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Amazons : List of Bad Foods or Fruits Etc.
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From: MSN NicknamePetsrAngels  (Original Message)Sent: 1/18/2008 9:57 PM
My 1 yr.old Amazon name Allie Too..Needs help on Foods that is Good for her.So I can take special care of her in every way.If any one has any info or sites or personal ideas of your own I could use the help at any time.Thank You God Bless, PetsrAngels   P.S.   and any favorites of foods for an Amazons too for Allie Too......L.O.L


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From: MSN NicknameSunriseAviariesSent: 1/18/2008 10:53 PM
Hi there. I am mom to 20 Amazons. Most of the time they are the easiest ones to please when it comes to food. Just remember, fresh foods high in vitamin A, plenty of calcium for the females of breeding age. No Sunflower seeds. I feed Volkman Macaw seed, Zupreem and Roudybush pellets and fresh fruits, veggies, pasta brown rice, sprouts , beans, birdie bread and many other fresh and frozen things. Variety is the key. No salty, sugar, caffine, etc.. Plain popped popcorn, not microwaved is a good treat. Unsalted crackers, whole wheat with peanut butter. Stay away from peanuts and don't give too many almonds. Treats are ok . The fresher the better. Sweet potato, boiled, baked or even cut up like french fries and baked are excellent.
I think you have a good start here. I have also attached my recipes for my birdie breads. Everyone else feel free to try it.
Amy
 Birdie Bread Mixes.rtf  

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From: MSN NicknameScots101Sent: 1/18/2008 11:00 PM
Amy gave you a great start on foods that are good and nutritious...
Also it would be a good idea to take a look at our left hand sidebar... lots of information there regarding what we feed... what to avoid and also we included the safe and unsafe plants and tree's...
 
Unfortunately I couldn't open up Amy's recipes..
 
 

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From: MSN Nicknameannieokie100Sent: 1/19/2008 1:24 AM
Another no-no. No avocado or chocolate.
 
Also remember that a bird doesn't need as many calories as we do. One little Wheat Thin is about half the calories needed for a whole day for an amazon sized bird. Amazons have a tendency to become overweight easily so be careful not to overfeed and to be sure he gets lots of exercise.
 
Here's a good site that will help.
Annie

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From: 1GoodBirdSent: 1/19/2008 7:10 AM
I'll just add a couple things to the "no" list, that I've seen on some lists, but not always.  I do avoid them, because I've heard of  onions causing problems with other animals, and I've had problems with certain commonly used mushrooms myself,   so figure "better safe than sorry",
 
So add to the "no" list :
 
Onions and mushrooms.

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From: MSN NicknameAbbyBCLady1Sent: 1/19/2008 7:23 AM
GB, onions and mushrooms are on my "no" list for the same reasons as you.
 
As far as the onions go, here is what Gillian Willis, Toxicologist, has to say about them:
Abby

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From: MSN NicknamemomnoahSent: 1/19/2008 9:22 AM
I have added the recipes belowfor you Etta. I will also add them to our
"What's In Your Bird's Bowl?" page for future reference. Anyone with a good bird recipe can share it here. Just click the page name for a short cut there. FYI it it on the left side bar, down towards the bottom, just under the human recipe page, "What's Cooking?". For conversion measurements UK to US, go here: http://www.rampantscotland.com/recipes/blrecipe_terms.htm.
 
 

Amy's Fruit and Veggie Birdie Breads

The Birdie Bread is easy to make. I have 36 birds to make it for so I make up 3 at a time. You can too and just freeze the rest or get the small bread pans and split it up. The mini ones are the best for 1 bird.

      FRUIT BIRDIE BREAD

Makes at least 3 large loaves of bread or better.

3 apples peeled and cut up in small chunks

Half cup of Currants

Half cup of Blueberries(fresh, frozen or dried)

Half cup of Cranberries(fresh or dried)

2 bananas

4 eggs with the shell(wash them first)

1 cup of juice(apple or orange or I use Pomegranate & Blueberry)

3 cups of Jiffy Baking Mix

1 tsp. Of Cinnamon

1 tsp of Ginger

1 tsp of Powdered Cuttle Bone (if you have it) (Smart Cuttlebone)

1 tsp. of Vitamin D Supplement(D Nutrical)

Optional Ingredients: Peanut Butter, Pumpkin, sliced almonds, pear, any fruit or nut that can be baked. I also add Pellets to the mix. Either Harrisons, Roudy Bush or Zupreem.

After you pour the mix into greased bread pans sprinkle flax seed on top of bread.

If the mix is too stiff add a little more juice. If it's too thin add a little corn meal or more jiffy mix.

Bake for 1 hour (for regular bread pans) at 350º F

For Mini pans check with tooth pick after 45 min.

Bread should not be too moist in the middle when done and be golden brown on top.

 

      VEGGIE BIRDIE BREAD

4 eggs(washed with shell)

3 cups of Jiffy Mix

1 cup of Milk or Juice

1 cup of thawed frozen mixed veggies  or unsalted canned mix

Half cup of thawed frozen zuccini  or fresh

Half tsp of Garlic Powder

Half tsp of Italian seasoning

1 tsp of powdered Cuttle Bone(if you have it) (Smart Cuttlebone)

1 tsp of Vitamin D supplement(D Nutrical)

Bake at 350º F for 1 hour.

You can put fresh veggies in place of frozen too and also pre-cook Sweet Potato and add that in.

Or a can Of Squash or fresh Butternut Squash

You can also add the pellets to the veggie one.

I also add fresh or dried Cranberries to the veggie one.

Serve warm..

Please make sure to tell the humans in the house not to eat it because of the egg shell and pellets..LOL


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From: MSN NicknameSunriseAviariesSent: 1/19/2008 1:34 PM
Thanks Erika. I sent them to her personally but I guess the file on them is one she can't open. I suppose I could have done that too, copy & paste..LOL
Hugs,
Amy

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From: MSN NicknameScots101Sent: 1/20/2008 3:59 PM
Thanks Amy I got it and then I see Erika also posted them in our recipe section for the birds...
 
I have some cranberries in the freezer that I want to add to the next batch of breads I make...

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From: MSN Nickname-linlam-Sent: 3/7/2008 10:33 AM
Hope you don't mind me asking, but what is Jiffy Baking Mix?
Is there a UK equivalent?
I quite fancy trying  these recipes. Thank you

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From: MSN NicknameAbbyBCLady1Sent: 3/7/2008 1:53 PM
Hi, Lin
 
I am in Canada, and we don't have the Jiffy Baking mix here either. However, we do have Bisquick, which can be used instead. I believe that you have Bisquick too? However, you can also make it yourself. Here are a couple. I even converted them from metric to imperial! lol
Homemade Bisquick
 
4 c (2.1293 Liters) Flour - lightly spooned into cup
2/3 c  (157 mL) Instant non fat dry milk
2 tbsp (30 mL) Baking powder
1 tsp (5 mL) Salt
2/3 c  (157 mL) Shortening
 
- Mix dry ingredients thoroughly.
- Cut in shortening with pastry blender or mixer until fine crumbs are obtained and shortening is evenly dispersed.
- Store in tightly covered container in refrigerator. Use within 3 months.
Here's one for use when the recipe calls for buttermilk baking mix
Lo-Fat Homemade Bisquick
 
9 cups flour (2115 mL) (can use half whole wheat and half unbleached)
3/4 cup (180 mL) baking powder
1 cup +2 tablespoons (235 mL + 60 mL) dry milk
4 teaspoons (20 mL) salt
1-3/4 cup (415 mL) applesauce

Use in recipes calling for buttermilk baking mix.
I hope you have fun baking!
 
Cheers!
 
Abby

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From: MSN Nicknameannieokie100Sent: 3/7/2008 4:11 PM
Whoa, that last recipe is so loaded with sodium!! The baking powder volume is huge and there's so much regular salt in the mix. Can you recheck the recipe, please Abby? In most cases 9 cups of flour would not call for that much baking powder and salt.
Most of my recipes call for about 1 or 2 teaspoonsful baking powder per 2 cups flour.
 
I just measured out 3/4 cup baking powder and that is 32 teaspoonsful. 1 teaspoonful of baking powder has 480 mg sodium.
 
One teaspoonful of table salt has 2325 mg sodium.
See where I am going?
 
I truly am not trying to be smarty. This just scares me for the birds.
Annie

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From: ÁvãláñçhëSent: 3/7/2008 6:04 PM
You're not going to believe this..... but I just received a parcel from my mom in Florida today with a dozen boxes of the Jiffy Corn Muffin Mix in it!  (She also included a couple of boxes of Betty Crocker Gingerbread Mix, as well... one is in the oven baking right now, she's awesome!)  I can't believe I came in here and found this thread mentioning the Jiffy mix!!
 
I have spent the past couple of years searching and searching for it, incredulous that Canadians could get by without this simple staple!  I ask for things sometimes and people just look at me (an American) like I've got two heads.... it's hard to even find yellow cake mix sometimes.  And don't even get me started on Bell's seasoning... mom has to send that too!!
 
I have made birdie bread in the past using cornmeal, which I'm sure is available anywhere.  I don't have the recipe I used but I'm sure a Google search will turn up a good one.
 
I wish Boo liked fruits and veggies as much as he likes his birdie bread.  I know I've spoiled him with french toast and such...  
 
Why are peanuts bad?  Boo likes those.  :( 

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From: MSN Nicknameannieokie100Sent: 3/7/2008 6:22 PM
Ava, we have several mixes here that are not available to Canadians and Europeans. Cornmeal is not in Europe or UK. Finally realized it is called polenta over there. Polenta is a bit courser ground than the Quaker cornmeal we use but I like the coarser texture. More like stone ground cornmeal.
 
I love BC gingerbread. I also like Pillsbury cranberry muffin mix. Only available here at Christmas so we buy 6 boxes and I bag them and freeze them.
I don't know Bell's seasoning. What is it used in?
 
Peanuts are an underground growing legume which often have a fungus mold called aspergillus. Look up aflatoxin. It attacks the lungs or air sacs. It can be deadly. Human grade are much less likely to have it, perhaps due to better, cleaner storage til shipping. Many peanuts in bird food mixes have a blackish spotting. I am not sure that's the mold but it sure worries me.
I have recently read that some tree nuts and corn can have the same mold.
Nuts are good for the birds, especially almonds and walnuts. I do feed almonds daily to my birds but only unshelled. Most people feed with shell which may be perfectly OK. I just prefer unshelled so I can see each nutmeat.
 
Send gingerbread!!
Annie

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