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From: MSN NicknameCousins1944  (Original Message)Sent: 8/13/2008 12:57 PM
Hi,  I'm trying to track down where John Henry STEVENS came from and who his parents etc. were, and when he came to Australia.  His first marriage certificate dated June 14 1869, states he was 23 yrs old and a bachelor and he came from Surrey, England.  His father was John Henry Stevens a Gardner.  His mother Hannah maiden name unknown.  He married Mary Ann Harber in Fitzroy, Victoria, Australia.  Mary Ann died in 1875 in Victoria, Australia.  John later married Evlyne Whitmore in 1875 at East Bylands, Victoria.  He was widower with three children.  The certificate also states he was b. Surrey, England and was aged 29yrs.  His father John Henry Stevens a Gardner.  Note: Mother Mary Ann Unknown.  (there is a note on the certificate stating that Johndidn't know his mother's maiden name as he was very young when she died.)  John Henry Stevens died 1931 Albury N.S.W. he was 83yrs old.  Parents John Henry Stevens Labourer and Mary Ann Smith?  Informant was a Matron at Albury District Hospital.  Certificate states he was b. Doncaster England and he lived 60yrs in N.S.W. and 21 yrs in Victoria.  Any help would be appreciated.
 
Cousins1944
 
 


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From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 8/13/2008 7:13 PM
Hello Cousins 1944
 
This is Kay and I will try to help find your Stevens ancestors.  Check back regularly to see if I've managed to find any information for you.
 
Perhaps you could just clarify one thing for me?  Am I correct that John Henry Stevens' (born circa 1846-48) parents were John Henry Stevens and Hannah.  I know you say he married Mary Ann Harber but there is also mention of a Mary Ann Smith (?)  Does this Mary Ann Smith refer to what would be John's step-mother (his father's second wife), or have I picked up the wrong end of the stick??
 
Kay
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From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 8/13/2008 7:40 PM
Just thinking that as John was very young when his mother (Hannah?) died, and on the basis I can find no obvious record of them together as a family on the 1851 census, perhaps his mother died between his birth and 1851.  Checking death records I have found the following two which could fit:
 
Deaths Mar 1846   (>99%)
STEVENS  Hannah    Guildford  4 129   Scan available - click to view

Deaths Mar 1850   (>99%)
STEVENS  Hannah    Lambeth  4 210   Scan available - click to view
 
 
What do you think?
 
Kay
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From: MSN NicknameCousins1944Sent: 8/14/2008 5:46 AM
Hi Kay,
 
John Henry Stevens (b 1846-1848) parents were John Henry Stevens and Mary Ann as stated on his 2nd marriage certificate and death certificate.  But his first marriage certificate stated his mother was Hannah unkown, so I'm not sure whether his mother was Mary Ann or Hannah.  His death certificate stated he came to Australia when he was 2 so I don't know if they would be on the 1851 census?
 
The Hannah Stevens that you found in Mar 1850 who died Lambeth is that in the Surrey area?
 
Cousins1944

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From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 8/14/2008 7:02 AM
Hello again Cousins1944
 
Yes, Lambeth is partly in Surrey - this is the definition of it's location (and the record of Hannah's death I found):
 
 
 
Surname   Given Name   District   Volume   Page

Deaths Mar 1850
STEVENS Hannah Lambeth 4 210

The district Lambeth spans the boundaries of the counties of Greater London, London and Surrey; information about it can be found.

 

Kay

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From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 8/14/2008 9:46 PM
Hello Cousins1944
 
Here is some information that has presented itself on LDS:
 
JOHN HENERY STEVENS    Compact Disc #24     Pin #170869 Pedigree
Sex:  M

Event(s)
Birth:  1848
DONCASTER, SURREY, ENGLAND
Death:  28 Aug 1931
ALBURY DISTRICT HOSPITAL, NSW
Burial:  30 Aug 1931
C/E SECTION ALBURY CEMETERY, NSW

Parents
Father:  JOHN STEVENS     Disc #24     Pin #170867
Mother:  HANNAH (SMITH) STEVENS     Disc #24     Pin #170868

Marriage(s)
Spouse:  EVLYNE (WHITMORE) STEVENS     Disc #24     Pin #170874
Marriage:  1 May 1875
MR JOHN JONES HOUSE, E. BYLANDS, VIC
Spouse:  MARY ANN (HARBOUR) STEVENS     Disc #24     Pin #170870
Marriage:  14 Jun 1869
ST MARKS C/E CHURCH, FITZROY, VIC

Now it does look as though Hannah Smith was John's mother but one doubt I'm having about areas is that Doncaster is not in Surrey, it's in Yorkshire, many miles away.  Thing is, I've found a marriage between John Henry Stevens & Hannah Smith as follows:

 

Marriages Dec 1838   (>99%)
    
    
    
SMITH  Hannah    Sheffield  22 506   
STEVENS  John    Sheffield  22 506   
        
 

 

  

 

Bear in mind here that Sheffield and Doncaster are both in Yorkshire - it's a possible I feel.

Regarding the Mary Ann stated on John's 2nd marriage certificate (and death certificate) could have been a step-mother, possibly.  Just an idea that his father could have remarried once they emigrated and as John was so young at the time, just took his mother as Mary Ann "on paper".  What do you think?

 

Kay

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From: MSN NicknameCousins1944Sent: 8/15/2008 12:16 PM
Hi Kay,
 
The above pedigree from LDS I've seen before and had contact with Wendy, but she has know further info and only got her from the certificates, the same as me.  It's possible that it could be Hannah Smith and John Henry Stevens marriage.  I did have a look on LDS for a marriage or any children to John and Hannah but couldn't find any.
 
Regards Cousins1944

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From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 8/15/2008 12:56 PM
Hello Cousins1944
 
So is Wendy also a descendant of your John Stevens? 
 
Yes I looked for children of John Henry Stevens and Hannah but to no avail either. 
 
Thinking back to the death record I found on Hannah Stevens in Lambeth, I checked for birth records of John Henry Stevens and found the following:
 
Births Dec 1846   (>99%)
Stevens  John    Lambeth  4 320  
 
 
It just makes me think perhaps they lived as a family in Lambeth when John was born but shortly after, in 1850, Hannah died, before John senior and junior emigrated.  Any thoughts?
 
Kay
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From: MSN NicknameCousins1944Sent: 8/15/2008 1:45 PM
Hi Kay,
 
Yes Wendy is connected to my great grandfathers brother. 
 
If John Henry Stevens m. Hannah Smith in Sheffield where possibly Hannah was born, they might have moved back to Surrey where they may have made there home.  If this is the case there must have been more children and I wonder if they can be found in the 1841 census.  Also need to see if there is a record for John Henry Snr and jnr arriving in Australia sometime between 1848- 1850.
 
Thanks Cousins1944

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From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 8/26/2008 8:48 AM
Hello Cousins1944
 
I'm sorry I've not got back to you sooner but I've been trying to find both Henry and Hannah on the 1841 census, in the hope of finding more children.  Alas I've had no luck.  I'm rather frustrated about this but have found the 1841 census can be quite difficult - the later ones seem more straightforward and with more accurate information.  They must be lurking somewhere but so far I'm afraid they have eluded me.
 
Naturally, if I should find them I will certainly post for you.
 
Kay
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