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Legends - Tales : INDIAN MYTHS OF SOUTH CENTRAL CALIFORNIA
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From: MSN NicknameAnnie-LL  (Original Message)Sent: 8/23/2007 1:01 AM
INDIAN MYTHS OF SOUTH CENTRAL CALIFORNIA
BY
A. L. KROEBER
[1907]

Part 1 of 2

RUMSIEN COSTANOAN. THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD
When this world was finished, the eagle, the humming-bird, and Coyote were
standing on the top of Pico Blanco. When the water rose to their feet, the eagle,
carrying the humming-bird and Coyote, flew to the Sierra de Gabilan. There they
stood until the water went down. Then the eagle sent Coyote down the mountain
to see if the world were dry. Coyote came back and said: "The whole world is
dry." The eagle said to him: "Go and look in the river. See what there is there."
Coyote came back and said: "There is a beautiful girl." The eagle said: "She
will be your wife in order that people may be raised again." He gave Coyote a
digging implement of abalone shell and a digging stick. Coyote asked: "How will my
children be raised'?" The eagle would not say. He wanted to sec if Coyote was
wise enough to know. Coyote asked him again how these new people were to be
raised from the girl. Then he said: "Well, I will make them right here in the
knee." The eagle said: "No, that is not good." Then Coyote said: "Well then, here
in the elbow." "No, that is not good" "In the eyebrow." "No, that is not good."
"In the back of the neck." "No, that is not good either. None of these will be
good." Then the humming-bird cried: "Yes, my brother, they are not good. This
place will be good, here in the belly.

Then Coyote was angry. He wanted to kill him. The eagle raised his wings and
the humming-bird flew in his armpit. Coyote, looked for him in vain. Then the
girl said: "What shall I do? How will I make my children?" The eagle said to
Coyote: "Go and marry her. She will be your wife." Then Coyote went off with this
girl. He said to her: "Louse me." Then the girl found a woodtick on him. She was
afraid and threw it away. Then Coyote seized her. He said: "Look for it, look
for it! Take it! Eat it! Eat my louse!" Then the girl put it in her mouth.
"'Swallow it, swallow it!" he said. Then she swallowed it and became pregnant. Then
she was afraid. She ran away. She ran through thorns. Coyote ran after her. He
called to her: "Do not run through that brush." He made a good road for her.
But she said: "I do not like this road." Then Coyote made a road with flowers on
each side. Perhaps the girl would stop to take a flower. She said. "I am not
used to going between flowers." Then Coyote said: "There is no help for it. I
cannot stop her."

So she ran to the ocean. Coyote was close to her. Just as he was going to take
hold of her, she threw herself into the water and the waves came up between
them as she turned to a sand flea (or shrimp: camaron). Coyote, diving after her,
struck only the sand. He said: "I wanted to clasp my wife but took hold of the
sand. My wife is gone."

RUMSIEN COSTANOAN. COYOTE

Coyote's wife said to him: "I do not want you to marry other women." Now they
had only one child. Then Coyote said: "I want many children. We alone cannot
have many children. Let me marry another woman so that there may be more of us."
Then the woman said, "Well, go."

Then he had five children. Then his children said: "Where shall we make our
houses? Where shall we marry?" Coyote told them: "Go out over the world." Then
they went and founded five rancherias with five different languages. The
rancherias are said to have been Ensen, Rumsien, Ekkheya, Kakonta, and that of the
Wacharones.

Now Coyote gave the people the carrying net. He gave them bow and arrows to
kill rabbits. He said: "You will have acorn mush for your food. You will gather
acorns and you will have acorn bread to eat. Go down to the ocean and gather
seaweed that you may eat it with your acorn mush and acorn bread. Gather it when
the tide is low, and kill rabbits, and at low tide pick abalones and mussels to
eat. When you can find nothing else, gather buckeyes for food. If the acorns are
bitter, wash them out; and gather "wild oat" seeds for pinole, carrying them
on your back in a basket.

Look for these things of which I have told you. I have shown you what is good.
Now I will leave you. You have learned. I have shown you how to gather food,
and even though it rains a long time people will not die of hunger. Now I am
getting old. I cannot walk. Alas for me! Now I go."

RUMSIEN COSTANOAN. COYOTE AND THE HUMMINGBIRD

Coyote thought he knew more than anyone; but the hummingbird knew more. Then
Coyote wanted to kill him. He caught him, struck him, and mashed him entirely.
Then he went off. The hummingbird came to life, flew up, and cried: "Lakun,
dead," in mockery. Coyote caught him, made a fire, and put him in. He and his people
had gone only a little way when the hummingbird flew by crying: "Lakun!"
Coyote said: "How shall I kill him?" They told him: "The only way is for you to eat
him." Then Coyote swallowed him. The hummingbird scratched him inside. Coyote
said: "What shall I do? I shall die." They said: "You must let him out by
defecating." Then Coyote let him out and the hummingbird flew up crying: "Lakun!"



RUMSIEN COSTANOAN. COYOTE AND HIS WIFE

Makewiks is an animal that lives in the ocean and sometimes comes to the
surface. Coyote went to the ocean with his wife. He told her not to be afraid. He
told her about the sea lion, about the mussels, about the crabs, and the octopus.
He told her that all these were relatives; so when she saw them she was not
afraid. But he did not tell her about the makewiks. Then when this rose before her
it frightened her so that she fell dead. Coyote took her on his back, carried
her off, built a fire, and laid her by the side of it. He began to sing and
dance and jump. Soon she began to come to life. He jumped three times and brought
her to life.

RUMSIEN COSTANOAN. COYOTE AND HIS CHILDREN

Coyote killed salmon and put them into the ashes to roast. He did not want his
children to eat them. Therefore he pretended that they where only ashes. Once
in a while he reached into the ashes, took a piece, and ate it. Then his
children cried out that he was eating fire and would be burned. When they wanted to
take some, he did not let them. He said: "You will be burned."

RUMSIEN COSTANOAN. COYOTE WITH A THORN IN HIS EYE

Coyote came to some women and asked them to pull out a thorn from his eye.
There was only a little stick which he held in place with his eyelid. At first they
distrusted him. He selected the most beautiful; "You draw it out," he sang.
When she was about to take it with her fingers, he said: "No, take hold of it
with your teeth." He said this so that he might seize her. When she took hold of
the little stick he seized her and ran off with her. His song:

Meneya doñ kac op ka yapunnin, you ( ?) me pull-out my thorn!





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POHONICHI MIWOK. THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD
Told among the Chukchansi Yokuts.

Before there were people there was only water everywhere. Coyote looked among,
the ducks and sent a certain species (Chukchansi: yimeit) to dive. It first it
said it was unable to. Then it went down. It reached the bottom, bit the earth,
and came up again. Coyote took the earth from it and sent it for chanit
(Yokuts name) seeds. When the duck brought these he mixed them with the earth and
water. Then the mixture swelled until the water had disappeared. The earth was
there.

POHONICHI MIWOK. THE THEFT OF FIRE

Told among the Chukchansi Yokuts.

At first there was no fire. The turtle had it all. He sat on it and covered it
up. He lived far up in the east in the mountains. Coyote went to that place. He
lay down like a piece of wood. The people who lived there came by and saw him.
"I am going to take this piece of wood," they said. They took him home and put
him in the fire. Coyote tried to get into the fire under the turtle. The
turtle said'. "Stop pushing me." Now Coyote got some of the fire. Then he ran
down-hill with it westward into this country, where then there was no fire and it was
cold. He caught a quail and with its fat he made his fire blaze up. Now the
people first all became warm. The Mono (Shoshoneans) were far back up in the
hills; the Chukchansi (Yokuts) in the middle; the Pohonichi (Miwok) were the ones
who received the fire. Coyote was one of them. That is why the Mono cannot speak
well; it is too cold where they live.

Coyote made the eagle the chief of the people. They enjoyed themselves and made
dances. They were warm now because they had fire. They lived well. They wore
no clothes. Some men wore a blanket of rabbit skins or of deer skin; others wore
nothing. They used hollow stones to cook in, made of soft red stone. The eagle
told them: "Go out and catch rabbits," and then they caught rabbits to eat. To
get salt they went beyond the North Fork of the San Joaquin.

POHONICHI MIWOK. THE ORIGIN OF DEATH

Told among the Chukchansi Yokuts.

When the first person died Coyote was south of him, the meadow-lark to the
north. Now the dead person began to stink. The meadow-lark smelled it. He did not
like it. Coyote said: "I think I will make him get up. The meadow-lark said:
"No, do not. There will be too many. They will become so many that they will eat
each other." Coyote said: "That is nothing. I do not like people to die." But
the meadow-lark told him: "No, it is not well to have too many. There will be
others instead of those that die. A man will have many children. The old people
will die but the young will live." Then Coyote said nothing more. So from that
time on people have always died. Coyote said: "It will be best to put them into
the fire." And so the dead were burned.

POHONICHI MIWOK. THE BEAR AND DEER CHILDREN

Told among the Chukchansi Yokuts.

The thunders were two boys with supernatural powers. Their mother was the deer.
The grizzly bear also had two children. The two women went to the creek
looking for clover (Chukchansi: malich). Now they loused each other. Then the bear
bit the back of the deer's neck and killed her. The two deer-children made a
little sweat-house. After the bear had killed and eaten their mother, they killed
the two bear-children in this sweathouse with fire. Then they struck the ground
and made a noise and fled to their grandfather. He was powerful and had a large
sweat-house. The bear pursued them. She had nearly caught them when they
escaped into the sweat house. The bear put in her head looking for them. Her hind
legs were still outside. The boys' grandfather had supernatural powers with fire;
his amulet was a white rock at the top of the house. When all the bear's body
except her hind legs was in the house as she looked about for the two boys, the
white fire-rock entered her anus and burned her to death inside. Then the two
young deer became thunders. After awhile they also had supernatural powers.
They made so much noise in the house that their grandfather was afraid. They went
up above, where they still are. The Miwok of Yosemite also state that the
thunders are two boys who were deer. They control snow and rain.

The half-Chukchansi from whom the Pohonichi tales just given were obtained did
not seem to know any story of the stealing of the sun, of a hero who is dug out
of the ground as a child, and of a contest between the coyote and the lizard
determining the shape of the human hand.