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| | | From: Masugu (Original Message) | Sent: 7/10/2003 7:46 PM |
Hi Folks;
Yeah its that time again and I think we got a pretty good handle on Lynne's brickwall. We will, therefore move on to ME! with my updated brickwall entitled: "Brickwall--JAAKS, HERMANN, LOMAN, GOETTCHER, CONRAD, WINDT, GILLOFFO" , in which I seek specific information on my line of the JAAKS/JAACKS clan out of West Prussia and Cook Co. IL. Believe it or not this is a reduced list--I cut out any names that I had not listed in the details. My maternal grandmother, Evelyn M. V. (birth surname unknown) was born a woods-colt to Martha JAAKS & an unknown father. Evelyn was adopted at birth by her Aunt Bertha and Bertha's husband, Matthew HERMANN Jr. and all of the early records I can find reflect her maiden name as HERMANN.
Note: Martha was one of 6 daughters or 7 of Hermann H. JAAKS & two of his 3 wives, Magdalena LOMAN & Annie (lnu). The girls were b. from 1878-1890, in Jefferson Twp., Cook Co. IL, which became part of Chicago about 1895 or in Chicago. Their names were Bertha HERMANN, Rosa/Rose/Rosie WIBORG, Martha HENDRICKSON, Ida NORDIN, Annie (possibly the same as Maria Jaaks b. to Hermann & Magdalena in 1887) JAAKS, & Hattie JAAKS. Annie, in turn, may have had a fraternal twin, a boy, name unknown, who died in early childhood.
Some data I have on person's mentioned follows.
JAAKS/JAACKS:
1) Hermann H. JAAKS b. 4 Aug 1856 West Prussia, emigrated ca. 1875, d. by his own hand 9 Aug 1916. Parents were Hans JAAKS & Dorothea GOETTCHER. Hermann worked as a farmer & saloon-keep.
2) Magdalena ("Lena") LOMAN b. ca. 1856 West Prussia, emigrated ca. 1875, d. between 1882 & 1888 Chicago. Parents were (fnu) LOMAN and Mary (lnu). She had at least 2 sisters, Katherine LOMAN and Dora GAHDE.
HENDRICKSONs:
1) Martha JAAKS HENDRICKSON--b. 1883-1887 Cook Co., d. ?? prob. Chicago, m. (fnu) Hendrickson ?? prob Chicago some time after 1916, worked as nanny and maid.
HERMANNs/HERMANs:
1) Bertha JAAKS- b. 22/Apr/1879 Chicago d. 15 Aug 1921, Chicago, m. Matthew HERMANN Jr. ??? prob Chicago. They had a son, Matthew 3rd. ("Sonny") b. 1910 . Bertha was a tailor.
2) Matthew HERMANN Jr-- b. ca. 1881 prob. Chicago, d. 11 Nov 1935 Chicago. M2) Vivian/Vivien (lnu) who m. Sonny after his death. Matthew Jr. was a milkman and saloon-keep. Son of Matthew HERMANN Sr. and unknown mother.
3) Evelyn HERMANN b. 21 Apr 1907 Chicago, d. 30 Oct 1990 Chicago. M1) at the age of 16 on 7 Aug 1923 to George Lee CONRAD, by whom she had 5 daughters, June, Shirley, Betty Jane, Georgia ("Babe") & Lucille (b. 1923 thru 1930). She brought suit of divorce in March 1932, said divorce being decreed by Nov 1934. By Nov 1936, she was m2) to Joseph John GILLOFFO Jr.. Evelyn held several jobs but worked longest at the Wilson's Sporting Goods factory.
4) Sonny HERMANN b. ca. 1910 Chicago, d. ??? of carbon monoxide poisoning, m. his widowed step-mother Vivian/Vivien (maiden name unknown) HERMANN ??? Chicago. M2) name unknown. He worked as an auto-mechanic.
Others:
1) George Lee Conrad, b. prob. 24 Dec 1901 in Woodstock, McHenry Co., IL, d. prob Dec 1966, m1) Evelyn M. V. HERMANN, m2) unknown. Second son of Fred CONRAD and prob. Minnie WINDT. George worked as an iceman, chauffeur, hack (taxi driver), and local politician. According to the divorce proceedings he also ran a "beer flat" in the 1930s.
2) Joseph John GILLOFFO Jr. b. 29 Jul 1897, LA, d. Aug 1979, m1) Julia (lnu), m2) Mrs. Evelyn M. V. CONRAD. Joe owned a candy store, worked as a tailor & as a drummer in a band. Oldest son of Joseph GILLOFFO Sr. and Rosa PONZO.
So,what are some of the things I don't know but would like to know? (I would be happy if even one of these questions could be answered.)
1) immigration records or specific origin w/in Prussia, for Hermann H. JAAKS, Hans JAAKS, Dorothea GOETTCHER Magdalena LOMAN, Mary LOMAN, Katherine LOMAN, John GAHDE, and Dora LOMAN;
2) the first name of Magdalena, Dora and Katherine LOMAN's father;
3) Mary LOMAN's maiden name;
4) who Evelyn M. Viola HERMANN's real father (my g-granddad) was--this one is a BIGGIE!;
5) what Mr. HENDRICKSON's given name was;
6) specific POB/DOB &POD/DOD for Minnie WINDT, probably my g-grandma (b. ca. 1886 in WI) & who her parents were;
7) specific POB/DOB & POD/DOD for George;
8) specific POB/DOB & POD/DOD for Magdalena;
8) Vivian's maiden name;
9) name of Sonny's 2nd wife as well as his POB/DOB &POD/DOD;
10) name of George's 2nd wife;
11) Annie JAAKS' (Hermann's 2nd wife) maiden name; &
12) Annie and/or Hattie JAAKS' married name;
13) Did Annie have a twin brother, if so what was his name.
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After me comes Southern girl (aka Cecile) with: "Brick Wall with ROSE and JOHNSON" posted on 29 Oct 2002, which reads:
"I have hit a brick wall with my ggrandmother Amanda Jane ROSE and her mother Marguerite JOHNSON. I have Amanda's death certificate and all it tells me is that she was born in Illinois in 1867. I don't know who her father was. Amanda's mother remarried in 1875 in Milam Texas, Sabine County. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank You, Cecile"
An update on 30 Oct 2002 reads: "Amanda's maiden name was ROSE Marguerite's maiden name was JOHNSON. As far as I know Marguerite was married to a ROSE. Marguerite married Oliver WOOD the second time. Amanda is the only child with the ROSE name as far as I know. On Oliver WOOD head stone it has the husband of Mrs. M. J. ROSE and on Marguerite's headstone it has Marguerite J. JOHNSON wife of Oliver WOOD. Oliver and Marguerite had two children, Lafayette WOOD and Ollie WOOD. I have records stating that Ollie was born in Pineland, Texas in Sabine county. I also have land records that Oliver WOOD had land in Rapides, parish, Louisiana in 1886. In 1900 Oliver and Marguerite were in Calcasieu parish , Louisiana because Oliver filed for his pension from the Civil War there because I have the papers. Marguerite was born March 4, 1840 and died July 19,1918 . I don't have any idea who Marguerite's parents were or where she was born. Amanda was born October 6, 1857 and died November 20, 1948 in Oberlin Louisiana in Allen parish. Amanda married James I. GARLAND December 19, 1887 in Rapides parish Louisiana. Thanks for the help. Cecile"
A response from jcwilly, sent 1 Dec 2002, reads: "Kind of interesting. I have an Amanda Melvina Rose in my data base. She is the daughter of Hezekiah Sanford Rose, b 22 Aug 1828 in NY, d Jun 1913, and Dorothy Funk Timmons, b 19 Mar 1835 nr Lafayette, IN, d 31 Mar 1923 Rome, Illinois. Amanda was b 21 Jul 1851 & d Nov 1934 (don't know where either event took place), and she md Henry Gill Mar 1866. I wonder if there is any connection."
Another update from 21 Feb 2003 reads: "....I finally recieved Marguerite's death certificate and it states that she was born in Mississippi and her father was Jim ( James) JOHNSON from Mississippi. I found Marguerite in the 1880 census in Hamilton, Texas with her second husband and I also found out there is another daughter. It just has the other daughter's initials that is T. M. I still have not found out who Amanda ROSE's father was. the 1880 census also states that Amanda was born in Illinois. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Southern girl"
Cecile, do you need to update this posting?
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After Cecile comes Mrlucky (aka: Bob) who first posted on 31 Oct 2002 with: "SMITH/CHENEY family HELP PLEASE ". On 6 Feb 2003 he updated this brickwall to read: "....My gg-grandmother was born, according to her son's birth certificate, in "Painshill, Maryland". I cannot seem to find this on any map. She married a man, Theodore W. SMITH, from Chambersburg, Franklin, PA., so maybe it was close to there. Her son, my g-grandfather, Theodore William SMITH, Jr., was born in Franklin Grove, Lee, Illinois. He married in Sangamon county, Illinois in 1891. His wife, Ophelia (CHENEY) and he had two sons, Clifford and Lowell(my bio-grandfather). Ophelia died and he married her sister Phoebe (CHENEY). They had no children that I know of. In 1920 census, Theodore W. SMITH Jr. was living in Boody,Macon, Illinois with wife Anna and 13 year old son Cecil. I have been unable to find out anything about Clifford SMITH (born c. 1892) or Cecil SMITH, (born c. 1907). Theodore W. SMITH Jr. died in Springfield, Sangamon, Illinois on May 29, 1939. He was born in Lee county,IL Nov.19,1861. Any help with Painshill, Cecil or Clifford would be greatly appreciated. I am "stumped". Bob O."
Bob, do you want to update?
Cheers, Wayne
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| | | From: Masugu | Sent: 8/28/2003 8:48 PM |
Hi Folks;
Just an update as I sift through my data for inclusion in my family data base.
A tip from Mel about an M.C. Green (poss. my g-granddad Melville Green) being in the 1892 Chicago Voter's index led me to compare the address on that entry with one I had from the 1892 city directory--they didn't match! (boooh!) However, since I was already there I checked to see whether Melville's father had voted and found two entries that might fill the bill. The second one, for "C.W. Green" had the same address as was listed for Melville in the city directory--BINGO! This had to be him! This one find gave me his middle initial, his address in 1892, and the approximate dates of: 1) when he arrived in IL (1857); 2) when he moved to Cook Co./Chicago (1879 or 1880); and 3) when he was naturalized (1857). It also told me where he was naturalized--Knox Co. IL (I have no other records of him being in Knox Co.--yet!)
Additionally, the address for M.C. Green was in the same Congressional District, Ward and Precinct as that for C.W. Green and the number of years listed for residence in state for M.C. Green jibed with my g-granddad's age--another BINGO!
So a big thanks to Mel for the tip, it paid off big time. And for everyone on site, this clearly illustrates the precept that one should never throw away any data that doesn't jibe on the first pass or that doesn't look like it fits. Ya never know when you'll get that one datum that'll bring it all together.
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 8/29/2003 1:35 PM |
Wayne, Rather than going for specifics..thought I’d try for leads. Those Iowa Jaacks look promising as kin. Storm coming in, gotta get off. Milwaukee City Directory for 1857 & 1858 Volume 1 First Series Milwaukee: Steam Press of King, Jermain & Co. 205 and 207 East Water Street TAYLOR: Thomas W. carpenter, bds R C. Jacks. JACKS: Robert C. Builder, Market, bt Oneida and Biddle, H 409 Jefferson -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected] Looking for Louis JAACKS, in the Chicago area. He was born around 1920 and died in Lake Zurich IL sometime in the 1970's. I find his wife Mildred but not him in the Social Security Death Index. He was a distant cousin of my father's, Charles Leonard KUSH. Because my father's family is something of a mystery, I would love to find out how they were related. Regards, Linda in Boston .......................................................................................................................................... Henry Jaacks was born in Germany. He was married to Minnie Harder before 1877 in Illinois. Children were: Guess where they were married???? JAACKS, HENRICH HARDER, MINNA C 12/12/1875 094/ 00024448 COOK Herman Jaacks, Emil H. Jaacks. Henry J. Jaacks (Private). Parents: Emil H. Jaacks and Rosa M. Hildbrindt. Herman Jaacks was born in 1877 in Iowa. He appeared on the census in 1925 in Goodrich Twp, Crawford Co, Iowa. Parents: Henry Jaacks and Minnie Harder. He was married to Dora Kolpof before 1908 in Iowa. Children were: Elizabeth Jaacks, Hedwid Jaacks, Minhardt Jaacks, John H. Jaacks, Robert Jaacks, Mary M. Jaacks. John H. Jaacks (Private). Parents: Herman Jaacks and Dora Kolpof. Mary M. Jaacks (Private). Parents: Herman Jaacks and Dora Kolpof. Minhardt Jaacks (Private). Parents: Herman Jaacks and Dora Kolpof. Robert Jaacks (Private). Parents: Herman Jaacks and Dora Kolpof. Sofia M. Jaacks (Private). Parents: Emil H. Jaacks and Rosa M. Hildbrindt. Walter H. Jaacks (Private). Parents: Emil H. Jaacks and Rosa M. Hildbrindt |
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 8/29/2003 3:32 PM |
An interesting take on the spelling of Loman: This photo of two women by the R. W. Hook Photography Studio, 118 Genesee Street in Waukegan, Illinois was found in my mother's cedar chest. I do not know who the two women are, but they may have a connection to people in my family including Wigell, Jouppi, Luomanen, Luoma later Loman, Martikainen, Kumpula, Blomberg, Svensson (Swanson), or Carlsdotter to name a few. |
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 8/29/2003 3:32 PM |
Tragedies and Accidents in Crawford County Previous to 1908 The early months of 1908 were singularly free from fatal accidents, but on September 7th occurred an accident which took from our county that splendid wife and mother Mrs. H. J. Cummings. Mrs. Cummings was hastening to take a train at Arion, evidently thinking that an oncoming train was on the Northwestern instead of the Illinois Central track she stepped directly in front of the swiftly moving train and was instantly killed. On Christmas Day, Mr. Henry Jaacks, a well known retired farmer living in Denison, went to his old farm to visit his son. He went to look over the place, and started to repair a windmill which appeared to him to be out of order, when planking over the well broke with his weight and he fell into the water and was drowned. ...................................................................................................................................... Jaacks, August (Johann Nicolaus August) * 1839 Permission for emigration granted in 1872, with family: 8 Rohlfs, Margaretha Catharina. Children: Wilhelm and Johanna, maybe Gustav, as well. USA Jaacks, Behrend Nicolaus ~ 1834 sof Lucas Hinrich 1.8 Anna née Ruegmann. USA Jaacks, Gustav ~ 1867 Probably sof August 8 Margaretha née Rohlfs. See there. USA Jaacks, Hinrich Julius * 1843 23 Apr. Permission for emigration granted in 1869. Probably emigrated aboard the ship Ohio, from Bremen to Baltimore. USA Jaacks, Johanna (Elise Johanna Auguste) * 1868 dof August 8 Margaretha née Rohlfs. See there. USA Jaacks, Wilhelm (Claus Friedrich Wilhelm) * 1866 sof August 8 Margaretha née Rohlfs. See there. USA Jaak, Anna Wife of Meggers, Frenz, see there. USA ...........................................................................................................................................1908 Crawford County Landowners (A - L) STANDARD ATLAS OF CRAWFORD COUNTY, IOWA Jaacks Henry 30 Goodrich 84 39 Jaacks Henry 31 Goodrich 84 39 .......................................................................................................................................... Morgan Cemetery Crawford County Iowa Jaacks Henry J. 04/06/1849 12/25/1908 5 302 2 Jaacks Minne C. 04/06/1854 10/29/1919 5 302 3 Jaacks Dora 1878 1940 9 155 3 mother Jaacks Herman 1877 1942 9 155 4 father Jaacks Herbert 06/03/1914 11/20/1961 9 155 7 Jaacks John R. 03/30/1910 08/01/1949 9 155 8 Jaacks Meinhard 1908 1982 12 56 8 Jaacks Hilda 1909 1989 12 56 7 .................................................................................................................. |
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| | | From: Masugu | Sent: 8/29/2003 8:16 PM |
Hi Mel;
Thanks for the data. To respond to your postings in order:
Don't know anything about the Jacks in Milwaukee--its a common name in and around Chicago and one I'll probably eventually have to tackle (along with Jakes, Jacques and several others).
In re Louis Jaacks: I've already been in contact with Linda about her "Uncle Louis"--looks like a dead-end, at least so far.
In re Henrich and Minna: I already had this data and some of the IA data but not the stuff about Sophia and Walter's parents although I do have DCs for both Sophia and Walter.
In re Loman: I don't recognize the women but that really doesn't say anything, as almost everything I know about this family is through dint of research--mine or others. There is almost no family lore on most lines of my family. Interestingly, Luoma sounds Finnish or perhaps Baltic (Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia)--there was a lot of to-ing and fro-ing among the people of these countries, as well as of Prussia, Poland and Scandinavia so they could be kin. Jaaks is a fairly common given name in the Baltic countries.
In re "Tragedies and Accidents": The article on Henry Jaacks is a keeper--ya never know.
In re the Crawford Co. Jaacks: I had run across refs to this family before--even an African- American Jaacks, but, as with the IA Jaacks, I don't know enough to tie any of them to the Chicago Jaaks/Jaacks. I can say that August was a popular given name with the Chicago clan(s).
BTW: as a follow-up to my previous post I've found what may be birth-christening records for my g-g-granddad, Chas. W. Green, and what I am 90% sure is a passenger record for him--details below. Of particular interest is the fact that although he's listed as being from London, he's listed under the "Irish Immigrants" rubric. I've always been curious as to why, given the fact that he was b. in England, he always lived in Irish enclaves. This may explain it, his was an Irish family which moved to England prior to his birth. I also have reason to believe that his wife's maiden name was Mulrick--definitely Irish--though I haven't been able to prove it. Also, in re the birth/christening data, the likelihood of this being the correct Charles W. Green is strengthened by the fact that Charles's eldest son (who apparently died in childhood in LaSalle Co. between 1860 and 1870--no death data on him yet) was named Joseph.
As usual, I'm printing-out and databasing all the stuff you sent. Thanks again, Wayne
CHARLES WILLIAM GREEN Male
Event(s):
Birth: 13 FEB 1827
Christening: 27 MAY 1827 Wesley,Walcott, Bath, Somerset, England
Parents:
Father: JOSEPH GREEN
Mother: ELIZABETH
Irish Immigrants: New York Port Arrival Records, 1846-1851
Green, Charles
Gender: Male Embarkation: London
Age: 026 Ship: American Eagle
Occupation: bricklayer Passengers: 131
Residence: London Compartment: Steerage
Native Country: England Destination: New York
Literacy: Unknown Arrival Date: 05 March 1849
Transit Type: Staying in the U.S.
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| | | From: Masugu | Sent: 9/16/2003 8:11 PM |
Hey Guys;
Exciting news! I just got the following in my e-mail! Cheers, Wayne
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If you are still at this email address send me your fax number and I'll fax you what I have. It's definetly the same guy.
Herman Hinrich Jaacks (b 4 Aug 1856 in Holstein Germany , d - ?)
married Magdalena Lohmann (of Rickling, Holstein, Germany) on 21 Feb 1877
His Father was Hans Jaacks (1830 - 1923) who was the brother of my great, great grandfather Marx Hinrich Jaacks (1829 - 1905). Their father was Hans Hinrich Jaacks (1802 - 1860)
Apparently Marx, Hans, and a sister Magdalene Elsabe Jaacks immigrated to East Maine Township Illinois.
Sincerely,
Jeff Haseman
Lafayette Indiana
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| | | From: Masugu | Sent: 9/16/2003 9:20 PM |
Hi Carolyn;
Unfortunately, I don't have a fax machine, but my daughter does. I'm gonna call her tonight.
BTW: here's Jeff's most recent note--it just keeps on geting better and better!
Cheers, Wayne
I was actually looking for something on the other side of my family (Haseman) when I saw your note on Jaaks, Jakes at ancestry.com. I am a newcomer to this but have the existing research of my mothers cousin Jim Bestman. All I have is hard copy and there is a lot of it. My 18 year old daughter got me onto this stuff because of a school project where she needed to know her great grandparents and great great grandparents. Oh well. Thanks for replying. Let me know how to get this stuff to you. If a fax is unavailable, send me your address and I'll mail it to you. If you can, send your data in a word file after youve updated.
My line is Hans Hinrich Jaacks (Jaaks) ---> Marx Hinrich Jaacks (Jaaks) ---> Johann Christian (John) Jaacks ---> Leo Christian Johann John Jaacks ---> Marion Marie Jaacks ---> Me
Tidbits - Apparently my great grandfather Johann Christian was partly responsible for the 1st paved mile in Cook County, Il. Apparently he was also a commissioner of some kind.
I am at work and I don't have the material with me, but there is some other data about someone tending bar at a place the farmers frequented.
That's all for now. Keep in touch. If I find anything else or get updated documents I'll let you know.
I can also email you some old pictures of my g and gg grandparents sometime from home.
Regards, Jeff
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Wayne, Your news is great! Maybe this will help get rid of your brick walls. Penny |
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| | | From: Masugu | Sent: 9/17/2003 3:42 AM |
Thanks Penny;
Jeff has already sent me a partial family tree that clears up many of my questions in re how the various Chicago-area Jaaks/Jaacks were related. Plus I have a lot of data they don't have--they didn't use Web resources to do their research so it pretty much complements what I've found. Cheers, Wayne |
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| | | From: CWC | Sent: 9/17/2003 1:56 PM |
Congrats on your new info. I know how much it means.
CW |
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| | | From: Melody | Sent: 9/17/2003 2:35 PM |
Wayne, Really Great News...but it was expected. I had a dream about you last night which can only mean good things for you. (Sorry I couldn't stop cleaning to visit, you probably would have told me then).?????? Melody |
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| | | From: Masugu | Sent: 9/17/2003 2:55 PM |
Thanks all--I appreciate it. From the sound of things this Jim Bestman put together a tome equivalent to what I got from my 2nd cousin on the Straight/Conley clan. Its already a quantum leap on what I had, since there is already a lot of data on-line about Marx Hinrich Jaacks and family. Jeff is gonna try to put us in touch so It'll be a 2-way street.
Mel--you gotta get out more if your dreaming about me (ROFL)! |
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