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| I have never had a moments trouble understanding this beautiful language. Since childhood, I have heard people use this excuse to dodge this most truthful of all Books on earth, and even then, I wondered, Why would anyone have any trouble understanding what it says? Never did make any sense to me. Have you ever read and studied it? do you truly know it is in error, or is it just that you have been taught this? Did you discover the errors yourself? Did you try to search the Scriptures, as Jesus told us to do, to see if maybe you are misunderstanding and did not have the spiritual discernment to get what it was saying, and therefore thought you saw an error, when in acutality, it was just your lack of understanding the spiritual language of this glorious Book of God? Maybe that was your trouble, and the trouble with all others who do find the glory when they read it. I most certainly do not find any fault with it. I find the Glory. There is nothing hard to understand in its language, except the true spirituality of it. It brings salvation and joy, and feeds the soul. It shows us the truth of God and His Son, Jesus. It shows us how to be filled with the Holy Ghost, just as the Apostles were. It teaches us how to live a holy and Godly life and to inherit eternal life when this one ends. Do you have an education? If so, why do you find this simple language a problem to understand? It is most beautiful. and if you are interested in learning, stick around and I shall teach you....... then you too can find the joy, the glory, and eternal life at the end of the way. Jo | |
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It brings salvation and joy, and feeds the soul. It shows us the truth of God and His Son, Jesus. It shows us how to be filled with the Holy Ghost, just as the Apostles were. It teaches us how to live a holy and Godly life and to inherit eternal life when this one ends. Excellent! The KJV does this in spite of it's flaws, a real testimony to the power of God's word. Just imagine how much more is to be apprehended by the reader of the Bible who can clearly understand the contemporary English of a better translated Bible. | |
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| It is only the opinion of sinful man who says the Word of God is full of flaws. You are not in a position to KNOW THIS FOR A FACT. and neither are any others who claim this lie. Why should I accept your word for this, and deny God's Word, which has been my joy and salvation all of my life. THERE IS NO BETTER TRANSLATED BIBLE. that is YOUR opinion and it is not correct. There is not one single thing in God's Word which fits any catholic church, and that is why you deceived people fight it so hard. But be warned, It will cost you your soul. | |
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| WHoa! Let's not get steamed over this! IT is entitled to his opinion just as much as you are, Freeborn. The King James version is good, but there are better renditions based upon Apostolic Teaching and expert Bible scholars. |
P.s. this is from a catholic who came in here trying to tear down our truth and love of the pure Word of God. |
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| There is not one single thing in God's Word which fits any catholic church, and that is why you deceived people fight it so hard. Um, we believe in Jesus Christ as the Savior of the World, the Incarnate Son of God, born of a virgin, crucified, died and was buried, who rose from the dead and ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of God, the Father almighty. You know... the Apostles Creed. That's what we believe....all biblical and apostolic so you are in error concerning your above comment. We fight for the Truth, because Jesus IS the Way, the Truth, and the Light. The Truth IS important enough to fight for, don't you agree? | |
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| Freeborn, I think it is the way "translators" of the orginal text made mistakes in their translations. And as you and I have seen with the KJV vs. NIV these are deliberate omissions of the text to confuse and misguide a reader. I read the KJV and as you may have seen my arguement of the word "replenish" in Gen. has once again got started. The KJV is the only version for me. As you also know I was raised a Catholic. The POPE is also called THE HOLY SEE. He is the head of the all Catholics on this earth. What he says goes. Alot of American Catholic Churches today want to separate from Rome because of the strict guielines of the church. They want the church to relax the laws banning marriages of priest. (I believe this in written in the Bible). Also they want the church to recognize homosexuality (which is clearly written in the BIBLE). Also remarriage after divorce is also a no no. (This is also clearly in the BIBLE). John Paul did not allow any changes stating that is goes against God's word. (That is why you see so many leaving the CHURCH). Yes there are things that the Catholic church should change (Idols, celebrating PAGEN Holidays, etc.) But to go against God's word is what the Catholic church will never do. There is alot that should be changed to more adhere to the WORD. But getting that changed I think would take an act of GOD himself. Tweety | |
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Dear friends,
let us not stumble over translations.
I read my bible in my native language, but I take the KJV for the English translation because most of the groups use this bible.
I like that old language.Although some new translations are easier for me to read.
eelya | |
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| WHoa! Let's not get steamed over this! IT is entitled to his opinion just as much as you are, Freeborn. The King James version is good, but there are better renditions based upon Apostolic Teaching and expert Bible scholars.
| Again, this is only your opinion. and it is solely based upon your own brainwashing by the catholic church. I say there are no other translations as perfect and Holy as the KJV. This Book is the one God grants to the common people. The catholic church fought against allowing people to have and read the true Word. They killed many who worked to give us this true Word of God, for they knew when People had this truth, they would know they were being lied to and cheated out of salvation.. Why is my answers considered 'getting steamed', and yours is not? I can get just as 'steamed' as anyone. If you wish to call it that. fine with me. steam up the room. it is healthy. The 'better' renditions, to you, are the ones which support old pope ruling over the others. well, thank my God, Jesus told us not to do that, for we are all ONE. He does not rule over me, and he never will. Jesus is my Lord, not some man with a silly long gown and fish crown on his head. (which came from the idol fish god.) I am not ignorant of these things. | |
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| the Incarnate Son of God,
OK, show me that in the Word of God. It is a lie of man. Incarnate is another made-up lie of man. It is just not true. Tweety, that Catholic church has never been true to the Word of God and never will be. That is 'left-over' stuff from your raising. when you get more fully into the freedom Jesus gives us, you will see they perverted every thing of God. The priests should marry and stop their adultery and molesting children. God has never forbidden marriage, In fact the Word tells us that this one of the ways we know those who of the devil, and not of God, this forbidding to marry, and those who forbid to eat certain meats. these people are not of God. | |
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| Hi Eelya, I am very dedicated to upholding the KJV. Others changed too much and do not show the glory as this Book does. I cannot read anything except English, and I will stay with the KJV. Tweety, The catholic church goes against the Word of God, when they call men on earth, father. when they pray to saints, when they pray to mary, when they have a church full of statues, when they call x-mess, the birthday of Jesus, when they call easter, something to do with the resurrection of Jesus, when they must pay a man to pray for them and 'suppossedly' forgive their sins. then they must pay him again, and again, and again (mark of the beast) 'then when one dies, their families must pay some more for this fake priest to pray their person out of an unreal 'purgertory' How is that being true to the Word of God? Wake up , dear one. They are not true to the Word of God at any point. they set up the lie of a triune god. It is of the devil./ idols have this trinity, not the true God. Nothing of this fake church is of God. a pope sitting high on some lavish chair, in his lavish robes, and his fish-god hat on his head, being carried by other men, tell me, how is that true to God? Jesus was an humble man. He did not lift himself up above anyone. His disciples did not. He told us not to. No, they are false as false can be. They are NOT OF GOD AT ALL. I do not appologize to anyone for teaching this truth. I owe it to God and to anyone who reads here. Save your souls, flee this babylon mess. | |
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Again, this is only your opinion. and it is solely based upon your own brainwashing by the catholic church. I disagree with your opinion, Freeborn. The Catholic Church compiled the bible and it is from Her that anyone else gets one. I say there are no other translations as perfect and Holy as the KJV. Thank you for your opinion. I disagree. This Book is the one God grants to the common people. Care to prove it? The catholic church fought against allowing people to have and read the true Word. Wrong, this is a distortion of the truth. The Church forbade false renditions of the bible that will mislead others to their doom. The Arians, I think, were the ones who tried to rewrite the Scriptures to support their theology. Of course these falsities were disallowed! The Church is about teaching Truth and leading others to Truth, so yes, She is opposed to lies. They killed many who worked to give us this true Word of God, for they knew when People had this truth, they would know they were being lied to and cheated out of salvation.. Please substantiate your claim because I think it's false. Why is my answers considered 'getting steamed', and yours is not?You just seamed a little bent out of shape. My mistake if read agitation into your post. The 'better' renditions, to you, are the ones which support old pope ruling over the others. well, thank my God, Jesus told us not to do that, for we are all ONE. But you won't say who that 'one' is? Where do I find your church? What is it's name? I say the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church IS the Catholic Church. Who do you say She is? He does not rule over me, and he never will. All authority has been placed by God, so if you reject that...that's between you and God.Jesus is my Lord, not some man with a silly long gown and fish crown on his head. (which came from the idol fish god.) Jesus is my Lord and God. Now what? I am not ignorant of these things. Sorry to disagree with you, but you haven't been the expert so far... | |
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| Dove, you are so deceived. That Catholic church killed people through the dark ages who were found to possess a bible. I have read about this in the Life magazine many years ago. It is history. It must be YOU have never read any history about your own church. They are noted for killing all who worked to translate the Holy KJV. THAT FAKE CHURCH most certainly did not give us that Bible. They did not compile that Holy Book. for they hate it. Who do you think you are kidding? We are not the ignoramouses you might hope we are. You are fighting for the very organization which will lead you to hell and destroy you. if they had world power again, they would kill all of us who will not accept their lies and lay down our Bibles. | |
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| And I suppose YOU are the expert? ha. MIGHTY FUNNY. ALL YOU HAVE DONE is say no, it is not this way. NO, the church is the one. No i believe the church. well, well, so give us some expert advise, miss know-it-all. You do not know a thing except what that priest tells you to believe. so many of them have been proven to molest children, till it is taking away quite a sum of their big money bag. yet they are the true church? lol. The true Church is in the Book of Acts. why can't you read. It is the Church build on this foundation: thou are the Christ , the Son of the loving God, .....not some incarnate god or son. not God. the Son OF the Living God. the true Church is built on that true foundation. we have been baptized in Jesus' Name for the remission of sins. only way to get your sins remitted....not by paying some child-molesting man. | |
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And I suppose YOU are the expert? ha. MIGHTY FUNNY. ALL YOU HAVE DONE is say no, it is not this way. NO, the church is the one. No i believe the church. well, well, so give us some expert advise, miss know-it-all. This is a good example of why I thought you were steamed and in a snit.  Freebird, do you really think that someone that is brainwashed could refute you so easily? Do you really think you are building upon a true foundation when a brainwashed person such as myself, according to you, can come in here and blow it away in a minimal number of posts? You have given nothing but your opinion. I will give you history and facts, but you said you are not interested in that.  Scandal is the curse of mankind and is not endemic to any one people, group, or religion. To cite scandal is for the pot to call the kettle black. Catholicism knows there are sinners IN the Church, but that doesn't stop the TRUTH from being preached to the ends of the earth. If you base your denial of the Church upon the scandals, you must also reject the Church of Acts because Judas Iscariot was the first scandal in betraying Jesus, and he was an apostle!!! I ask you for a third time... Where and Who is the Church that Jesus established, in your opinion? | Reply
| | | The canon of the bible was established at the Council of Nicea in the year 325. It was a Catholic Council. King James was no where around. | | p.s. I will continue this thread on a new one, since it became too long for one thread, as some of the messages roll over to another page. I want to keep all of these discussion in plain view to anyone who comes to this board or thread. This was started by a Catholic as several came in here at the same time to try to tear down the truth we know and teach. Jo |
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