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whats the 7 cries from the cross?

SOME WHAT ARE THE REST?

Mat27:46-

"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

The Old Rugged Cross

Old and rugged, you think of dark, and dark represents evil.

The Cross was not merely a cruel form of death, but it humiliated it’s victims; it was used to execute those who were most cursed. The procedure with all of its torture ended with the victim naked, with no rights, no reputation, and no recourse.

Jesus was rejected to the point that;5 For neither did his brethren believe in him.

John 7:5 (KJV)

23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

Acts 2:23 (KJV)

Jesus still loved US and;

1 A CRY FOR PARDON

34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

Luke 23:34 (KJV)

2 A CRY FOR ASSURANCE

43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Luke 23:43 (KJV)

3 A CRY FOR COMPASSION

26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!

27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home

John 19:26-27 (KJV)

4 A CRY OF ANGUISH

46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Matt 27:46 (KJV)

5 A CRY OF SUFFERING

28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.

John 19:28 (KJV)

6 A CRY OF VICTORY

30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

John 19:30 (KJV)

7 A CRY OF SUBMISSION

46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

Luke 23:46 (KJV)

20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

John 15:20 (KJV)

The Old Rugged Cross

Old and rugged, you think of dark, and dark represents evil.

The Cross was not merely a cruel form of death, but it humiliated it’s victims; it was used to execute those who were most cursed. The procedure with all of its torture ended with the victim naked, with no rights, no reputation, and no recourse.

Jesus was rejected to the point that;5 For neither did his brethren believe in him.

John 7:5 (KJV)

23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

Acts 2:23 (KJV)

Jesus still loved US and;

1 A CRY FOR PARDON

34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

Luke 23:34 (KJV)

2 A CRY FOR ASSURANCE

43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Luke 23:43 (KJV)

3 A CRY FOR COMPASSION

26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!

27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home

John 19:26-27 (KJV)

4 A CRY OF ANGUISH

46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Matt 27:46 (KJV)

5 A CRY OF SUFFERING

28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.

John 19:28 (KJV)

6 A CRY OF VICTORY

30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

John 19:30 (KJV)

7 A CRY OF SUBMISSION

46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

Luke 23:46 (KJV)

John 15:20 (KJV)

Dear Stranger,

Thank you for this wonderful message. This is so good and true. We all need to focus more on the price Jesus paid for our redemption.

"The Old Rugged Cross' used to be one of my favorite songs. But one day as my husband and I were riding along, this song was being played on the radio. As I began to sing along with it, Jesus spoke to me as plain as day, and said, that is IDOLATRY!

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He told me the church world has made an idol out of the 'cross'. We are not to worship, honour, or display a cross. It is idolatry to do so.

We are to cherish, and love, and sing about Jesus; not the cross.

Just thought I would bring this out here.

Again, thanks for this study.

I nener thought of the cross that way. But I can see and understand; what your saying. I do not think a cross should be worn as fine jewlery. However I see nothing wrong with picking up your cross to follow Jesus. It's a self reminder as to who and what your are.Plus the fact that we wouldn't be here if it weren;t for Him.

Pretty good to ask the question already knowing the answer....HA!...I am pleased with the answers you gave, Stranger. I do know that "cried" does not mean "cry", and as you picked it up...it normally was "cried in a loud voice"....many people do not know that, or they missed it.

The part about the cross and wearing it and the "church house better have one on top of it's steeple"....phooey! And Jo is right, the song turns my stomach today too.

There are many lessons to be learned from the 7 cries from the cross. I really liked it.

Also, we do follow Jesus, and we walk the walk, daily, and our "crosses" are sometimes hard to bear, just like He said they would be. But knowing what the reward will be to "pick it up and follow Him" is more than worth it today and tomorrow and in eternity.

I saw a live production recently of the crucification of Jesus...and when they laid Him on the cross and nailed Him to it....I was so moved....I just wanted to slobber all over myself....and all of the 7 cries you told of....I saw...and it was just like being there for real.

Let me add one more thing. The person who played the part of Satan was there at the cross watching as Jesus was being crucified and laughing especially when Jesus died...then Satan walked away for he thought it was over for Jesus and he had won. (Was he in for a surprise 3 days later! ) Oh, and at the end of the production...when they took their credits...ole Satan got booed and then laughed at, and finally hand claps for he did do a good job of being the bad person he was portraying who really is so nasty in this world today. But, somebody had to play the part in this show called "The Promise". If you ever get a chance to go see it....go! It is in it's 14th year.

Heb12:002-

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

The Vatican is cross with stars who wear crucifixes as jewelry - and wants stunners like Jennifer Aniston, Catherine Zeta-Jones and Jennifer Lopez to take them off.

The edict from the Vatican news agency Fides slammed the trio and other celebs for turning jewel-encrusted crosses into "the mania of the moment."

It called the crucifix "sacred" and said using it as a fashion item is outrageous.

"Crosses glitter around the necks of television show-women, leading models and actresses," the agency raged in a scathing editorial.

"Jennifer Aniston, star of 'Friends' and wife of Brad Pitt, wears a cross of platinum and diamonds. Naomi Campbell has a collection of enormous, jewel-studded crosses.

"Catherine Zeta-Jones exhibits a cross of gold and diamonds. This mania is incomprehensible." Also blasted were Cher and Liz Hurley.

"Is it consistent with the Gospel to spend millions on a copy of the sacred symbol of the Christian faith," the agency asked, "and perhaps forget there are people all over the world who suffer and die of hunger?"

Cher spokeswoman Liz Rosenberg said: "Why don't you tell the pope to clean up his own house."

Pricey Manhattan jewelers Harry Winston and Tiffany's don't carry crucifixes, but they do have some big-ticket crosses.

Winston charges $6,500 to $15,000 for crosses. At Tiffany's, the priciest cross is $20,000.

I thought this very interesting the Pope wears these big crosses around his neck and also has one in his hand no telling how much they cost. Yet he and the vatican are condemming these others for wearing a cross.Once again Jesus said in Heb:12:2-

012:002

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God

"Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God."

You were right to pick this scripture. For Jesus had joy when he was looking forward to "setting down at the right hand of the throne of God".

Jesus overcame the cross, the death, the shame by "faith".

This is what we must have, "faith", to overcome the things we endure in this life. Our "faith" is what will give us victory over every thing that tries to come between us and our faith. If we can keep our "faith" in all things and all situations that come before us, keep our eyes and hearts on an in Jesus....we will overcome and gain our victory.

Blessed be the lamb. Thank you Jesus for showing us the "way" to be victorious.

AMEN SIS-SPIRITWALKER

Jonah 2:8~~~~~~They that OBSERVE lying VANITIES forsake their own MERCY

Now, for a dictionary meaning of 'observe':

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ob•serve \�?/FONT>b-"z�?/FONT>rv\ vb ob•served; ob•serv•ing 1 : to conform one's action or practice to 2 : celebrate 3 : to make a scientific observation of 4 : to see or sense esp. through careful attention 5 : to come to realize esp. through consideration of noted facts 6 : remark �?ob•serv•er n

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Now, in my English Websters it adds this to the one online: 3: to celebrate or solemnize (as a ceremony or festival) in a customary or accepted way. and to watch or gaze upon something.

So, what does this mean? To OBSERVE a lying vanity is to celebrate or solemnize it as a ceremony or festival. This is WORSHIP.

This includes all the holidays: they were solemnized as a ceremony or festival. So this makes them all idols = x-mas trees - decorations - bunnies - buildings - crosses- etc. These things are 'celebrated' ---- making them be 'observing a lying vanity'.

So, what is a 'vanity'? :

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van•i•ty \"va-n�?/FONT>-tÈ\ n, pl -ties 1 : something that is vain, empty, or useless 2 : the quality or fact of being useless or futile : futility 3 : undue pride in oneself or one's appearance : conceit 4 : a small case for cosmetics : compact

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Now, for the Scriptual meaning: Acts 14:15~~And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you and preach unto you that ye should turn from these VANITIES unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth and the sea, and all things that are therein. (they were speaking of worshipping these men and idols)

Jer. 10:14--Every man is brutish in his knowledge: every founder is confounded by the GRAVEN IMAGE: FOR HIS molten image is falsehood, AND THERE IS NO BREATH IN THEM.

V15~~~tHEY ARE vanity, AND THE WORK OF ERRORS: IN THE TIME OF THEIR VISITATION THEY SHALL PERISH.

V16--tHE PORTION OF JACOB IS NOT LIKE THEM: FOR HE IS THE FORMER OF ALL THINGS;...

There are more Scriptures; but this is enough. This proves that these 'vanites' are idol gods.

They are graven images. God told us not to make any graven images of anything in Heaven or earth to worship.

Regarding ~~ is a form of worship. Just to gaze at something in admiration is WORSHIP. It is VANITY.

So, don't you see then, that to idolize a cross~~~~~~ to wear them to receive admiration or be gazed at is worshipping idols? This is too easy to see, for you to be deceived into thinking there is some kind of 'virture'??? in having a cross any place???

Remember, the Scripture in Jonah said if you regard a lying vainty, you forsake your own MERCY.

Thereby, if you take to crosses, useing them in any kind of way, you are forsaking your own Mercy; without mercy, there is no salvation.

People, this is very serious business. Don't take these things lightly.

We are to worship the Lord God and him only. We cannot bring lying vanities into our lives to honour them. To honour them is to worship them.

If wearing a cross; or having one on a building; or in a yard; or on a long stick (as the pope carries)~if this were something we should do The Word of God would tell us so.

Think not above that which is WRITTEN. Where is it WRITTEN????

Remember, this thing (a vanity) is useless, lifeless, and empty. That is what the Word tells us graven images are. So, a cross is useless, lifeless, and empty. It is not an object of worship.

Spiritwalker

Yes I knew the answer, before the Question.

If I give the answer before the Question do I cause you to think as much about it?

I want people to think and read their Bibles. Jesus in Me. People didn’t believe Him why should they believe me.

I like to see what others have to say about things, I really like it when others like it, but that’s not what I am here for. I’m here to make you and others think. Only One knows it all, and that’s not me or you. If anyone knew it all, the Bible wouldn’t tell you to check your spirit. Most people tend to believe the prince of the air (world spirit) rather than the spirit from God. I think of what others say before I believe them, I like to get others thinking first, so they will know what to believe.

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