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| | From: joie (Original Message) | Sent: 8/1/2005 3:28 PM |
From: joie2 | Sent: 12/11/2003 1:56 PM | Job 3 1. After this opened Job his mouth, and cursed his day. 2. And Job spake, and said, 3. Let the day perish wherein I was born, and the night in which it was said, There is a man child conceived. 4. Let that day be darkness; let not God regard it from above, neither let the light shine upon it. 5. Let darkness and the shadow of death stain it; let a cloud dwell upon it; let the blackness of the day terrify it. 6. As for that night, let darkness seize upon it; let it not be joined unto the days of the year, let it not come into the number of the months. 7. Lo, let that night be solitary, let no joyful voice come therein. 8. Let them curse it that curse the day, who are ready to raise up their mourning. 9. Let the stars of the twilight thereof be dark; let it look for light, but have none; neither let it see the dawning of the day: Does anyone here truly want the truth; or do you just wish to argue and have hot debates to no avail; only to prove some false concept from the past which suits your personal agenda? Now I have copied here the only Scripture I know of which gives us the revelation of Jesus' birth date. IF any of you claiming something else can find one Scripture reference to it, then copy and paste it here for us to read. And if you cannot ~~~~then deal with this one. First ask yourself this: If this is speaking only of Job's birthday, then why was Job such an important personage in the things of God that His birthday was blotted out of existence? Why would he be the ONLY person who ever lived who had this much importance that God Almighty would blot the day of his birthday out of existence. Why? Why would God blot the day of Job's birth out of existence? When his life was gone, who would be bothering to keep celebrating, or blessing that day? NONE. See? This was done to keep the world from ever blessing this day again. So then whose birthday is being celebrated on Dec. 25th? You who dote so on history, find the answer to this. For starters find and read 4000 years of Christmas. It has much history of this date, going way back 4,000 years. 2,000 years BEFORE Jesus was ever born. And if that is not what is meant here that this day never sees a dawning of light; nor any twilight of night; not stars ever shine in it; it is not numbered with the days of the Month or Year....it dwells all alone somewhere...now if this does not mean it was annialated, then please explain sensibly what this could mean? What does it mean that God does not regard this day from above? It was stained by the shadow of death? Could this be the crucifixion? Study> No joyful voice is ever heard in THIS day; so how could it be Dec.25th where all the 'merrymaking is heard'.? Why was it prophecied here that God would blot Job's birthday out of existence? Why was this day cursed? Job, being a prophet of God opened his mouth and CURSED HIS DAY and said "Let that day PERISH". Now we know that other prophets also had this power to speak curses and it would be God speaking----for God made it stand. For instance, Noah opened his mouth and cursed his grandson, Canaan. and it stood. God said in the mouth of two or three witnesses let every Word be established. So is there another prophet who also cursed his brithday? Let's see. Jer.20: 14. Cursed be the day wherein I was born: let not the day wherein my mother bare me be blessed. 15. Cursed be the man who brought tidings to my father, saying, A man child is born unto thee; making him very glad. 16. And let that man be as the cities which the Lord overthrew, and repented not: and let him hear the cry in the morning, and the shouting at noontide; 17. Because he slew me not from the womb; or that my mother might have been my grave, and her womb to be always great with me. 18. Wherefore came I forth out of the womb to see labour and sorrow, that my days should be consumed with shame?
Now study Jer. and you will see that he REPEATEDLY pronounces that his words are the Word of the Lord. Agree? Now, why would this prophet also CURSE his birthday? Why did God make this curse stand? What day was it? What day of the year was cursed? Which one does not exist? You really all need to study this, pray, and get willing to let God reveal this to you. quit trying to fight me and prove everything I say to be wrong. It will not help your soul one tiny bit. what if I am right? what then? You will have rejected revealed truth of God's Holy word. You are not fighting me, you are fighting God. Now, 4everhis, you said give me Scritpure and I will believe. Here is it. Eric, give us Scripture for your date. If you cannot, then know that it is not of God. He never gives us things which are not written for proof in His word. If you cannot give Scripture and I give Scripture for what I say, then who do you believe? Where is any Scripture pinpointing any day in Sept? I know of none. Nothing in Sept. matches these curses by two prophets. Sept still has all its days; Feb. does not. Why? 4everhis, you are such a student of 'history' go find out how many days all the months of the year had before the Juilean Calander. Compare the rest of Job 3 with Jer. 20 and you will see the same thing being spoken>>>> his sorrow and wishing he had not had to go through all his suffering. Was this Job and Jeremiah? Or was it truly prophecy speaking of Jesus? find your answer. I am certain. This is for you; not me. I was settled on this many years ago. | |
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You have never seen the Pattern and Plan of Salvation, therefore you rely on KJV, but when it is pointed out to you, that you are the manifestation of our Creator, and no matter which scriptures are used to point this out to you, you refuse to believe, which causes blindness. I do not know why Yahweh favored me, I am certainly no different or better than my fellow man. I just say as famous entertainers say, they do not know why they were blessed with the talents they have, they are just glad that He choose them. I am not the only one that I know who has seen the Plan and Pattern of Salvation, I do know that I am one of the few, who believe, and if I am saved, it is because I believe. We are born saved, the trick is not to loose our salvation. Yahshua paid the price, for us, so we come in the world saved, but people do not believe, that is there sin. The Messiah told us, that our faith is greater than His, why ? Because there is no need for
Him to have faith, He knows! I am not going to loose my soul, by lying to you about nothing, just not worth it. You and others cannot believe that you are Yahweh, cause of all the mess you were taught by satan and his imps, [pastors] I know for I too was carrying all those bricks that these liars had given me, they never explained what spirit is, the Holy Ghost, and would rather lie than, admit, that they did not know. If you go to their famous Bible colleges, and ask these questions, they do not know today, and if one does know, he cannot say and stay in the club, for a true seeker of the Gospel is free once they know the truth. How is the church, synagogue, temple going to stay open if you are free ?
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| | From: joie | Sent: 8/2/2005 2:23 AM |
Eric, then you tell us what the true plan of Salvation is. I have never seen you write one word of it. I can tell you, no pastor ever taught me one thing I believe. I have never met or heard one who knows any truth. I had to unlearn everything they taught me, in order to learn God's truth. Now you can deny the KJV all you wish. But you are the wrong one. You have no true power from God. Peter, Paul, and John did. They told us the right way of salvation. I surely trust the one Jesus gave his key to above you. Your 'yahee' or whoever it is, is not God. He is satan. That is why you can claim to be god. that is why you can deny the true plan of salvation and bulk every truth presented here out of the pure Word of God. No matter who opposes these truths I teach, you cannot change it. You will never have salvation without coming in God's chosen way. You have not found it or accepted it. I am so thankful God chose me and revealed His truth to me and filled me with the very same Baptism of the Holy Ghost Peter had. His presence and glory manifests to me every day. I am fully content with this glory and am not seeking to change a thing. I would not give up my God-given salvation and joy for any fake 'yahyoo'. Jo |
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Enough said sweetie !
PEACE
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Eric, then you tell us what the true plan of Salvation is. I have never seen you write one word of it. I can tell you, no pastor ever taught me one thing I believe. I have never met or heard one who knows any truth.
I had to unlearn everything they taught me, in order to learn God's truth. Now you can deny the KJV all you wish. But you are the wrong one. You have no true power from God. Peter, Paul, and John did. They told us the right way of salvation. I surely trust the one Jesus gave his key to above you.
Your 'yahee' or whoever it is, is not God. He is satan. That is why you can claim to be god. that is why you can deny the true plan of salvation and bulk every truth presented here out of the pure Word of God.
No matter who opposes these truths I teach, you cannot change it. You will never have salvation without coming in God's chosen way. You have not found it or accepted it.
I am so thankful God chose me and revealed His truth to me and filled me with the very same Baptism of the Holy Ghost Peter had.
His presence and glory manifests to me every day. I am fully content with this glory and am not seeking to change a thing. I would not give up my God-given salvation and joy for any fake 'yahyoo'.
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Enough said sweetie ! PEACE Eric, why not answer Joie? I myself would like to hear what you have to say about the plan of salvation. | Eric,tell us what the true plan of Salvation is. Also, saying that you are God is the sin thatAdam (Serpent) did in the Garden. For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. |
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| | From: joie | Sent: 8/3/2005 6:07 AM |
Even Jesus Christ never claimed to be God!......even though this entire world blames him with this sin. Peter and Paul rebuked those who mistook them for gods and tried to worship them. Eric, if you are God, then it would be perfectly alright for someone to worship you, right? Would you allow someone to worship you? How is it that the worst sinners in the world are saved and have the Holy, holy spirit? The HOLY Spirit would cause them to act and be HOLY. |
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Jo my manifestation is that as a man, the Messiah did not encourage the worship of His Manifestation, He taught the worship of our Father spiritual self, where perfection reins. I do all I can to teach you the importance of rightly dividing from flesh and spirit. I teach you that the bible is not a fleshly novel, but a spiritual language, that we need the Holy Spirit to inter-pet it for us. You are determine to make these carnal statements and attribute them to me, even expecting me to answer such foolishness, when you have rejected the obvious already.
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| | From: joie | Sent: 8/3/2005 7:09 PM |
Aw, now, Eric. I recognize 'spiritual hedging'. I see you are dodging the questions, for you know you have no true answers. All the questions I put to people, shows them they are in error, cannot answer, so they all, without exception, hurle accusations against me,,,,,,,,,to try and influence others against and away from me and the truth I teach.......but it will only lead to your own destruction. So you refuse to answer any questions? Sure. for you have no answers. Oh well, case closed. Eric oppoted out of the discussion and admitted defeat! So be it. Where are any who can stay in the battle? I have seen none yet. Jo .....but me loves ye too. |
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Jo, are you in a position where you can admit that you are wrong ? Has your present position forced you to be right, or want to be right ? If I teach you spiritual things, are you open to receive these Pearls ? From what I read, you swear that you are on solid ground, yet you cannot bow to your Creator's Name, how much more spiritual can that be, not to the true Name of your Creator ? I challenge you to look up the root of jesus, if you just do that, I will meet you with more spiritual understanding.
If you loves me too, where are my beans ? I'z still a powerful hungry Sweetie, for spiritual and physcial food.
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| | From: joie | Sent: 8/4/2005 2:32 AM |
Eric, you is sooooooo mixed up!!!! I bow to my Holy Creator and his holy name every day. His Holy Name is in my Holy KJV and I love it. The name you use is not in my Holy KJV. Now you go on with this fake 'jewish' stuff all you wish. They claimed that they KNEW that Jesus was a sinner. Is this your oppinion also? Was Jesus a sinner? Now I admited many years ago that everything I, at that time, believed was wrong, for it was taught me by the whore church. But I prayed for understanding of His Truth, and He is teaching me.......so now why should I listen to you or anyone else and claim [just to suit you] that My God has taught me lies as the whore did? No, My God has taught me His real truth and it matches His Holy word, for it came out of his holy word. Now you just settle on that one. I say what the Word of God says and that cannot be wrong. None of you are saying what the word of God says. I have not seen you teach one single thing here YET. When are you going to turn loose some of that vast store of KNOWLEDGE you possess? It is wrong to shut up that knowledge and hold it back in UNRIGHTEOUSNESS. Read Romans one. Adam did this sin. Jo |
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| | From: joie | Sent: 8/4/2005 2:35 AM |
Come and dine the master calleth, come and dine. The table is set; both the physical and the Spiritual. I feed you Spritiual food every day and you refuse to eat. ......twill make you sick to continue fasting and not eating the bountiful table Jesus set here for us. Eat and grow, dear one! Don't continue to shut your eyes to His truth. Open up to the Book of Acts and find glorious salvation beyond compare......it is joy unspeakable and FULL OF GLORY. me |
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Thank you, Isaiah. I hope she and others read this and this time, let God open their eyes. I appreciate your help here; speciall now, as I am so tired up with work. Tell Billy I said Hello. |
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| | From: Isaiah | Sent: 10/22/2006 1:02 AM |
Billy, asks about you everytime he is here. He wants to know if Jo, stil lives way down that dirt road by herself. He says I wouldn't live way over ther by myself. |
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Ha, tell Billy I am not alone. Jesus lives with me. |
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