I'm sure there are fluffy kabbalasssss. It's all the rage in Hollywood and in the Music biz, so I'm sure that there folks that wear the trappings, and have read The Solitary Kabbalalist so they can smooze at parties, and look like they are 'in the know'

 

It should be required that people before taking on any religion, have at least a basic understanding of the history, and purpose of that religion. Know the tribes history in world events and being able to say why that history should be important today would be a big plus too!

 

 

 

 

Well, I can't really chip in on this one. Not Jewish. In no way, shape or form am I related to those tribes or their beliefs. I am curious as to why you would be interested in a Jewish faith since it is historically so opposed to what you know to be true.

 

 

 

and this one ... http://www.kabbalah.info/engkab/kabbalah-video-clips/a-kabbalist-a-scientist-and-a-religious-person

 

"besides I was recently told that my last public ritual had a kabbalistic feel to it and I want to know why"

Oh cmon...that's barely worth the effort. Ok, because that person had recently had something to do with reading or being at a kabbalah thing, and your ritual to address things outside the earthly sphere was similar to the kabbalah ritual.......which goes to say is similar to every ritual.

Kabbalah is this generations, Golden Dawn with one glaring difference. It is politically motivated and sanctioned at the highest levels by the Jewish authority. Please! it has nothing to do with religion, Judism, magic, mysticism, Christianity??? yea right. It's science! Sure it is. I have the Equinox books from the 1800s, Crowley said the same thing.

It has nothing to do with Judism? How come all the speakers are rabbis, or they're wearing the little beanies? And by virtue, anything having to do with Judism, has to do with Christianity. Kabbalah by any other name has been known for years as Jewish Magic, and Mysticism.......and on the side, why is it that all any one has to say is it is thousands of years old, and that somehow makes it more worthy. I have yet to find anything or anyone that is thousands of years old that represents more than a developmental curiosity in superstition.

Right now, Christianity is losing steam in all educated 1st and 2nd world countries. Why? Because it's based on superstitious fiction, and it's getting harder and harder to deny that. All these ex-christians that still need something are looking at the paganism and homemade almagations of beliefs, and basically wandering around. Judism, being the main winner of the ancient herder nomadic tribal wars in the fertile crescent, which spread across to Rome and eventually up into the British isles after Constantine’s supposed conversion, is looking to bring a lot of those folks back into the fold. (Yes, I know it was Christianity that Constantine converted to. Face it, Judism and Christianity are basically the same religion, one is an minor adaptation for the time period built on the history and ritual of the other to push the father religion ahead of the mother religions.) So they roll out Kabbalah, with a back story of Abraham, Moses (big names you’ve heard of) and a few others and call it science (it fails every definition of science, it is unproved and immeasurable theory), to help their membership drive.

It's a new name on an old practice. It doesn't matter what you call it, it's a set of rituals created in someone’s imagination to help foster a belief in something after death. People can't handle the chaos and randomness of life, and need the comfort of knowing....it's all worth it. But sameold sameold gets boring, so humanity whips it up in a new wrapping paper every now and then.

The archeological facts of the matter are, that humanity was progressing along quite nicely under the agricultural goddess religions, which were to say, mother religions, the religion of birth. Men and women worked together. This isn't a utopian dream, this has been proved over and over. If someone needs a religion, this one seems the most cohesive to health and honor of humans of both sexes! Then at some point, whether because of an ecological disaster, the technological advance of metallurgy or whether it was spearheaded by tribes from non-agricultural areas, roaming herder tribes spread across Europe and Northern Africa and wiped out the great agricultural cities leaving their legacy of war, and their god religions, religions of the father, the religion of death. It's done well convincing people who want to live to accept their religion, and it's spread through wars, followed by priests proclaiming stronger gods.

You have, through the Goddess religion, and the old ways, been able to connect and break through in ways that are astounding to the people in your circles. I would suggest that you would be better served continuing down that path rather then taking seriously anything connected with the propaganda machines of autocratic religions.

And now.....happy thoughts......LOL....geez, lighten up already...

 

heheh, You should have seen the first one I wrote! The one that I forgot to save before I hit send and it went to white screen, lost....gave me time to think about it and tone it down......heheh

 

I'm not saying in any way that I think you would get religion and start speaking in tongues.....but after checking the bathtub enough times and finding nothing but dirt, I stop checking for babies.

 

I'm finding that it is much more 'enlightening' to study history. Rather than assuming a thousand year old Bedoin tribesman suddenly had a dream and came up with a map of heaven, I find more value in studying the migration, wars and political systems of the time. After a while you quickly find that gods are interchangeable as long as property is available to steal by killing everyone currently occupying it. The more you know about the past, the more respect you lose for all authority. The more the political goals of 'religion' are exposed to be nothing more than an driving force for greed and powerlust (which is just another kind of greed), the more you realize 99% of it is hypocritical bullshit. Don't know about you, but I simply don't have time to waste on bullshit. Most of it is just to throw a smokescreen up so people don't have time to realize what is really going on! Of course, that's just me and everything I write is my opinion. If you can find anything of value in my opinions, more power to ya! LOL There's only a few known good rules to follow while alive (and they are all subjective to the situation), the rest can wait until I'm dead!

 

Speaking about hitting dirt ... I've been surprised by unexpected happenstance before ... I have to make time to tell you about the time I stood with a Hermetic circle doing ritual invocations. It was this lodge : http://www.archallem.org/  - wicked experience.

 

 

I looked at Kabbala on a few Jewish Kabbala groups a few years back. Some of their principles and systems felt like they were the ramanents of a lost spiritual scientific system. I saw different meanings and relationships than the Jews but none wished to debate the matter because I clearly wasn't a Jew or a Jewish scholar. My intuition is they stole it from Summer scholars, who may have had the ramanents of lost knowledge and learning from possible Advamced Ice Age civilizations that were lost in the Great Flood during a possible abrupt end to the last Ice Age. Some beleive a huge meteor may have destroyed the great Ice age civilisations that now lie in 200 feet and more below the sea in and around the Mediteranian and other localities.

Imo kabbala is a tool rather than an end in itself. I can't imagine focussing exclusively upon it as a religion.