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Message 1 of 21 in Discussion

From:

Chloe-Cat (Original Message)

Sent: 12/21/2008 9:09 AM

From: <NOBR>

FLANAMGEE</NOBR> (Original Message)

Sent: 21/12/2008 09:05

Bridget was born about 1810 county of limerick Ireland her father was patrick mother not known she married Christopher Flannery married about 19 yearsIhave no wedding date and no death date for Christopher the children Catherine born 2 oct 1834, Mary born 1 jan 1849,John born about 1838,Eliza about 1850,Margaret born about 1850 , 3 infants died Bridget and Margaret came to Australia in1878 on the LaHouge

Flanamgee

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Message 7 of 21 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 12/23/2008 8:45 AM

This is the Diocese of Limerick,You may want to try other Parishes

Mike

http://www.limerickdiocese.org/parishes/index.htm

Message 8 of 21 in Discussion

From:

FLANAMGEE

Sent: 1/28/2009 9:17 AM

hi mickym1951

thank you for your help I have been searching for about 2 years but my sister has been searching for more than 20 years ,we have not been able to find out anything about Christopher his daughters Eliza and Catherine went to america Catherine married John Gleason he was also born in Ireland, have not found Eliza in america, kate&john lived in Saratoga Springs NewYork

Mary came to australia and married Michael Regan in sydney in1869 he was also born in ireland ,I believe john also came to australia ,wishing you a merry christmas and a happy new year

Message 9 of 21 in Discussion

From:

jelora

Sent: 1/28/2009 5:49 PM

Your mention of some of the family coming to the USA,caught my attention.

I did a quick look-up for anything that could be found on Kate, since you had her marriage to John Gleason.

There are several Family Trees on Ancestry..with the Flannery family.

Some information can be found on Kate and John from the 1880 census forward through 1910.

No one had found the 1900 census for this family Group and one person had John and Kate living in NYC circa 1910.

The following is taken from the Census Index at Ancestry...

By 1900 Kate and John had lost seven of their children and only daughter Maggie was still living.

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1880 United States Federal Census 1880 United States Federal Census

Name: Catherine Gleason

Home in 1880: Saratoga Springs, Saratoga, New York

Age: 40

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840

Birthplace: Ireland

Relation to Head of Household: Wife

Spouse's Name: John

Father's birthplace: Ireland

Mother's birthplace: Ireland

Occupation: Keeping House

Marital Status: Married

Race: White

Gender: Female

Household Members: Name Age

John Gleason 40

Catherine Gleason 40

Nora Gleason 6

Mary Gleason 4

John Gleason 2

Margaret Gleason 7M

Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Saratoga Springs, Saratoga, New York; Roll: T9_929; Family History Film: 1254929; Page: 485.2000; Enumeration District: 88; Image: 0136.

1900 United States Federal Census 1900 United States Federal CensusName: Maggie Gleason

Home in 1900: Saratoga Springs Ward 4, Saratoga, New York

Age: 20

Birth Date: Oct 1879

Birthplace: New York

Race: White

Ethnicity: American

Gender: Female

Relationship to head-of-house: Daughter

Father's Name: John

Father's Birthplace: Ireland

Mother's Name: Kate

Mother's Birthplace: Ireland

Marital Status: Single

Residence : Saratoga Springs Village, Saratoga, New York

Household Members: Name Age

John Gleason 60

Kate Gleason 60 ____________Aug 1839__ Married 28 years(1872)__ 8 children..Only ONE Living

Maggie Gleason 20

Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Saratoga Springs Ward 4, Saratoga, New York; Roll: T623_1159 Page: 2B; Enumeration District: 132.

Source Information:

Ancestry.com. 1900 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004. Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Twelfth Census of the United

1910 United States Federal Census 1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Catherine Gleason

Age in 1910: 68

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842

Birthplace: Ireland

Relation to Head of House: Wife

Father's Birth Place: Ireland

Mother's Birth Place: Ireland

Spouse's Name: John

Home in 1910: Saratoga Springs Ward 5, Saratoga, New York

Marital Status: Married

Race: White

Gender: Female

Year of Immigration: 1865

Household Members: Name Age

John Gleason 74

Catherine Gleason 68

Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Saratoga Springs Ward 5, Saratoga, New York; Roll: T624_1076; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 135; Image: 1122.

Most of the Family Trees __Ancestry__ have Catherine's Death.. abt 1918

Will try to find Catherine's sibling Eliza..

Jelora

Message 10 of 21 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 1/28/2009 7:14 PM

Flanamgee I looked up Christopher in the New lds

Lds have a record of a Christopher Flannery
Birth Limerick
Oct to Dec 1897

Film num 101066
Vol 5
page 322
Digital gs num 4193980
image 00592

There was one other Born in Scarriff Births Jan to Mar 1882
Film num 101058
Vol 4
page 467

Digital gs Num 4193459
Image 00416

Message 11 of 21 in Discussion

From:

FLANAMGEE

Sent: 1/28/2009 10:48 PM

THANK YOU JELORA FOR ALL THAT INFO I APPRECIATE IT

Message 12 of 21 in Discussion

From:

FLANAMGEE

Sent: 1/29/2009 12:53 AM

That seems to be accurate ,except in catherines in the st pauls cemetary records the informant was john flannery. I am unable to find that now ,I may not of printed it ,if I can find I will send it to you thank you for all that info Jelora I appreciate it from margaret alma

Message 13 of 21 in Discussion

From:

FLANAMGEE

Sent: 1/29/2009 1:36 AM

HI MICKY THAT WOULD'NT BE MY CHRISTOPHER HIS BIRTH WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THE LATE 1700'S OR EARLY 1800'S THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP FROM MARGARET ALMA

Message 14 of 21 in Discussion

From:

jelora

Sent: 1/29/2009 3:49 AM

Hi Margaret,

You are saying that Catherine (Kate) Gleason nee Flannery is buried in St.Pauls Cemetery, Saratoga, New York, is this correct?

The informant was John FLANNERY....not GLEASON.

Then we have a Flannery connection living in the USA?

I hadn't the time to check for any Flannery families living in Saratoga, but if the above is correct,this would be another family to follow in the Census.

Did your family have any correspondence with living family in the USA?

Anything that you can add to the above findings might be very helpful in the research.

Take care,

Jelora

Message 15 of 21 in Discussion

From:

FLANAMGEE

Sent: 1/29/2009 6:23 AM

Hi Jelora yes catherine and her husband are both buried there when her husband died she was the informant and signed her name as Kate Flannery when John Gleason was the the informant; MY SISTER GOT ALL THIS INFORMATION SOME YEARS AGO SHE PUT IT ON MY COMPUTER BUT I LOST IT WHEN I HAD A COMPUTER CRASH WE FOUND THEY HAD 4 CHILDREN ;HAVE NOT BEEN NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANY MORE INFO THANKS JELORA YOUR HELP IS MUCH APPRECIATED MARGARET ALMA

Message 16 of 21 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 1/29/2009 8:06 AM

Hi yes i see what you mean my mistake

Mike

Message 17 of 21 in Discussion

From:

jelora

Sent: 1/29/2009 4:07 PM

Hi Margaret,

This is a quick overview of information found on the GenWeb Saratoga New York Web-site___http://saratoganygenweb.com/

Cemeteries_Saratoga Springs

St. Peter's Cemetery

Following was taken from one contributors entries, as you can see no dates given only names

Gleason, Bridget

Gleason, James

Gleason, John

Gleason, Joseph F.

Gleason, Margaaret N.

Gleason, Marshall N.

Gleason, Mary

Gleason, Mary E.

Gleason, Nora

The following were taken from another. This is the place that your sister may have found the name of John Gleason by the entry of Catherine... John was given as SPOUSE of Catherine..not informant.

The following maybe of interest:

Flannery Thomas 56y 31Aug1905

Gleason John 85y 26Sep1917 Kate Flannery (Spouse)

Gleason Katherine 84y2m27d 02Oct1834 29Dec1918 John Gleason(Spouse)

Note: some of the info on this site was taken from funeral Home information and obituaries.

Since, I haven't been working with you throughout your time with the Group , would you kindly give me some information as to where you now are living.

I can do some searching by telephone contacts in Saratoga,but would like to have some background if they ask for whom I'm requesting information.

You can contact me at home e-mail if you prefer.. my address is in the Group file.

Till then..Take Care,

jelora

Message 18 of 21 in Discussion

From:

FLANAMGEE

Sent: 1/29/2009 5:35 PM

HI JELORA I HAVE AN ERROR AGAIN I SHOULD OF SAID WHEN CATHERINE DIED JOHN GLEASON WAS THE INFORMANT; MY AUNTS WERE UNABLE TO CONTACT ANY OF CATHERINES FAMILY WHEN MY GRANMA DIED IN 1940 THANKS AGAIN FROM FLANAMGEE

Message 19 of 21 in Discussion

From:

jelora

Sent: 1/29/2009 5:55 PM

Hi Margaret,

I've started going through the Saratoga web-site mentioned above..

FOUND:

Burke Funeral Home.. wish there were more transcribed records like these..!!

You now have family information on John GLEASON

born Limerick county Ireland __died 26 Sept 1917_ burial St. Peters_ place of death

14 Greenridge Place _ Occupation Porter_ attending physcian_ Dr. Van Arnum

FATHER:___ James Gleason _ Ireland

Mother:__ Kate McAVOY

Wife:_-_Kate Flannery

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Gleason Katherine__ 02 Oct 1834_ 20 Dec 1918

Born: Limerick Ireland

Burial: St.Peters

Place of Death: McCarthy Hospital

Dr. R H McCarthy

14 Greenridge Place

Father ___FLANAGAN ??(sic)

Mother___ blank

Husband: John Gleason

Relative: Estate

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NELSON Margaret

34y10m 14 days

1 Oct 1882-15 Aug 1917

Burial:St Peters

Place of Death: Saratoga Hospital

Housewife _married

Doctor: Dr. John Ledlie

109 Lincoln Ave.

Father: JOHN GLEASON

Limerick Ireland

Mother: CATHERINE FLANNERY

Limerick Ireland

Husband: Fred NELSON

No other relatives mentioned.

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Margaret... I believe your sister recorded four children for John and Kate from the 1880 Census.

But in the 1900 Census Kate says that she had eight children.. very possible over 20 year span.. only one child living .. that would be the Margaret married to Fred Nelson.. above.

There maybe more information on the Saratoga site.. will follow through..

Jelora

Message 20 of 21 in Discussion

From:

jelora

Sent: 1/29/2009 8:14 PM

Margaret..

The following is the family of Margaret Nelson nee GLEASON

There is a family tree on Ancestry but there is no contact information for the suibmitter of the tree.

The following NELSON children would be the Grandchildren of Katherine and John.

Frederick George Nelson____Husband of Margaret

Parents: William Nelson & Caroline Marshall

Birth: Apr 22 1877

New York

Death: abt 1945

Saratoga Springs, Saratoga Co., New York

Margaret Gleason

Parents: John S Gleason & Katherine S Flannery

Birth: OCT 1879

New York

Death: abt 1915

Saratoga Springs, Saratoga Co., New York

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Alternate Spouses

Margaret Gleason

Mary Unknown

Marriage �?1902 in , , New York, USA

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Children

Name Sex Birth Death

Katherine Nelson F 1904

Saratoga Springs, Saratoga, New York, USA

John F Nelson M abt 1905

Saratoga Springs, Saratoga Co., New York 1984

Saratoga Springs, New York, USA

Margaret A Nelson F 1908

Saratoga Springs, Saratoga, New York, USA

Caroline Nelson F 1911

Saratoga Springs, Saratoga, New York, USA

Marshall Nelson M 1913

Saratoga Springs, Saratoga, New York, USA

Relationship Events (for example, marriage, divorce, etc.)

Marriage 1902 in , , New York, USA

Jelora

Message 21 of 21 in Discussion

From:

jelora

Sent: 1/29/2009 9:04 PM

Margaret,

The mention of a Thomas Flannery living in Saratoga Springs during the same time

as Katherine needed to be explored.

The following is from the Burke Funeral home database:

Flannery John P. 57y9m16d Local 15Jun1876 11Apr1934 St. Peter's

Saratoga Hospital Employe,Grand Union Hotel
C S 1929 430
Dr.Ressique/lived140W.Circular

Thomas Flannery Co.Limerick,Ireland ____FATHER

Mary McCormick Co.Mayo,Ireland _____Mother

Dr.Jos.Flannery,Bambridge,NY _Brother__

Not a medical doctor but doctor of Veterinary Medicine according to 1930 Census_milk factory. Not married living as Boarder with another family.

jelora

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