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From: MSN Nickname»®ed«·»Ph¤enïX«  (Original Message)Sent: 5/6/2004 6:41 PM
Have you ever attempted a past life regression? I did about a year ago, it seemed uneventful ... nothing like the stories you hear of these amazing people and places, but it was still a mind expanding experience.
 
 Well I thought I had forgotten much of it but I find myself over the last 3-5 days seeing it over and over again either replayed in full or pieces of it ...makes me wonder whats up. Not that I don't trust my pysche, its just that I know it has a mind of its own (lol pardon the turn of phrase) and occassionally digs something up, plays with it then promptly loses it before I know just what the heck is going on in there. I'm one of those folks that think that things tend to happen for a reason, true coincidences are scary but synchronicity is a beautiful thing..
 
I'm curious to know how many of you have had regression experiences? and whether or not they had any real impact on you.
 
I'm making a distinction between past life memory and the act of regression, though I'm not sure if I should. You see, this regression that I keep reviewing is distinctly different from the gut-wrenching panic I experience watching a boat sink.
 
I have never watched the movie Titanic and I never will ... the thought creates such a bad reaction for me that I simply don't want to go that route (I'm not into the cheap thrill of making myself sick from fright) Its not just the Titanic ... I once watched a National Geographic about this warship that was being sent to a watery grave with full honours to become part of a coral reef system. The ship was empty and the attending crews and personages were celebrating the illustrious past & future of this ship... no big deal, it seemed. Well the moment that ship started to sink I thought I was going to have a heart-attack... my chest hurt so bad I couldn't breath ... then the shakes and anxiety set in. I had to leave the room. There are more of these kind of experiences that revolve around open water and boats and these I chalk up to a past life memory because there is no reason at all for this reaction in this life.
 
Anyways, I digress ... this regression I keep seeing is different in the sense that it doesn't have the physical reaction the 'memory' does. Is there a real difference between them?  After all there is no cookie cut-outs for experiencing these things. Any opinions on this subject?
 

 


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From: MSN Nicknameimbas1Sent: 5/6/2004 8:12 PM
Why of course there are opinions on this subject!!
I became interested in this subject many years back. I've had it done twice, and enjoyed it both times. Between the two, there were 4 scenarios, three of which were identifiable, and one which, I have no clue, but believe it may have been either between lives, another planet, or a place not recorded in our history. In all cases, they were pleasurable to look back on and were mostly scrap moments. Some explained things, some didn't. I had told my parents of a previous lifetime experience riding a train when I was 4, (you can bet that freaked them out) and I wanted to know more about that one, which did come through. A colonial land surveyour experience explaned my draw to this area and my familiarity with the forest here. A brief feeling of being a servant to someone named Nigel, and a very bright white place, with toga type wear and multiple discussion groups going on, everything was white, ( that's the strange one) I've also know someone who was able to recognize me from another time, which unfortunately was not very pleasant for her, would not speak much about it. Mostly afterwards, I just felt satisfied. No more curiousity, as if my mind just said, of course there were previous lives, and moved on.
 
As to your situation, if I were to guess, something that came up before in another life is useful to you now. Perhaps as a warning, or as a experience you've already dealt with. I would think it may be helpful to meditate on that. As far as the ship sinking, a good regressor should be able to let you see that while keeping you from feeling the panic. I imagine that type of death would be one of the most tramatic and hard to forget.

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From: MSN NicknameLeila137601Sent: 5/7/2004 9:51 AM

 

Hi Red,

I am another who has undergone past life regression. From the time I was very young I was continuing having deja vu flashbacks. Just momentarily fleeting snippets of memories, feelings, fears, etc. of times and people and places I was not not at all familiar with in this lifetime. These moments would be triggered by what seemed insignificant things...drawings or a story or even a word.  Anyhow, when I came in to my early teens and began my spiritual exploration beyond the church walls I'd grown up behind, I learned about reincarnation.  My primary introduction was a book by the same name by Edgar Cayce. And wow, the subject resounded with me so intensely and began helping me make sense of those flashes of mine.  Then some years later, I think just before I began university, I had a chance encounter with a lady who did past life regression.  There was no way I was going to pass by such an opportunity! It was, as you well said, a mind expanding experience!  The previous existances she guided me to and through felt like threads from the past interwoven into the tapestry of the present...and in truth, I'd say, thats what they are, aren't they?

Sheesh, Red, reading of your reaction to things like the movie Titanic and programs related to water and boats sinking sounds quite you have a very physical and intense memory of such an event in a previous life. I don't know there to be another explanation for the way it makes you feel.  To second Imbas, I think the trauma of such an experience would stay with you for sometime.  By the way, you may  find some of the exercises on this website helpful: http://www.healpastlives.com/future/exercise/indxhsex.htm I've printed out a few of them over time and found them to be of much aid.

Blessings,

Leila

 

 

 


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From: MSN Nickname»®ed«·»Ph¤enïX«Sent: 5/8/2004 2:44 PM
Funny thing is... the boat thing doesn't bother me per'se. Like you I long concluded that it was a past life memory, perhaps even the previous one of a traumatic death experience. So I've come to no longer be surprised by this gut reaction, instead I try to work my way past it... by going boating (very short trips) or swimming (though its hard and not always enjoyable). No need to let the past crimp the enjoyment of today.
 
What keeps playing through my mind is this ...
 
After relaxing into deep meditation I was mentally walked into a deeper state by using the crystal colour method. It seemed to take a long time for me to do this, immersing myself completely in colour and moving into the next until finally there was nothing but a pulsating darkness.
 
I heard a quiet voice tell me to open my eyes. I saw an Eye of Horus appear, felt the sensation of a blink and 'opening' (hard to describe that). I was looking to my left and noticed a pale line glowed in serpentine curves. I moved closer. It was a line of colourless people ... as though they were made of lightly frosted glass ... all ages, shapes and sizes from various era's of history, but mostly the 20 th century.  For the most part they waited in line like people do... some talking most standing in their own thoughts.  I scan towards the right wanting to see where they were going ... the line appeared to end at a doorway, but I couldn't see what was in it. As I tried to look closer at the door a new figure appeared. A grey man almost androgynous, hairless and naked (like something out of hellraiser or something) with pupil-less eyes. In this experience I knew without a shadow of a doubt that he was looking for me and I did not want him to look at me, it was as though I knew something (as yet undefined) but terrible would happen if he saw me.
 
I heard the same voice from earlier telling me to relax. I closed my eyes ... All I wanted was to be out of that space, my curiousity about the people forgotten. I then heard the sound of waves and opened my eyes to find myself standing on a long and empty shore ... nothing but me, sand, rocks and a sea rolling in on knee-deep waves. No other sound and at first it was in a grey monochrome scale, but as I stood there the colours deepened. Again I looked at my surroundings from left to right. On my right, just behind me was a door like a temple front carved into the rock wall of a towering cliff. It looked greek but felt older. The triangular cap had carvings on them I couldn't quite make out... two steps leading upward into the dim recess.
 
I found myself on the steps walking through the door. At first it seemed like rough hewn rock but it quickly smoothed into a light coloured marble like surface. As I walked this hall (felt like it went on forever) I was aware that I had changed appearence ... I noticed it because I could feel a heavy weight across my chest from shoulder to shoulder like an eygptian collar and though I was genderless (to the best of my knowledge) I was aware of two smaller entities walking beside me .. they felt like a young girl and boy, though I couldn't see them ... one on each side. Still I walked and walked until the hall started to change and I was alone. The hall stretched before me like an old celtic abbey walkway... with ornate stone arched windows on either side. I passed the first set of windows which held only a grey mist ... I could see dozens of windows stretching into the distance... it was at this point that I was called back and the vision disolved.
 
This is what I has been in my mind this past week for no apparent reason. Last night I tried to reach the same state on my own, and although unsuccessful I was able to work in the same crystal colour method... simply couldn't get past that point. Can this be considered a regression or something else?

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From: MSN NicknameÑÿmþhSent: 5/10/2004 5:53 PM
I've been regressed and helped others to regress themselves acting as a guide somewhere inbetween  the regression yet prefectly aware of the present state of the outside world. Sounds like you have unresolved business on the other plane Red. Considering the length of time that has passed since your regression I find it extremely curious that this should come to you now during a crisis of faith......hmmmmm.... Well luv we shall speak soon.  
 
 

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From: MSN Nicknameimbas1Sent: 5/10/2004 8:13 PM
Hey Red, You're experience is unlike anything I've ever heard, and more than any regression normally gets, that I've heard. It's quite a story line though, and possibly like a dream, has symbolism meanings. I wonder if you were to write this down, adding detail, in the manner of writing a book, whether you would get any further or gain any more meaning. Sounds like to me you have something which could have to do with the colonization of this world, something way back.....

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From: MSN NicknameÇâlâís•ÑøxSent: 5/11/2004 12:32 AM
Namaste Red...
 
I agree with Nymph. I think that it is almost certainly connected to the crisis of faith you're experiencing.
 
Personally, I've had some regressions. They've come about in four ways--spontaneous memory recall with a particular person I am very close too and have experienced many lives with (sometimes being guided by that person and sometimes guiding that person...usually together though), random recall during meditation or intense energy exchange, dream, or of an actual attempt on my part to recall. Every one experiences these things uniquely. For example, I will share a quite lucid and comprehensible memory I had. That's rare for me...usually it's a complicated jumble.
 
There is one mortal life that haunts me to this day. I have this obsession with 39...not necessarily the number thirty-nine but the numbers three and nine together. I am constantly aware of it and see it in many things. I always assumed it was one of my weird little OCD things. Then I had a dream...it was rather more than that. Like a vision while sleeping because I was unable to wake myself up from it. I was lucid but unable to control it because the events I was dreaming "had happened a certain way and could not be changed".
 
I was an old man working feverishly on some strange machine of metal and crystal and wires and energy and all manner of things. There were infinitely complex mathematical blueprints everywhere. I was sick and was going to die soon and knew that everything rested on my completing this machine. Beore I could do it, three men came in--officials of some sort, guards, polititcians dragging me away, telling me I was mad and raving and needed to return to my sick bed. They were young and stronger than me so I couldn't break free. They didn't want me to complete the machine, the "government" didn't want me to complete it. I had spent my entire life building this and was so close to completion but they didn't let me finish it. The entire machine was centered around the numbers 3 and 9 and was going to do so much good it was going to prevent something horrible from happening.
 
I woke up with the whole plan in my head but it faded away almost instantly. I am absolutely horrible at math. The most complex math I can do is long division. It was one of the most frustrating experiences in my life to not be able to understand the calculations I knew in my dream only moments early. I never got to finish my machine and it haunts me to this day. It's been suggested to me by my most trusted that that life took place in Atlantis.
 
I can say I have had similar experiences to yours. Similar on a very subtle level that is difficult to explain but also very different too.
 
When these memories come to us, they are couched in symbolism. I believe that certain things that happen on the other side of the veil simply cannot be processed correctly by the human mind because we have no frame of reference--like trying to explain the internet to a neanderthal--or because it would quite simply drive us mad.
 
The two sides (of the veil) can act as a mirror to each other so, where as tying to understand some things seen in the astral or during meditation fully can be impossible, recalling lives spent on Earth through the vehicle of astral or meditation can be difficult. They can get muddled simply because the mechanics there are so wholly different. It may be tricky.
 
I feel that when seeking out specific information from the other side, the best way is to choose one method and to do it repeatedly. Watch for connecting ties and similarities and watch your mundane life for "signs".
 
In my experience, these confusing memories, that are most often experienced in meditation or astral are memories of very, very great age or memories of a dual existence--the source of the jumble being that the person who's memories these are is not dead and is sharing your soul; is You for all intents and purposes. The best way to get to the core of these things is to keep trying and dig deeper.
 
The Universe definitely has a message for you. It tends to come along and smack us over the head when we start feeling especially "human"...lol.
 
Good luck.
 
In Shadow and Light...

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From: MSN Nickname»®ed«·»Ph¤enïX«Sent: 5/11/2004 4:04 AM
Perhaps I am indeed being particularly 'human'... because I am missing whatever message may be hidden in there... or at least ... I'm not sure... Geez, lol. I do think... and this is pure hunch (speculation) that what I saw was a kind of 'between' place... not an actual reincarnation...perhaps more of a transmigration. I hope to attempt another guided regression within the month ... but until then I'll be meditating on this because obviously there is no guarentee for the next round.
 
On the past life note... When my daughter was just beginning to talk and communicate ideas, she told me some of the oddest things. Told me why she didn't like bridges, how I was the best choice she made, about the friend that came with her but took no body, how her last home was always cold with lots of ice, all manner of things that left me mesmerized... and now? She doesn't seem to remember a thing.
 
I was thinking about a post that Leila brought us... about karmic families. How our souls gravitate together as a family for purpose (not always pleasant) or shared lesson and I thought of a strange thing about my own kin. My mother has a horrific fear of 'whats under the water' says she has always had dreams of things eating her alive from under the water  as in from a shipwreck. My sister was born terrified of water... she was bathed in the kitchen sink until she was 6 and would have hysterics and go into shock (she had a heart condition) when she was a toddler when put in anything bigger then a wash tub... and me? well theres the sinking boat thing... However, my daughter is a water baby... loves it :o) ... I'd like to talk to them about it but they tend to give me that 2-headed look when I start digging and examining such things that might concern them, lol Last time I brought it up, my mom thought it nothing more then an interesting coincidence... Hmmm
 
ANYways, bright blessings ...
Red

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From: MSN Nicknameimbas1Sent: 5/11/2004 11:49 AM
Nox, you should explore your memory more too. One word keeps coming to me, alchemy, 3s, 9s, always were thought to be powerful numbers. Red, your family experience makes logical sense. I've read of families that all pass tragically returning together to finish the experience. Your daughter would not necessarily be part of that team at all though. You and your sister may have been children with your mother the first time. And with your daughter telling you earlier that she was glad she picked you, it would seem to indicate that your daughter is a new member to your team. It is my belief that groups of friends or karmically connected souls reincarnate in similar time patterns. Since people all die at different ages, there could be a wide varience between the ages when reborn. Everyone has those people that they feel comfortable with immediately. But, I think the groups evolve as the souls do, and in doing so, new members are added or left behind. At some point perhaps we all come together again. On a related subject, that of soul mates, I think that it's entirely possible that one could have more than one soul mate, depending on multiple reincarnations, lessons learned, and such.
 
I think you both would do well to write your stories down, or at least keep telling them. I've heard, that sometimes you have to try on a lot of different words before you get past guessing, and into remembering...
 

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