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| | | From: ForeverAmber (Original Message) | Sent: 7/15/2002 6:05 AM |
Pinky has just raised an interesting question: do we think Mary, Queen of Scots conspired to murder her second husband (& cousin......the tree forketh in mysterious ways), Henry, Lord Darnley? Opinions? |
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This question is much like, did Henry II order Thomas Becket's murder or did his friends simply know he would appreciate it? Personal opinion here...I think she did say something along the lines of, "I don't want to know anything about it...but GET RID OF HIM !" |
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I CONCUR !! She may have said those exact words. |
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Greetings, one and all! I am not cetain I share in the general consensus regarding Mary's complicity in Darnley's death. From what I have read, he was an absolute nightmare.....young, irresponsible, drunken, carousing, possibly bisexual, physically abusive toward her. As a "king" he was useless in statecraft (not that Mary was much better!). What I find telling is that the royal couple had been moving toward a reconciliation due to Darnley's ill health, Mary had frequently spent the night at Kirk O Fields, and had been supposed to stay there the night Darnley was killed......but she changed her mind at the last minute! Events may have moved a bit faster than anticipated, but the fact that Mary did not bring James to see his father as she had been doing is a little suspiscious. |
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A l i t t l e suspicious? As in 1906 San Francisco had a little earthquake and fire? |
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| I have to agree with Annie about this. Mary had by all accounts married a complete git. There were only two option for her, divorce (frowned upon and unthinkable for her) or wait for her husband to die. She probably mentioned this to the people around her, and they hastened his death. I don’t think that she was involved in the planning and details as we know she hated things to do with death, but she would have known something was going to happen (she was so infactuated with Bothwell, the murderer in chief that she would have known something!) The trouble is when servents and associates try and help their masters and mistresses..they usually end up just getting them into more trouble, like when Amy Robsart “fell�?down the stairs. |
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A surprising comparison, but a very good one, between the similarities of Mary, Darnley and Bothwell and the other trio, Robert Dudley, Amy and Elizabeth! Both "unwanted" spouses were mortally ill, with (most likely) a short time left to live anyway. Both Dudley and Mary had someone "waiting" for the time they would be "free" (well, Dudley thought so, at any rate). Both had their unwanted spouse "taken care of" (no matter how it hapened). The irony of it was, Mary got to marry Bothwell, although they had very little time together, while Dudley did not get to marry Elizabeth but spent the rest of his life (for the most part...when he wasn't "out of favor") basking in her light (so to speak)! |
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| Good point Annie. Mary and Elizabeth were faced with the same choice after the deaths of Amy and Darnley, the both made opposing choices, Mary in my opinion took the "rash" decision and lost her kingdom, Elizabeth took the wiser decision and her and Dudley managed to live their lives together......the question is, who made the RIGHT choice? Mary did what she wanted and succeeded in marrying Bothwell (no matter how little time they had together), but Elizabeth and Dudley ahd to live with the fact that they could never marry..and that must have been hard..... |
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| | | From: karrie | Sent: 11/20/2002 1:12 AM |
I haven't researched Mary Queen of Scots properly for some time now, but is it definate that she wanted to mary Lord Bothwell, didn't he "abduct" her at one point? And didn't Mary want to marry someone with royal blood, like Darnley, Bothwell was just one of her Lords? And is it true that Darnley was probably in an advancing stage of syphilis? Karrie  |
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no, I don't think she consciously conspired in the murder but she certainly went along w/the idea (if she knew what was to happen); she just wanted out . . . & Bothwell was happy to oblige her; never been much interested in Mary QoS; I have always thought of her as a silly woman who got herself into situations & then wanted someone else to fix it; well, I guess you could say EI finally solved all her problems; Scholastica |
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