, not everybody can or does. Not everybody can be sensitive to others feeings. In fact, in most conversations the person is waiting for the other to finish talking so they can talk( and get energy) and not really listening although they may hear you
Anyways, Im sending some healing energy to you, Im sure your depression will lift soon. :)
Love and light
Melanie
  

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From: skatieSent: 26/11/2005 8:16 p.m.
Hi ya, I can empathise :) with what youre feeling, Ive felt all that too. A book you might be interested in reading is by Kyra Mesich, its about empathy and depression. She suggest yarrow flower essence, do a search on the web about it, and check out what Kyra says on her website, Ive found it a really big help. It works subtely at helping you to stay a bit more detached.
Also, something I found by accident, is if you go to say a mall, see how you feel with a walkman, earplugs and music in your ears, I found it blocks out all the bombardment that I pick up from others.
I have found that originally I used my empathic skills to stay safe in the world, anticipating people, learned it as a kid, but it has its downside in that you pick up debris. Be aware of how you feel before you come in contact with someone and how you feel after. Its about not owning what isn't yours. And you aren't doing anyone any favours by owning their stuff so they dont have to deal with it.
 
Many blessings on your journey.
 
Kate

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From: XtraMSN NicknameKingfisher8894Sent: 27/11/2005 2:53 p.m.

Hi

 

I too am an empath and all the problems you are experiencing are common. I found that G&P (grounding and Protection helps)

 

below is the method I use, I put on my g&p when I wake up in the mornings like brushing my teeth. Try it see if it helps you.

 

Empathy if not controlled can be very upsetting for the empath as all the feelings and emotions of others bombard you, it is difficult to seperate others emotions from your own and you tend to take these emotions on, confusing them as your own.

 

 

Visualise a light coming into the top of your head, the crown charka see this light filling all the nooks and crannies.

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The light travels down your body your neck then shoulders travelling down your arms and into your fingertips.

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Now down your trunk into your hips and down your legs

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See the light growing from your toes becoming roots going into the Earth. Going deep into Mother Earth through bedrock and down to the earth’s core.

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See the core as golden light and wrap your roots around the core firmly. Feel the golden light being drawn up your roots into your feet. Now you are grounded

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For protection the simplest method is to visualise a bubble in front of you and step into it, so that it surrounds you and know that nothing except love can enter this bubble trust in your protection and it will stay strong.

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There are many other ways to G&P and you will find what works for you.  Some wear armor others use mirrors but like I said whatever works for you. As long your roots go deep into the Earth and are firm.

 

hope this helps

 

L&L

Kingfisher


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From: XtraMSN NicknameUBLISISent: 27/11/2005 11:28 p.m.
How "FATE" intertwines with our destiny and saves us from the mire of despair is our choice alone. Your power is only the beggining of what may come, " WITH GREAT POWER COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILTY", in each Journey we are given a choice at some point to go further, if we should wish to stop all of the knowledge we have been given up to that point will remain ours, if we wish to go further, than many test and lessons will follow.
One must look at the "Big Picture" , to go further not only must we see things for what they are, we must consider entities which are in the immediate area, as they will create havoc, as their job is to suppress humanity.
 
 
 
peace
Ublisi
   

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From: XtraMSN Nicknameƒwå�?/nobr>Sent: 28/11/2005 1:18 p.m.
 
Aloha!!
Annie Carla,
Don't dispear, your gifts are your greatest teachers.. Even the most enlghtened beings could not bear to turn thier backs on the sounds of humanities weeping, & so they continue to remain consciously connected to our human attributes to guide & assist us offering comfort, love & understanding.. The only difference is that we still live the suffering, & often belive we are alone, & that no-one can understand us, so why bother at all, ect.. 
You are not alone, thier are so many going it alone, helping others at the drop of a hat , so to speak because they feel something, & for whatever reason feel they can't ignore the cry for help..
Save yourself first, grow strong in all your senses & develop all of your skills giving them equal merit & quality time, & you may find new things catching your attention, like music, art, nature, cooking, dancing, feeling good ect..
((for me it was cuddling sick babies, even though I have my own children, then I discovered I could sing, wow... And suddenly the angels used my voice and wow, now I have a CD & have performed live, ect.. )))
I never would have imagined I could do this, & truth be told I am more empowered & in touch with spirit now than ever before..I believe its because I have found new ways to make my heart sing.. I thought doing readings & healings ect was my calling, & it is by degrees, but there is so much more to discover..  For when you are doing what you love, somehow people seem to forget thier problems & enjoy sharing time with you in the empowered spaces you have created within & without, its like YOU your  presence, your happy & contented self is more than enough to transform peoples moods into a higher state, where thier own guidenece /spirit is able to connect, ect.. You simply lift them up, you show by example..Its like having a neon sign saying " Im happy to help you if I can, but Im not here to be dumped on" For if you are filled with good positive energies, there isn't any space left for anything else, like peoples negativity, & Im sorry to say "laziness".. coz honey people will always take if you let them, & try to bring you down in the process..
But its not easy, I know.. It takes time, discipline & commitment, as for your feelings, re: being effected by movies & places, just go with them & work thru the emotions, the pain ect.. Ask for help from above at these times lean on the ones, who like us are here to help.. These emotions, as strong as they are, & as distressing as they are, have great relevence to your life & your soul's journey, ect.. Ask for some time out when things get too much, but don't turn off, hon, go the distance, trust in the process of your life.. You are special, & you are meant to experience all that is beautiful, even the bittersweet.. Taste life, in all its aspects & give when you can to whom you can, do the best with who you are today, & then surrender the situation to above, trusting that the people who seek your help. will find thier way.. The best thing you can do, is give them the belief that they will find a solution.. While you feel thier pain, they don't have to, while you lie awake worrying, they don't have to,why should they cry, when your crying for them ect.. ((examples only))
And when it come to you needing a shoulder, some shelter, or some advice, and feeling let down, ect.. Its my understanding that the universe is asking you to find new ways to express how you really feel.. Empaths have rights to... get loud, cry like a baby, have a tantrum, Let go... You will always be loved, no matter your actions..
But at this time for you hon, it will be your choices that will define you.. Don't be afraid to show people who you are, give people the belief that you trust them enough to Really listen & help you if they can..
Don't hold on so tight, let your gifts teach you , let your talents unfold naturally, I feel great things are in store for you, for you DO FEEL & CARE, & that tells me a great deal.. 
But its up to you to direct your light & ask for help when the going gets tough.. Don't act alone, let above take some of the slack, & somehow people just won't be able to take advantage of your Good nature..
It works, simply ask..
I wish you sooo much happiness, love & hugs.. Seek the shelter of the Angel's Light-Wings, & see your own beautiful wings unfold.. The best way to live as a divine being human, is to live a happy life, you don't need to fix anyone, or master anything, or develop certain skills, ect.. Simply Love with all your heart & spread joy & happiness & let above take care of the rest.. For me En-Lightenment means directing the light to do your bidding, & aligning your will with the will of the divine, & receiving comfort from Knowing thy will be done..
When you shine...You shine upon others.... When they shine... It makes our world so much brighter...
Yes you are an empath, for you have said it is so, but you are soo much more, why restict yourself with labels.. I Am All That I Am.. Seems to cover almost everthing & anything... Go For It All..
L&L
Fwa..

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