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From: TheJuniperJourney  (Original Message)Sent: 1/13/2005 5:04 PM
I came upon the word "ravishing" in a book I was reading, and it made me pause. I've read this word a thousand times before, and it didn't used to bother me, but now it kind of does. Here's why:
 
Ravish-ing. Doesn't the "ing" technically make it a verb? Yet, it's still an adjective as well!
 
Wouldn't a more appropriate word be ravishful or ravishous?
 
What a weird word... haha!
 
 
~Juniper~


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From: WanduringSent: 1/14/2005 5:56 AM
Really depends on the word usage I would say.  When you add the -ing suffix, that -ing means the action of or the process of...If you were to say, " Her ravishing eyes stripped away my being."  You could say that," She will ravish me with her eyes, which stripped away my being." Or, " With her eyes she ravished away my being." It really just depends on how you are using the word to portray this or that.  Actually it is what I enjoy about the english language is it's lack of distinct structure, and how adaptable it is...<Considering my first language is Samiist>  Anyhow, it is sorta cool to chase back word histories and whatnot...

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From: MSN NicknamesæskwačSent: 1/14/2005 10:58 AM
Information on the word "Ravishing":
 
As an adjective it means "Extremely attractive" or "entrancing"  (heh heh, another "-ing" adjective!)
 
"Ravish" is also a verb so "Ravishing" is the present participle tense of "ravish" means that someone is engaged in the act denoted by the verb "Ravish", which has a few senses, including:
 
1) To seize and carry away by force.
2) To rape; violate.
3) To overwhelm with emotion; enrapture.
 
It comes from Middle English "ravisshen" which derives from Old French "ravir" and "raviss-" which in turn derives from "rapre" which is a Vulgar version of the Latin "rapere" which means "to seize".
 
It's usually used in our English as an adjective, as in "A ravishing blonde."
 
Why do we add "-ing" to create an adjective here?
 
Well, it turns out that "Verbs of emotion" can become adjective by adding "-ed" or "-ing".
 
An example would be the verb "bore" as in "My English class bores me".  "Bore" can be made into an adjective by adding "-ed" or "-ing" as in the following examples"
 
"I am bored by my English class."
"The calss is boring to me."
 
The verb + "-ed" becomes an adjective when it is used to describe a person or animal that experiences an emotion.
 
For example: "Susan was annoyed by her neighbor's dog."
 
The verb + "-ing" becomes an adjective when it is used to describe the thing or things that cause (instigate) the emotion.
 
For example: "The dog was annoying Susan."
 
Some useful tests of which is appropriate is that sentences often use the word "by" with adjectives in "-ed", such as "Greg was challenged by his math homework."  Whereas sentences often use the word "to" with adjectives ending in "-ing", such as "Greg's math homework was challenging to him."
 
So, in the case of "ravish" becoming an adjective, you could have either of these two sentences:
 
"Jeff was ravished by Jackie's beauty."
 
or
 
"Jackie's beauty was ravishing to Jeff."
 
Now, just saying "Jackie is ravishing" is really a shortening of "Jackie is ravishing to me" or to everybody, or to men or women in general, etc.
 
Anyway, have prettled on long enough...