MSN Home  |  My MSN  |  Hotmail
Sign in to Windows Live ID Web Search:   
go to MSNGroups 
Free Forum Hosting
 
Important Announcement Important Announcement
The MSN Groups service will close in February 2009. You can move your group to Multiply, MSN’s partner for online groups. Learn More
Betwixt the Sea and Sky[email protected] 
  
What's New
  
  Messages and Momentos  
  General  
  Discussions  
  Fun & Games  
  World Care  
  Pictures  
  The Gallery  
  ï¿½?Fetch �?/A>  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Treasure Box  
  Bards Bench  
  Sound Waves  
  Inspirations  
  Prayers & Wishes  
  Family Life  
  Smiles  
  Kith & Kin  
  Bards Bench  
  Workshop  
  Recipe & Remedy  
  Documents  
  Betwixt's Own  
  Betwixt's Pick  
  Bars and Banners  
  Backgrounds  
  Gifts  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Kith & Kin  
  Parenting Links  
  Well Wishes  
  Amber Alert  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Wheel of the Year  
  Metals  
  Tree Magic  
  Stones & Gems  
  Animal Lore  
  The Winds  
  Earth Energy  
  Moon Phases  
  Red Hill Valley  
  Kids Stuff  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Library  
  The Bookstand  
  Study Hall  
  Tales & Legends  
  Pathways  
  The Occult  
  Pagan Nomads Dictionary  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Nature's Realm  
  Herbal Applications  
  Herbal Safety  
  Witches Pharmacopoeia  
  Wild Herbs  
  The Healers Nook  
  Weed Wanderings  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Common Ground  
  Religion ~ Timeline  
  Golden Rules  
  Religion of Magic  
  Emergence  
  Eco~Spirituality  
  Pantheism  
  Sacred Shapes  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Chakras  
  Meditation  
  Auras  
  Colour  
  Astral  
  Past Lives  
  Life Forces  
  Reiki  
  Labyrinths  
  Stuff of Dreams  
  Dream Time  
  Lucid Dreams  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Covenant of Peace  
  Desiderata  
  The 3 Worlds  
  The Red Road  
  Yin Yang  
  Warrior's Path  
  Chivalry  
  Brehon Law  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Spirit Realm  
  Apparitions  
  Things that go Bump  
  Haunted  
  Mirror ~ Mirror  
  Spiral Staircase  
  â˜¼â‚ª �?�?�?�?�?/A>  
  Divination  
  Rune Lore  
  Numerology  
  A few last words...  
  ï¿½?± �?± �?± �?/A>  
  Community Posts  
  Phoenix  
  Re R.Phx  
  Hawk's Own  
  Mah Jongg  
  Badger's  
  Wanduring's  
  Nymph's  
  Fernmeadow's  
  Sidhabhair's  
  
  
  Tools  
 
Spiral Staircase : The Shadow People
Choose another message board
 
     
Reply
(1 recommendation so far) Message 1 of 4 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameLeila137601  (Original Message)Sent: 7/20/2004 7:55 PM
Shadow People
Did you see that dark, fleeting shape out of the corner of your eye? Perhaps you caught a glimpse of a strange entity that is being seen with greater regularity around the world.

"What was that?" You were sitting comfortably on your sofa reading the latest issue of Fortean Times in the dim light when movement across the room caught your attention. It seemed dark and shadowy, but there was nothing there. You returned to your reading - and a moment later there it was again. You looked up quickly this time and saw the fleeting but distinctly human shape of the shadow pass quickly over the far wall... and disappear.

What was that? Some natural shadow? Your heightened imagination? A ghost? Or was it something that seems to be a spreading phenomenon - apparitions that are coming to be known as "shadow people" or "shadow beings." Perhaps this is an old phenomenon with a new name that is now being discussed more openly, in part thanks to the Internet. Or maybe it's a phenomenon that, for some reason, is manifesting with greater frequency and intensity now.

Those who are experiencing and studying the shadow people phenomenon say that these entities almost always used to be seen out of the corner of the eye and very briefly. But more and more, people are beginning to see them straight on and for longer periods of time. Some experiencers testify that they have even seen eyes, usually red, on these shadow beings.

The mysterious sightings have become a hot topic of conversion in paranormal chat rooms, message boards and websites, and it was given widespread attention on The Art Bell talk radio show. Art's listeners even submitted their drawings of how they perceived these beings, and they can be seen in a haunting gallery on Art's site.

What are shadow people and where do they come from? Several theories have been offered.

The Imagination
The explanation we get from skeptics and mainstream science - and who are usually people who have never experienced the shadow people phenomenon - is that it is nothing more than the active human imagination. It's our minds playing tricks on us... our eyes seeing things in a fraction of a second that aren't really there - illusions... real shadows caused by passing auto headlights, or some similar explanation. And without a doubt, these explanations probably can account for some if not many experiences. The human eye and mind are easily fooled. But can they account for all cases?

Ghosts
To call these entities ghosts demands first a definition of what we mean by ghosts. (See the article: "Ghosts: What Are They?") But by almost any definition, shadow people are somewhat different than ghost phenomena. Whereas ghost apparitions are almost always a misty white, vaporish or have a decidedly human form and appearance (very often with discernable "clothing"), shadow beings are much darker and more shadow-like. In general, although the shadow people often do have a human outline or shape, because they are dark, the details of their appearance is lacking. This is in contrast to many ghost sightings in which the witness can describe the ghost's facial features, style of clothing and other details. The one detail most often noted in some shadow being sightings are their glowing red eyes.

Demons or Other Spirit Entities
The dark countenance and malevolent feelings that are often reported in association with these creatures has led some researchers to speculate that they may be demonic in nature. If they are demons, we have to wonder what their purpose or intent is in letting themselves be seen in this manner. Is it merely to frighten?

Astral Bodies
One interesting idea suggests that shadow people are the shadows or essences of people who are having out-of-body experiences. According to Jerry Gross, an author, lecturer and teacher about astral travel, we all travel out of the body when we are asleep. Perhaps, this theory says, we are seeing the ephemeral astral bodies of these twilight travelers.

Time Travelers
People from our own future, another idea states, could have found the means to travel to the past - our time. However they are able to accomplish this incredible feat, perhaps in that state they appear to us merely as passing shadows as they observe the events of our timeline. 

Interdimensional Beings
Even mainstream science is fairly convinced that there are dimensions other than the three we inhabit. And if these other dimensions exist, who or what (if anything) inhabits them? Some theorists say that these dimensions exist parallel and very close to our own, although invisible to us. And if there are inhabitants in these other dimensions, it is possible that they have found a way to intrude on our dimension and become, at least partially, visible? If so, they could very well appear as shadows. It has long been held by psychics and other sensitives that beings on other planes of existence are of different "vibrations." Science is beginning to look at reality, on a quantum level, in the same way - that particles of the smallest size exist as vibrations. Perhaps, some theorize, the vibrations of our existence are beginning to mesh with those of another dimension, which accounts for the increase in such phenomena as ghosts, shadow people and possibly aliens.

Aliens
The alien and abduction phenomena are so bizarre that it's no surprise that extraterrestrials are suspects as the shadow people. Abductees have reported in many cases that the alien grays seem to be able to pass through walls and closed windows, and to appear and disappear abruptly, among other otherworldly talents. Perhaps, too, they can go about their alien agenda disguised in the shadows.

There's a good deal of overlapping among the above ideas, of course. Aliens and ghosts could be interdimensional beings, or aliens could be time travelers - and some believe demons are responsible for all of these disturbing phenomena.

There is no way to prove or disprove any theories about a phenomenon that is so mysterious, that happens so quickly and without warning. Science finds it virtually impossible to catalog or study such phenomena in any methodical way. All we can do, at present, is to document personal experiences and try to piece together what the shadow people phenomenon might be. Perhaps it's an old mystery becoming more recognizable... perhaps it represents a doorway to and from different planes of existence... or perhaps it's just shadows.  

 

http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa022502a.htm



First  Previous  2-4 of 4  Next  Last 
Reply
 Message 2 of 4 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname»®ed«·»Ph¤enïX«Sent: 7/21/2004 5:28 PM
 Having experienced this oddity myself, I too have speculated as to what I have seen and felt. I don't believe its my imagination since other factors have occassionally played out in sequences and I'm not given to fabricating images out of thin air. Most, if not all occurances have happened when I have been fully awake and engaged in rational things... cooking dinner, talking on the phone, working on the computer ... however, there have been a few instances when I have woken up in the middle of the night, opened my eyes and watched something walk across my room or down the hall.
 
I wasn't able to bring up the gallery page linked here, I was curious as to what others have seen. For me its always been a large man shape about between 5'10 and 6 feet tall, normal build. Thankfully, I can say no red glowing eyes ... but there is always the distinct sensation of being watched ... unless its moving, then I don't get that impression.
 
I would love to know what these things are and whats their purpose ... is there a way to communicate with them?

Reply
 Message 3 of 4 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameLeila137601Sent: 7/22/2004 7:42 AM

 

Hey Red,

I came across this article sometime back but couldn't remember where until I came upon it again this week...  Th experiences you've mentioned immediately came to mind. 

I found the mention of the possibility that shadow people could be either astral travellers or even time travellers pretty intriguing!  Do you think the individual you've seen (the large man) could be someone in astral?  If it is someone in AP, I wonder if he is aware you've noticed him.  I am quite sure your pyschic sensitivity allows you to notice him whereas with other people they would be oblivious to his presence.  Have you tried any telepathic communication with him when you've noticed him about?

(By the way, I'm glad he doesn't have red eyes! I think I'd find that more than a little unnerving!)

Leila

 


Reply
 Message 4 of 4 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname»®ed«·»Ph¤enïX«Sent: 5/14/2008 3:33 AM
Shadow people creep me out. I've been seeing them around lately - about 2-3 weeks, just flashes of shadow.
 
see what ya get when you play with mirrors, hmm

First  Previous  2-4 of 4  Next  Last 
Return to Spiral Staircase