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African Greys : Birdkeeping S.A. Style
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From: MSN NicknameScots101  (Original Message)Sent: 1/15/2008 5:47 PM

I've watched it twice and although it was enjoyable to watch there was the breeder who’s dialect I just could not follow...I complained to my sister who can understand him perfectly �?great, but she's met up with him often so it‘s easy for her...

I wish I could have had an Aviary as does he....Mr Vonk van Antwerpen and when I look at the list of subjects he spoke about ... dang it I need subtitles...lol

Anyway, getting to the mutations! It took only nine generations to get the all red bird CAG and they looked spectacular as did the white one's. (Early prints from the early 1800's show all white CAG's and the Red Factor's)... all of the generations had added red on the body and it seemed a total surprise when three chicks were full feathered red.

It seems as if those birds have been kept as pets even in Roman times... it's a wonder there are any left in the wild!

The vet, Dr Tommy Blunden had quite a bit to say on the plucker’s.. Blaming the caregivers who did not let the bird when weaning and in the early stages of it's life, learn to play alone. He vocalized all birds need free "time" daily away from humans and with other flock members (if there are others) if not alone time is important.

It also showed the SS procedure which takes next to no time and then the micro chipping again done in seconds. Avian vet was another criteria of importance, not a regular vet as they are not qualified to diagnose the exotic. And on and on…………�?.



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From: MSN NicknamedislaterSent: 1/15/2008 5:56 PM
I agree with the thoughts on plucking as Twiggy never had a moment alone as she was growing up.  She was always with or on one of us.   I'm sure we, especially I created the barbering part of her.  di

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From: MSN Nickname¨SHERRÝSent: 1/15/2008 6:02 PM
Does he give any advice for helping to curb the barbering?

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From: MSN NicknameScots101Sent: 1/15/2008 6:08 PM
I need to hear it again as come to think of it he did mention diet as he was mentioning the plucking....
Something I did like seeing was they bottle fed chicks.... no syringes for them, the natives had a plastic bottle, cut off the tip and all the babies were chugging it down. 
Seemingly this resembles nature and how a chick feeds from the parent bird..
I'll have to email Margaret and see if this is what she was trying to explain to me when I had the last clutch to feed..
When she said like the bottle we use to mix hair dye in to cover the grey... she was assuming a lot!!....

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From: MSN Nicknameannieokie100Sent: 1/15/2008 6:44 PM
I saw a young man at the vet's office the first time Diana went in and he was feeding a very young B&G with a baby bottle with the nipple cut short. Looked so strange. Then the vet asked me if Diana was bottle fed. Nope, she was fed with a 60 gauge syringe with a catheter tip which is very much like a big beak.
 
Ours have silicone O-rings which last for a long time. These with regular rings stick in no time.
Annie
 

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From: MSN NicknameScots101Sent: 1/15/2008 6:58 PM

The large aviary had the native workers using a bottle, plastic, probably help about 6-8' and the tip was exactly as they use in the salons to mix hair dye...

The chicks were chugging it down as there was no way to "squeeze" the mixture into the beak/crop.

Then they did also use the U shape spoon, sides bent up, on the older chicks... I use those and then the Dixie cups..

What I want to do is get his diet, and sprout as he did.

All he raises is CAG's and TAG's... beautiful healthy big birds...

I like the 60 gauge syringes, anything larger is far too big for me to use.

 


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From: MSN NicknameScots101Sent: 1/15/2008 8:21 PM
Did I just write 6-8 feet?
I wish I didn't live alone as I need someone to feel my forehead...
and was that help? instead of held... looks like I butchered that all the way around.

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From: MSN Nickname¨SHERRÝSent: 1/15/2008 8:29 PM
I know the person that had Kocham and Morgan fed them out, I don't know their ages when she finished or exactly how she fed them.
Kocham loves the spoon, he will dance a jig when he see me get it out of the cabinet.  I still feed him from the spoon.  He loves sweet potatoes or applesause mixed with formula.
Sherry:)

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From: MSN Nickname¨SHERRÝSent: 1/15/2008 8:31 PM
Scots!
I want some of what you are having!
LOL

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From: MSN NicknameScots101Sent: 1/15/2008 9:38 PM
No you don't Sherry!!
What I'm having is a senior moment and you'll get them soon enough..

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