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From: mamthesonak  (Original Message)Sent: 3/3/2005 10:37 PM

STEP 4<O:P> </O:P><O:P>  </O:P>

Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

Doing this step I can  write honestly, it  made me realise why I had suffered, and what the cause of that suffering was!<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

Moral means; " A standard".  So I had to look at my standards for myself, and the standards I had set other people (THE CAUSE OF SO MUCH RESENTMENT).<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

My sponsor suggested that I list all of my guilt?s, resentments, fears and sexual conduct because between these I would find the cause of my  emotional pain or spiritual dis-ease, call it what you will.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

Why do this step?Well, if you are a product of your past and you are unhappy now, then something has gone wrong in the past!If you have spent, drank, used drugs, eaten to get away from bad feelings, then it is suggested you look at the cause of these bad feelings.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

There is a clich頴hat says, ?The straw that broke the camels back?.  Well, taking a fearless moral inventory takes straws off our backs; it makes life less of a burden.  It lightens the load!<O:P>. </O:P><O:P></O:P>

When you are full of resentment it is like farting, everyone close to you gets a whiff!.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

But when you are on a spiritual path it is like wearing a lovely perfume, everyone close to you gets a whiff!.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

The idea of a fearless moral inventory is to start to see what is in our character that causes triggers for resentment, guilt, and fear from other people to us or us to other people.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

It is about learning not to over react!A word that flies off the tongue is like an arrow leaving a bow for a target!.

If you are an angry or resentful person then the following list of defects of character are the cause of your pain!.  Without these defects you will have peace of mind!.

Simple!Learn the cause and effect, and then learn to practice opposites, result peace of mind; and that is what it is all about.  Practice opposites. <O:P></O:P><O:P></O:P>

The following defects are the cause of resentment, anger and hatred. Anger is not a defect of character.  If someone attacks you, you have to be angry to save your life!. But if your anger is caused by one of the following defects of character, then that is self-righteous anger which means that we will always suffer, until we see the true cause of our Dis-ease.<O:P> </O:P><O:P>For Books About Step 4 Click here</O:P>

THE CAUSE OF SUFFERING OR DEFECTS OF CHARACTER.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

PRIDE ? HIGH OPINION OF ONES OWN QUALITIES, MERITS OR CONDUCT.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

Does pride stop you saying sorry, or asking for help?

Does your pride say ?The best way not to fail, is not to try??<O:P> </O:P>

A prisoner of peoples opinions that can lead us to overreact, or not to do anything because of ?what will people will think?.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

Healthy price, makes us act in a way that is caring to ourselves and other people.  It is a good sense of well being knowing that you have tried your best (you may of even failed, but you tried!).

IMPATIENCE ?                                      Not enduring!.  Wanting everything now.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

HEALTHY IMPATIENCE ?                     When your sick of being the way you are! And want to change now!<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

INTOLERANCE ?                                   Not able to endure opinions, beliefs, or actions.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

HEALTHY INTOLERANCE ?             When your endurance of your habit, drinking, taking drugs or letting people walk all over you stops!<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

ENVY ?                                                Resentful of more fortunate people.  Their health, looks, intelligence or ways.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

HEALTHY ENVY ?                                    When it turns to admiration!<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

JEALOUSY ?                                        The fear of being out done, suspicious, dislike of someone who you see as better than you, wealthy, women, looks.  The fear of being replaced by another!  Seeing people as rivals.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

HEALTHY JEALOUSY -            Makes you treat people well!, or they will go elsewhere.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

SELFISHNESS -             Doing your own desires or interests without caring how it effects other peoples emotions or life.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

HEALTHY SELFISHNESS -             Doing what?s best for you!  Not being a prisoner of peoples opinions.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

SELF-PITY -                                          A feeling of being hard done by!Poor me.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

HEALTHY SELF PITY -             ?People have hurt me, people have used me, people have stolen from me, people have abused me, but I am not going to resent, I am going to enjoy life and learn from the experience of the past".<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

SELF-CENTEREDNESS -            Pre-occupied with your own ways and actions, not caring about other people.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

HEALTHY SELF<O:P> </O:P>

CENTEREDNESS -             When you stop being a door mat, and stand up for what is right for you!<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

ARROGANCE -             I am right and you are wrong!  Tending never to listen, but to argue, and to believe that you are always right.  What is an argument?  A billion ways to say ?I am right and you are wrong?.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

HEALTHY ARROGANCE -             What you think of me does not matter, humility when you think, ?Does it matter??.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

SLOTH -                                                Slow or absence of activity.  When actions should be done.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

HEALTHY SLOTH -             Taking time out of the rat race and relaxing, meditating, contemplating!<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

DISHONESTY -             DECEITFULNESS, FRAUDULENT, LACK OF HONOUR (before you resent, ask, ?Have I ever done anything similar in my life for what I am going to resent that person for??)<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

HEALTHY DISHONESTY -             Is when a friend says ?Do you think that I am fat and ugly?? and you say ?No!?, even though you know different.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

LUST -                                                  Animal desire for sexual indulgence!. To want passionately.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

HEALTHY LUST -             I want peace of mind, I want to live a blameless life!.  Or a romantic weekend.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

GREED -                                               To want more than is needed.<O:P> </O:P><O:P></O:P>

HEALTHY GREED -             To have peace of mind, and to then want more.<O:P> </O:P>

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INTO ACTION<O:P> </O:P>

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It is best to start with listing your resentments, my sponsor suggested to do it this way.  List each resentment separately, never write the word "and" (between each resentment) because it is another resentment.<O:P> </O:P>

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