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Law & Sabbath : The Law of Moses
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 7/13/2008 6:17 PM
Why is it called  THE LAW OF MOSES?  Is it God's Law?  or God's Commandments?  Let's study and see.
 

The Law of Moses

Jos 8:30 Then Joshua built an altar unto the LORD God of Israel in mount Ebal,

Jos 8:31 As Moses the servant of the LORD commanded the children of Israel, as it is written in the book of the law of Moses, an altar of whole stones, over which no man hath lift up any iron: and they offered thereon burnt offerings unto the LORD, and sacrificed peace offerings. J

os 8:32 And he wrote there upon the stones a copy of the law of Moses, which he wrote in the presence of the children of Israel.

Jos 8:33 And all Israel, and their elders, and officers, and their judges, stood on this side the ark and on that side before the priests the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, as well the stranger, as he that was born among them; half of them over against mount Gerizim, and half of them over against mount Ebal; as Moses the servant of the LORD had commanded before, that they should bless the people of Israel.

Jos 8:34 And afterward he read all the words of the law, the blessings and cursings, according to all that is written in the book of the law. Jos 8:35 There was not a word of all that Moses commanded, which Joshua read not before all the congregation of Israel, with the women, and the little ones, and the strangers that were conversant among them.



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/13/2008 6:20 PM

Jos 23:6 Be ye therefore very courageous to keep and to do all that is written in the book of the law of Moses, that ye turn not aside therefrom to the right hand or to the left;

Jos 23:7 That ye come not among these nations, these that remain among you; neither make mention of the name of their gods, nor cause to swear by them, neither serve them, nor bow yourselves unto them:

Do you, who claim to be keeping the law of Moses, make mention of ‘their�?gods? How about Santa Claus? Do you make mention of him? Honour him and his day?

How about easter bunnie. Do you make mention of this idol god? Do you honour him by doing the egg hunts and sunrise services? If so, why are you obeying the above Scripture?


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/13/2008 6:22 PM

1ki 2:3 And keep the charge of the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, to keep his statutes, and his commandments, and his judgments, and his testimonies, as it is written in the law of Moses, that thou mayest prosper in all that thou doest, and whithersoever thou turnest thyself:

Whose LAW are you keeping and teaching?


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/13/2008 6:24 PM

2ki 14:6 But the children of the murderers he slew not: according unto that which is written in the book of the law of Moses, wherein the LORD commanded, saying, The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, nor the children be put to death for the fathers; but every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

 

Just wanted to see how many times it is called the Law of MOSES.   Quite a few.  I am not getting them all.  but it is already established by more than the required three witnesses.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/13/2008 6:26 PM

2ki 23:25 And like unto him was there no king before him, that turned to the LORD with all his heart, and with all his soul, and with all his might, according to all the law of Moses; neither after him arose there any like him.

 

See, those Israelites who obeyed God, were actually keeping the LAW OF MOSES.  They did not have God's law, nor were they living by God's commandments, which is the entire word of God.

 

They were only going by that law of death, and wrath.  Obey, or die.  It is the law of sin and death.  it is the law of  Moses.

Jesus said, obey all the commandments which I have commanded you.  So we must go by the teaching of Jesus, not the law of Moses.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/13/2008 6:29 PM

2ch 23:18 Also Jehoiada appointed the offices of the house of the LORD by the hand of the priests the Levites, whom David had distributed in the house of the LORD, to offer the burnt offerings of the LORD, as it is written in the law of Moses, with rejoicing and with singing, as it was ordained by David.

 

This much Scripture proves that there is certainly a difference in the Laws of God, and the Law of Moses.

 

Wonder why adventist and others who are snared by this thing, have not taken some time to study this simple matter and prove this to themselves?  Guess it is the same reason the Jesus-only folks refuse to go to Scriptures, such as John 17 and study how we are  all  one.

It takes their false doctrine down to the ground, and this they do not want.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/13/2008 6:30 PM

2ch 30:16 And they stood in their place after their manner, according to the law of Moses the man of God: the priests sprinkled the blood, which they received of the hand of the Levites.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/13/2008 6:36 PM

Ezr 3:2 Then stood up Jeshua the son of Jozadak, and his brethren the priests, and Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, and his brethren, and builded the altar of the God of Israel, to offer burnt offerings thereon, as it is written in the law of Moses the man of God.

Ezr 7:6 This Ezra went up from Babylon; and he was a ready scribe in the law of Moses, which the LORD God of Israel had given: and the king granted him all his request, according to the hand of the LORD his God upon him

 

Ne 8:1 And all the people gathered themselves together as one man into the street that was before the water gate; and they spake unto Ezra the scribe to bring the book of the law of Moses, which the LORD had commanded to Israel.

Ah, we have a good one here. The law of Moses AND this: all the people gathered themselves together AS ONE MAN. Now the oneness folks need to deal with this one. All of them were as one man?

Da 9:11 Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him

Da 9:13 As it is written in the law of Moses, all this evil is come upon us: yet made we not our prayer before the LORD our God, that we might turn from our iniquities, and understand thy truth.

Mal 4:4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.

Now, study this.  Why is it always called the LAW OF MOSES?


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/13/2008 6:44 PM

Lu 2:22 And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord;

Lu 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Joh 7:23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?

Ac 13:38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:

Ac 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Ac 13:40 Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets;

Ac 13:41 Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.

Paul told the people above, that forgiveness of sin is through JESUS CHRIST. Then he made this astounding statement, FROM WHICH THEY COULD NOT BE JUSTIFIED BY THE LAW OF MOSES.

Why was despising and wondering and perishing her? Those who stayed in the darkness and error of that law of Moses, and did not come into Christ Jesus. God said, I work a work in your days, which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you. Paul was declaring it to them. They would not believe it.

I am declaring it to you. Yet most of you will never believe it. Justification is through Jesus Christ, NOT THE LAW OF MOSES.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/13/2008 6:54 PM

Ac 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

Ac 15:6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

Ac 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

Ac 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

Ac 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

Ac 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

Ac 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

Now it is crystal clear here, that Peter is calling that law of Moses the YOKE WHICH THEY COULD NOT BEAR.

Ac 15:19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:

Ac 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Ac 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

Ac 15:22 Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:

Ac 15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:

Ac 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:

Ac 15:25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,

Ac 15:26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Ac 15:27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.

Ac 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

..it seemed good to the Apostles and the Holy Ghost, not to lay that heavy burden upon them.

Ac 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Ac 15:30 So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the epistle:

Ac 15:31 Which when they had read, they rejoiced for the consolation.

Those saints of God rejoiced when they read this consolation --- what? That they were not to go back to keeping the Law of Moses, which was subverting their souls.

Now if this is not enough proof of this matter, then New Testament Christians are NOT UNDER THAT BONDAGE TO KEEP THE LAW OF MOSES, You just simply do not want any truth and prefer that bondage and darkness. So be it. I have taken up many days of my time to teach you this truth. If you do not want truth, go on in your darkness.

Jo Smith


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/17/2008 2:36 AM

Ro 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

(seems to be saying this is--why-- sin shall not have dominion over us---for-- we are not under law, but under grace.  see, those still under law,  sin has dominion over them.  great scripture.)

Ro 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

Twice in a row, this great apostles said,  we are NOT UNDER LAW,  but under grace.

Yet I am considered a real booger  because I see and teach this same great gospel!

Here is solid PROOF, to anyone who knows English.


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From: MSN NicknameTweety134Sent: 7/17/2008 8:47 AM
Freeborn,
When will the people read and understand and obey the WORD of GOD? I guess they think that it is of no importance..I guess people think that the Bible is a book made up of old wise tale and stories. They do not take it as real today.
 
But GOD changes for no one. So they have a choice. Just like Adam and Eve.
 
They have been blinded by lying priests, and lying women who think they were ABOVE GOD and HIS WORD (SHE-DEVIL). There are billions of people out there that do not know the WORD of GOD.  They have been mislead by man.
 
Even though Jesus said that we must search the scriptures. I guess people think that he did not know what he was saying. Again people must always put Jesus in an unfavorable light, to make man sound right.
 
I would suggest everyone read this and know that the Sabbaths are not for the NT church. It is as plain as day in the Bible. But God has blinded them to the truth.
And they continue in ignorance of GOD's WORD.
 
MSN was slow yesterday. Could hardly get on. 
 
Have a great day.
Tweety
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 7/13/2008 1:54 PM

Ac 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

Ac 15:6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.

Ac 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

Ac 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

Ac 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

Ac 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

Ac 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

Now it is crystal clear here, that Peter is calling that law of Moses the YOKE WHICH THEY COULD NOT BEAR.

Ac 15:19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:

Ac 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Ac 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

Ac 15:22 Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:

Ac 15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:

Ac 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:

Ac 15:25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,

Ac 15:26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Ac 15:27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.

Ac 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

..it seemed good to the Apostles and the Holy Ghost, not to lay that heavy burden upon them.

Ac 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Ac 15:30 So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the epistle:

Ac 15:31 Which when they had read, they rejoiced for the consolation.

Those saints of God rejoiced when they read this consolation --- what? That they were not to go back to keeping the Law of Moses, which was subverting their souls.

Now if this is not enough proof of this matter, then New Testament Christians are NOT UNDER THAT BONDAGE TO KEEP THE LAW OF MOSES, You just simply do not want any truth and prefer that bondage and darkness. So be it. I have taken up many days of my time to teach you this truth. If you do not want truth, go on in your darkness.

Jo Smith


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