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From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 11/24/2003 2:21 AM
I have challenged trinitiarians over and over ---- WHY DO NONE OF YOU BRING FORTH EVEN ONE WORD OF SCRIPTURE PROVING THIS LYING DOCTRINE?
 
I would be afraid to keep believing a doctrine for which there is not one single word of Scripture.  I am asking again, bring forth one verse stating this doctrine.
 
It just cannot be done   -- yet I would venture to say 85% of the 'church' world believes this lie.   The rest believe the Jesus only lie.  why is this?  No true revelation from the Holy Ghost.
 
1. They say Jesus is the 'second person' in the god-head.  ......now I ask someone, any trinity believer to please give me one verse which says this.   If you cannot, then maybe you better check up on what you rest your soul on.
 
2.  They say the Father is the 'first person' in that god-head.  Again please give me one verse saying this.
 
3.  They say the HG is the 'third person' in the god-head.  Scripture, Please?
 
4.  They say these are all  three co-equal beings, made up of the same substance.  Verse, please?
 
They say these are all three men, for if they are the same substance and co-equal, then they must all be men       >>>>>or they must all three be spirit>>>>which?  Give Scripture.
 
5.  They say Jesus was just as much God as the other two >>> then how did he die?  Can God die?  Please give verse for this.
 
6. They say,  God the Son.  Please find the verse which uses this term.
 
Jesus had the HG inside himself.  If the HG is a man just as Jesus is, and they are of equal substance, then HOW DID JESUS  HAVE THE  HG INSIDE HIMSELF?
 
Please explain with Scripture.
 
Jesus also said the Father was inside himself.  Again if the Father is a man, same as Jesus,  how was the Father inside Jesus?
How are they inside us? ... If they are men.  Also it says we have Jesus, the Father and the HG inside us..... now I ask you,, is this three co-equal beings inside me?  Is it three men?  Is it three Spirits?  Which.  If you say spirits, then this is denying that Jesus came in flesh.  If you say men, then you must believe that three men are inside us.  If you say one is a man, Jesus, and the other two are spirits, then they are not all three of the same substance.  And also then Jesus a man has to be inside us. 
How is this possible?  Think?  Are you on solid ground?
 
Is this trouble making?  NO-- I am trying to get you to truth.  It is necessary for salvation to know and BELIEVE THE TRUTH.
 
The word said if you believe a lie you will be damned.  Is trying to keep you from being damned trouble making and hate>  No.
 
By saying Jesus is God, please explain how Mary gave birth to God.
 
 
So which is it --where they all three men?  or are they all three spirit?  if spirit, then how did man nail a spirit to the cross and kill him?
 
The HG was inside John before he was born.  So if the HG is a man as was Jesus, how was he inside an unborn baby? 
If he was not a man, how are he and Jesus of the same substance?  How were they equal?
 
Is there any solid truth or Scripture supporting this teaching?  Can any of you answer even one of the questions with Word?
 
If not, how long will you cling to a doctrine which you can not find one word of God to back it up?  Have you no fear of believing something which is not written in God's word?  Is this why so many of you are trying feverioushly to discredit the entire Word of God?
 
If any of you here are serious about having eternal life,  you need to get into this study and find answers.
 
If you cannot prove any of this teaching with the Written word [and pillar and the others who say the spirit without the written word teaches them, then you tell us how it teaches you this is] -
 
but if you cannot prove this lie,  and you belong to a church which teaches this, then I would say it is TIME FOR YOU TO CHECK UP ON YOUR CHURCH.....ARE YOU BEING LED ASTRAY BY A FALSE CHURCH?  Sure sounds like it to me.  If your church teaches this, then get some of them [pastor] or teacher, to give you the proof out of the Word then give it to me.  If they cannot, better run for your eternal lives.
 
JO


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     re: Can you give a Scripture?   joie  11/24/2003 11:53 PM
     re: Can you give a Scripture?   joie2  12/19/2003 3:24 PM
     re: Can you give a Scripture?   MSN NicknameIsaiah·  12/23/2003 3:35 PM
     re: Can you give a Scripture?   MSN Nickname†GraveRobber�?/nobr>  9/7/2005 9:18 PM
     re: Can you give a Scripture?   Isaiah  9/11/2005 2:40 AM
     re: Can you give a Scripture?   joie  9/11/2005 2:47 AM
     re: Can you give a Scripture?   MSN NicknameRaheyl_14  9/2/2006 10:28 PM