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The WORD : Adding to the Word
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 7/24/2007 10:31 PM
From: joie  (Original Message) Sent: 7/14/2004 2:02 PM

~ Adding to the Word ~

De 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

De 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Pr 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Re 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Now there is four witnesses of God, four different Scriptures requiring us not to add to his words or take away from them. It is such a dreadful sin that God has told us He will add the plagues written in the book to them who add to his word and that He will take their part out of the book of life who take away from His Word. In other words, this sin will cost you your eternal life plus torment of plagues here in this life. So my sentence to everyone is this: it is a very dangerous sin, with eternal consequences, to add or take away from the Word of God.

Yet we find that every doctrine of any of the present day churches are built upon lies; words which were added to God’s Word and things taken away from His word. I really could write a message so long it would be a whole book on the doctrines which have been built by adding to His Word and taking away from His Word.

Then there is the sin of not rightly dividing or interpreting the Word by using Scripture to interpret Scripture. Men have just made up stuff to try to fit the Word into their ideas, which were only handed down junk from others.

Now I will just touch on a few of the major doctrines which are taught in the church today, but not taught in the Word of God.

I have written many messages already explaining how every single word of the trinity doctrine is stuff NOT written in the Word. So it is all just made-up lies. The Word ‘trinity�?itself is absent from the Word, therefore could not be true. They claim God is manifest in three persons. This statement cannot be found anywhere in the Word of God. They claim that God the Father is the first person in a Godhead. Yet there is no such thing as any first, second or third person. In fact there is no person at all. God is a spirit.

They claim that we are a trinity, therefore God is a trinity. Yet the Word says we are a body made up of many members. Jesus said God is a Spirit. He never said God is a body, soul and spirit. Neither did He say God is a triune being or a trinity. They say God incarnated himself into human flesh and was here inside Mary then birthed of Mary. Yet I cannot find these statements anywhere in God’s Holy Word. So I ask you, where did this lying doctrine come from? Every church teaches Jesus was God incarnated in flesh. Where is even one Scripture saying this? I know of none. The word ‘incarnate�?is not once in the Word of God, so how could it be true? Do you suppose that God left it up to carnal man to decide what is true about God? IF it is not written in the Word, it is a lie.

Then there is another lie which says that Mary was not even the mother of Jesus. They say she was just an incubator. Now I ask anyone who believes this hideous lie to show me one single verse which says this stuff. I heard a man, whom millions claim was a present-day prophet [ignoring the fact that the Word declares that the sun went down over the prophets after John the Baptist. The Law and the prophets were UNTIL John], yet this man said that God did not have to use a woman to bring his son into the world; that He could have put His seed on a stump! Can you imagine such an evil statement? And millions of ‘supposed-to-be Bible-believing people�?just accept this lie without question.

Lu 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

What does the Word of God say about this matter?

Lu 1:43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

Lu 2:7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

This says that Jesus was her son. So what do you believe?

Lu 2:34 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;

Lu 2:43 And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.

Lu 2:48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.

Now this is not the only verses which say that Mary was the mother of Jesus; but I have given five different verses saying this. So, who do you believe - this lying prophet or the Word of God? People, this is very serious business, so don’t take this message lightly or scoff at it.

I am just amazed at how easily so many people, including preachers, will just swallow these lies and scoff at the truth of God’s eternal Word. I am amazed at how easily these ministers will just repeat things this lying prophet (and of course other liars) said, knowing they are not written in the Word and tell it for truth. I heard a minister saying in a message that one should not add or take away from the Word; that it must be written to be true. Yet this same man, in the same message preached one of the most hideous lies ever brought into this world, which most certainly is NOT written anywhere in God’s Word.

So I will touch on that big, horrible lie here, too.

They say that Eve committed physical adultery with some creature whom they claim is the serpent in the Garden of Eden. They claim this serpent was some animal creature between man and monkeys. They claim that the devil used this serpent and talked through him and deceived Eve into committing adultery with him. They claim that from this adulterous affair Cain was born. They claim that Adam was not the father of Cain.

But what does the Word of God say about this?

Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

Now is that hard to understand? I don’t see how anyone could miss the meaning of the above verse. It is plainly saying that Adam had marital relations with Eve and from this holy union Cain was born.

I am asking anyone who believes this lie to find me one single verse which says any of that stuff. It cannot be done. It is NOT written in God’s Word at all.

So, who was this serpent who deceived Eve?

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Now that verse plainly said that the old serpent is the same as the Devil, Satan and the great dragon. They are all one and the same being. So this proves that the serpent was NOT any animal creature, but indeed the very devil himself. Any other verse prove this? Sure. Cast out? Where is that in the Word? In Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Now how much plainer would it need to be said? Both of these verses say clearly that the dragon is that old serpent, which is the Devil and Satan. See?

Now back to the garden for more proof:

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

This says that the serpent was MORE subtle than ANY BEAST of the field. Yet this false doctrine says that he was one of the beast of the field. If this were true, then the verse would have had to say, the serpent was the most subtle beast of the field. But this serpent is never connected with the beast this way. If he were more subtle than ANY BEAST OF THE FIELD, then this is including any and all of the beast in comparison.

Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Above is another verse showing that the serpent is never compared with the beast of the field as being one of them. He was cursed above every beast of the field; all of them. It is that carnal mind. As in Adam all die. To be carnally minded is death. The day you eat you shall die. The law is death. This is the carnal mind. Adam hid his sin in his bosom. He never repented; he never confessed. He lied, so his sin is held against him forevermore. Adam is the devil and Satan.

Did any of these people believing this lie every look up the meaning of the word serpent? Apparently not. It means a wicked man. So some wicked man deceived Eve. Who was it? The father of Cain.

1John 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

They use this verse to say that Cain was the son of the devil. Well, this is actually the truth; but not the way they are teaching it. Cain was of that wicked one, that old serpent, the devil and Satan. So who is this? The father of Cain. Who was this? Adam knew Eve his wife and she conceived and bear Cain.

There you have it. ADAM. Yes, Adam was that old wicked serpent called the Devil and Satan who deceived his wife into taking of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the LAW. Does not the Word say by the LAW is the KNOWLEDGE OF SIN? Sure it does. Does it not also teach good? Sure it does. Yet this false teaching says that sex was this tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Where is any written Scripture saying this? I know of none. Do any of you have even one verse saying this? Let’s see it if you do.

Now another very obvious way to prove this is a lying teaching, one which those who believe this lie completely overlook, is this: The Word clearly says that Adam did the very same thing which Eve did. Adam ATE of the very same �?I>tree�?which Eve ate of. So if Eve’s sin was having sex with some animal called the serpent, then SO DID ADAM! It is time this truth is brought to the light!

If Eve committed adultery, then Adam committed homosexuality! For they claim the serpent was a male creature, then Adam had sex with another male. But you never hear them get into this part of the Scripture. Why? Because they just believe and accept any lie mama Jezebel brings up with her Baal prophets. Yes, they claim the teacher of this lie was a prophet. Well I just for the first time agree with them; yes he was a Baal prophet. If not, then he could not have taught such an ungodly lie!

 

So now I ask all of you who teach this filthy lie, to bring and show me even one single verse which says Eve committed physical adultery with someone or a beast. Prove it by the Word. Prove all things. You must find at least two verses which say a thing for it to be established as truth. Is it written? If not, it is lies. Let God’s Word be true and every man’s a lie.

The things men have ADDED to God’s Word in order to teach this filthy lie is just unbelievable! Especially to hear those who openly proclaim that we must go by the Written Word and not add to it! Yet they don’t hear themselves speaking all these added lies! They have spiritual scales over their eyes. They are blind. They tell us that all Adam did was have sex with his wife. If this be true, then pray tell me how he ‘ate�?of the ‘tree�?of the knowledge of good and evil! The Word declares that he ate of this tree also.

So if you claim all he did was have sex with Eve, then are you saying that Eve was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? And if this is the answer then how did Eve eat of this tree? How did she eat of herself? See? There are just too many questions which their lie cannot answer. How was having sex with his wife a sin? God had blessed them and told them to be fruitful and multiply and reproduce the earth. There is only one way to do this. Having sex with his wife could not have been a sin. He did the very same thing she did. He ate of the very same tree she ate of. You who believe this lie, you had better get into the Word and do some serious studying. Get out of that man’s books and into the KJV Word of God!

Then we have a church which claims to be the true Apostolic Church. They claim to teach the very same thing which the apostles taught. But let’s just examine this doctrine and see if it matches the written Word.

This church went off the deep end to get away from the trinity lie. They brought up one even worse. They claim that the human man, Jesus, Mary’s son, was God in flesh and that he is the only ‘person�?in the Godhead. They also, as the trinity folks, claim that God left heaven; got into Mary’s womb; and was born of a woman; lived here as a man and was then killed by sinful man and went into hell fire. God did this! Can you imagine this? Yes, both of these doctrines teach the very same thing = that God was born of woman. That man killed the eternal God. God was dead according to them. God was nursed at a woman’s breast, according to them.

They claim that God, Lord God, LORD, Father, Son and Holy Ghost are all titles of God and not names. Yet in studying this, I have not found even one reference in all the Word of God to any title. I have written a long message on just this subject proving that God has many, many names. All of them WRITTEN in the Book. God is his name. LORD is his name. Jealous is His name. Jerusalem is his name.

I have not found one single ‘title�?for God in the entire Written Word. Now if any of you know of one verse giving God a title, please show it to me; for Strong’s Concordance does not list any title. They made this up to cover up for their lack of knowledge of God’s Word. They do not understand the Word because they have built their house on a false foundation. You must be on the true foundation in order to ever understand any of the Word of God.

They also claim that the one God was manifest in three offices. This is also a lie made up to cover up for their false doctrine. Strange, isn’t it? They claim that God was manifested in three offices and the trinity folks claim that God was manifested in three persons. Seems they both must belittle God down to just three of something! Now I just want a Scripture saying either one. I have asked some of them for a verse saying this, and they say there is none. NONE? Then why are they teaching it? If it is NOT written, then you are adding to this word and changing it. Same sin Satan did in the beginning. If you change one word, you make a lie out of it. Do you not fear to do this?

I have studied this out and have not found even one office of God written in the Word. I ask you all, what does this mean? An office of God? What is it? Where is it in the Word? They claim that father is an office; son is an office and I suppose this means that the Holy Ghost is just an office? After all, they say father, son and Holy Ghost are offices and titles, so what does that mean the Holy Ghost actually is? Someone explain! If you can’t explain, it is because you do not understand; and if you do not understand, how can you explain or teach it? Do you not fear to teach made-up junk?

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/24/2007 10:33 PM
From: joie Sent: 7/14/2004 2:06 PM

 Part 2:

Were the apostles baptized with an office? A title? If so, how? These same people will never reason with someone who differs with them. They will not let anyone take the Word of God and truly explain these things. Their false church and false prophet means more to them than knowing the real truth and being built upon the right foundation which can stand the storms. This foundation is also the only means of receiving the truth of God’s Word.

Who does the Word of God declare Jesus to be? What does the Word of God declare the true foundation to be?

Mark 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

Notice this said Jesus is the Son of God. I am asking you who say Jesus was God to find me even one verse which says this. Where is it recorded that Jesus was or is God? I have not found it in the Word of God. The only place is where God himself Called Jesus God. This is that name he inherited. It was conveyed upon him by God. God set Jesus up to be our God. This is the revelation which Thomas received. We are to worship and honour God’s Son even as we worship and honour God. That is all this means. It does not mean that Jesus was or is God.

Mt 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Now here is the answer which Peter gave to Jesus when he asked whom do you say that I am. He did not say You are God. Now did he? No! He said you are the Son OF the living God. Jesus declared that this is the right foundation and that His Father in heaven revealed this to Peter. Yet according to this false teaching, Jesus was the Father and not in heaven right then. Who do you believe?

Lu 9:20 He said unto them, But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, The Christ of God.

See Luke said that Peter said the Christ of God. He did not say You are God. It is not recorded anywhere.

John 17:1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Here, just before the crucifixion Jesus was praying TO HIS FATHER. (Who was he praying to? Himself?). He is talking to someone other than himself; else this would be very foolish speech. He said, to someone, glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. You gave him power over all flesh. This is eternal life, that they might know YOU, THE ONLY TRUE GOD--AND-- JESUS CHRIST, WHOM YOU --SENT.

Now does that make any sense If Jesus is God and the only one? I say no. Did Jesus SEND himself? Was he calling himself the only true God? No, of course not.

This church claims to preach the very same message the apostles taught. Well, I ask for someone to bring and show me one verse where Peter, Paul, John, James or any other NT Minister ever taught that Jesus is God. Where is one declaration written in the Word of God where anyone confessed to believing that Jesus is God? Every declaration of faith which I have ever read in the Word, they all said I believe that you are the SON--OF--GOD. I have never read where they said you are God. I have never read where Jesus said I am God.

If Jesus were God, why did he not teach us that? Why did Peter not teach us that? Paul? Any of them, why did they not tell us that if that is what we are supposed to believe?

John 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

Now this false apostolic church claims that God is one, and they say that means there is only 1 person in the Godhead. But read the above verses. Jesus himself is praying to his Father that we ALL MIGHT BECOME ONE -AS [same way] THEY ARE ONE.

Paul agreed with this in Galatians and said You are ALL ONE.

So how does this false claim that there is only 1 person in the Godhead fit this? It cannot. This shows that every single child of God are all ONE. Many are ONE. But is that what they teach? No.

Mt 14:33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

Now see, that says they believed truth that Jesus was the Son of God. You cannot find a place where anyone said I believe you are God. Check the concordance. Look all down through Matthew and the other books. It says over and over that Jesus was the Son of Man. Son of man. Son of man. Son of David. Son of man. But only a few places says he was the Son of God. Not one says he was God. So I ask you WHY?

They claim that when Jesus said to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, that he was only telling them titles of God. It is a lie. They claim that the reason Peter and Paul baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ is because Jesus is the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost. They say that father, son and Holy Ghost are just titles of this 1 God. Did Peter and Paul, the true apostles teach this? If so, where is one verse saying this?

If it is necessary for these preachers today to say this in order to explain Matt. 28:19, then why did not Peter also say this? And if Holy Ghost is just a title, then were they baptized with a title? How? Were they filled with a title? Did a title speak in tongues through them? MY, MY! Such lies to cover up a false doctrine! How does the Spirit of God and of Christ dwell in us if all we have in us is a title? Somebody, answer this!

Because that is NOT the true answer. Paul laid out the headship. He said that God is the head of Christ. Christ is the head of man. We are all under the headship of Jesus, the Son. We do not have the right or authority to call or invoke the authority or power of the Eternal God, the Father. Only Jesus has this right or authority. That is why the true apostles baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ. They were honouring the place God had placed us = under the authority of Jesus Christ.

Paul said for us to do all things in the Name of Jesus Christ. He taught that only Jesus is under the authority of God, the Father. This is why they only used the name of Jesus. Why do these preachers today not tell us this? Why did they have to make up a lie that father, son and holy ghost are just titles? Where is any proof of this?

Why do they not feel they must obey the Word which says to prove all things? Ask them for Scripture on these things and they will tell you there is none. So then why are they saying it? By what authority are they teaching such things? Are they not adding to the Word, taking away from the Word and changing the Word? Sure they are. Do they fear to do this? Of course not. Mama Jezebel taught them this. She is the one they fear to disobey and upset.

So see that every church in the land today are either teaching one or the other of these lies. These are major lies against God himself. So how are they a true church? Can’t be. Yet these ministers of Jezebel will tell us that unless we attend some of their local assemblies each week, and listen to them teach their lies, that we are not true Christians. I ask you, how is listening to these lies going to help perfect me or anyone? Jesus said only the truth can set us free. They are bound hand and foot in lies and error.

Then we have in the land churches which deny all the Spiritual gifts for our day. They claim that God has done away with them. They also deny the Baptism of the Holy Ghost for today. They now claim that all you must do in order to obtain salvation is to just say you believe. That saves you for eternity. Where does the Word say this? It does not.

 

Where does the Word say the gifts of the Spirit are not for us today? Where does it say I cannot now get healed by only prayer? This was only for the early church? Where and why did God leave you and me out? Why will Jesus not heal us today? It is of Satan. It is a false church. It is lies. They have taken this out of God’s Word; so God will take their part out of the Book of life.

These same churches teach that one must continue to sin every day. They say we can never have victory over sin; that we cannot quit sinning. Yet the very word ‘repentance�?means to turn away from one’s sin and amend your life. Jesus said he has perfected forever those who are sanctified. Yet these false churches teach one will live in sin all our life. The Word said that if we sin we are of the devil. In this are the children of God manifested from the children of the devil = if they sin they are of the devil.

God said if we are born of him we cannot sin. So where did this lie come from? It is taking away the perfection in Jesus�?blood out of the Word. They are declaring that the blood of Jesus is no more than the blood of bulls and goats which can never take away sins. So if you declare that Jesus can never take away your sins, you are denouncing the power in his blood. Your part will be taken out of the Book of life. This is very serious business.

Many of the ministers of these churches commit all manner of sin, even adultery, fornication regularly and think nothing about it. They claim they are still a Christian. This is taking out the perfection Jesus gives His children. Jesus said go your way and sin no more. Yet these wolves in sheep clothing tell people they can sin every day and still be alright with God so long as they attend the church services and especially if they pay their tithes. Yet tithing is of the old covenant which God did away with. So where are they a true church? Cannot be. They do not teach the truth of God’s word.

Then they proceed to set up a salary for the one they call their pastor. And If a visiting preacher comes around he too must receive a fat salary for his sermon. This is nothing short of the mark of the beast. The Word said you cannot buy and sell EXCEPT [means unless] you have this mark of the beast. Jesus said FREELY you have received, FREELY --GIVE.

It is not speaking of material things. It is speaking of ministering. You must minister freely what God so freely gave you. If He gave you a true message, you must freely give that out. If He gave you a gift, you must freely administer this gift. To take pay for it is to be involved in buying and selling the things of God. It is never speaking of buying and selling material, earthly goods. Yet this false church claims it pertains to earthly goods, and deny that it pertains to the things of God. Jesus spoke of the things of God.

To buy and/or sell the things of God is the mark of the beast. It will doom your soul to hellfire. So this makes them the children of Satan. They are changing the Word to suit themselves. They are wolves in sheep clothing. They change their garments, [spiritually] just as soon as they walk out of their churches. They do not study the Word for truth. They only practice a sermon they have already heard taught and receive their salary for giving it out in another scramble of words.

Most of them get a few thoughts together and repeat and repeat and repeat them over and over as if speaking to one-year olds. They have no real message, so they must repeat and repeat to fill up their time and make their salary for this Sunday. Yet going and listening to this is supposed to save our souls! It makes no difference how much time you spend in prayer, Scripture study and Scripture meditation and teaching, or witnessing and worship AT HOME, if you do not attend their ‘show�?you are doomed to hell! You are an outcast and not in with God! This is their ‘tale�?

Any time a question of doctrine came up in the true Apostolic church, the members got together and discussed this, even had heated debates and arguments. But they let the Holy Ghost show them the truth of the Word and then they all agreed. But where are any ministers who will handle questions this way today? Are they truly Apostolic churches? No.

They say we must celebrate Jesus�?birthday on Dec. 25. Where is even one Scripture saying this? Where did they get this? It was added to the Word. It is not written, yet they will even close their �?I>worship�?services to do this evil holiday. They declare that December 25 is His birthday and that we are to eat, drink and be merry at this time. Where is even one verse or written word saying to do this?

Did not our very first verse in this message say to only do what God commands us to do; not adding or diminishing one thing? Then why are they not afraid to add this Satanic holiday as part of their �?I>worship�? And not only this one, but all the rest of the world’s evil, devil-worship holidays. They just love all this silly mess! Did God command it? No! They added it to his word and his �?I>worship�?

These false ministers claim they are the five-fold ministry sent to perfect the people of God. Now I ask you, how is all these lies going to perfect anyone? How is a church which leads their people in all these devil-worship holidays going to perfect any saints? They do not ever lead their members into learning how to pray, study the word, or witness or any of the other things which truly helps one grow up to perfection. Do they teach them to abstain for all sin?

They claim you must be faithful or loyal to some ‘local�?assembly. I ask for even one Scripture saying this? If there is no written Word teaching this, then somebody ADDED this to the Word. What is the penalty for adding to the Word?

God will add the plagues of the book to you. So look where almost everyone is headed! They claim that unless you ‘attend�?some local assembly regularly and pay tithes, you will lose out with God and be lost. Where is even one verse saying this? If it is not written, who gave them the authority to teach this?

Now another big lie which lying preachers and teachers have added to the word is this: the church is going to be ‘caught away�?and carried off into the sky somewhere during a seven year tribulation period. Now I ask for one verse teaching this. It is not written, yet almost all the churches dote on this big lie. Yes, even people who absolutely live in adultery, spend their time in front of the devil’s pulpit [TV], tell lies habitually, practice all manner of deception and hypocrisy, will tell you they are ready for a rapture! Where did they get this lie? It is not written in the Book, so someone added this to the Word.

By believing this lie, they completely miss the beautiful truth that we, the true Saints of God, will be here pouring out the wrath of the Lamb on this world and doing away with the sinners. They will never understand the two witnesses because of believing this rapture lie.

They read the Word strictly carnal. They believe the ‘clouds�?which Jesus returns in are the water-vapor clouds up in the atmosphere. They do not seek Scriptural meanings for these words. They fell to see that a cloud also means a great congregation of people. They fell to see that this means the Saints. Jesus will return in US. We will then be empowered with the Baptism of Fire to burn up the stubble. How will this occur if the Saints are carried off into the wild blue yonder?

Seven years? Where did that come from? Where is it written? There are no Scriptural understanding to any of these teachings. They are added to the Written Word. Where does the Word say Saints will be carried off this earth? Where is air? Right here where I sit right now. I am now in the air. Else I would be dead. Carnal minded lies!

Now to show you how they twist the word by not understanding: Paul said several times that the resurrection does not take place until the last or seventh trumpet. He also made it very clear that the resurrection will occur before this meeting with the Lord in the air. Yet they say this meeting the Lord in the air takes place before any tribulation. But if you study Revelation you will see that all of the tribulation is finished BEFORE that seventh trumpet sounds. So then how can a ‘rapture�?[which is not written in the Word] take place before any tribulation?

See, it does not match the Word in any way. If these ministers are receiving true revelation from God, why are they all believing and teaching the same lies? Why does God not give them revelation which matches His Written Word? After all, He told us not to change it, add to it, or take away from it; so it must match to be true revelation. Even Jesus had to be given a revelation of Jesus. Sound crazy?

Then go read Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Now I hear ministers quote part of this verse lots of times. But they never get to that part which said, “which God gave unto him�? Now I just wonder why they leave this out? It is taking away from the Word? Of course it is. They are deceiving the people listening to them by leaving out this part of the verse, for they themselves cannot understand or accept it.

But this is saying that God gave to Jesus a revelation of who and what Jesus is and was. Yes, even Jesus had to have a revelation of who he was! Otherwise he would not have known who he was or what he was supposed to do. But why do they leave this out? It is because they are teaching the lie that Jesus was God; knowing all things; having all power before his being set upon the throne of God after his resurrection.

I know ministers who do not spend an hour a week studying the Word which they CLAIM to be ministers of. How can this be? Why do they run to and fro instead of studying the Word? How can they minister if they do not study and receive true messages from God? They are wolves in sheep clothing; hirelings. They will tell you they are not hirelings, yet they receive pay for preaching. What do they think a hireling is? They do not even understand this simple matter. God did not send them yet they run. God’s word is not in their mouths, yet they scream and shout and wave their arms and stomp and dance around and run the aisles, and arouse emotion to show they are some kind of man of God. I say it is the work of the flesh.

You try to engage them in a discussion of the Word and they will not get involved, for they do not wish to show that they do not know and they do not wish to learn. They are not concerned with truth. Their part will be taken out of the Book of Life, for they have taken the truth out of the Book which they claim to teach. They have added the lies of the whore mama Jezebel Church which they love. They claim salvation is only inside this mama Jezebel Church. This is added lies; salvation is only in Jesus Christ and TRUTH.

So in closing I want to say to anyone who ever reads this message, be very sure that what you teach and believe is actually WRITTEN in the Word of God, just exactly the way you say it. Do not change it, for if you do, you make a lie. God gave it just the way we are to learn it and believe it. So check everything you believe or teach to see if it is truly written in the Word of God before you accept it and especially before you teach it to someone else.

God will hold you responsible for souls which you lead astray with your false doctrine. If you find that your beliefs do not match what you read in the Word, then pray and ask God to open the truth up to you. You must be willing to change your own thinking. You must be willing to let God show you HIS truth. If not, then the plagues of the Book await you and hellfire after you leave this world. Is it worth it to cling to your false Jezebel whore church and her false teachings? Think it over carefully.

By: Jo Smith ** 7/14/04

 

 
 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/24/2007 10:35 PM
(watch here how men fight women's freedom in Christ: )
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From: tom doley Sent: 7/30/2004 6:03 PM
Tell me Joie if you do not believe in adding to the scriptures then why do you do it?
You can't tell it like it suppose to be, because it condemns you.
when the bible tells you to be silent you cry out the more louder. Why is that?

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From: joie Sent: 8/1/2004 12:07 PM
Tom, neither God nor his Word has ever told me to be silent.  If He did, I would.  Only men still under law,  still refusing to brake every yoke,  still refusing the JUBILEE Jesus brought, ever say such things.
 
Jesus himself told a woman to carry the very first message of His resurrection.  He told her to go tell his MEN disciples.  When are you going to accept that?  You are misreading Paul's words as do most other people.
 
Paul only quotes what those men of law were saying----but then he rebukes them for saying a woman needed to be silent.
 
No child of God should be silent.  We all need to proclaim the truth to the world.  Phoebe was highly commended by Paul as a great minister of a church.  You cannot stop it.
 
Many women in the Word were used and spoke the Word of God, even in the OT.  Those under grace in the OT were speaking God's Word.  There was Hannah;  Huldah: Miriam, and many others. 
 
In Christ there is neither MALE  NOR  FEMALE.   You need to get into Christ.

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From: tom doley Sent: 8/1/2004 2:46 PM
Yes he has he told the woman to be silent when it comes to preaching and teaching his word
In your answer to me you just took away from the word of God.

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From: tom doley Sent: 8/1/2004 2:46 PM
Jesus never told no woman to carry any gospel message. I dare you to read it.

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From: tom doley Sent: 8/1/2004 2:50 PM
Joie all of your fourth message is nothing but a lie.
You'll have to account for every idle word on the day of judgement.
there is no fear in your heart or you would humble yourself and do what the book commands you to do


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/24/2007 10:36 PM
From: joie Sent: 8/1/2004 11:13 PM
Tom, I stand on the truth of God's Word; not your misunderstanding of it.
Satan has blinded the eyes of the world by mis-reading how Paul wrote.  He is speaking there to churches which fell away from grace, where the yokes were broken, and they went back to the bondage of law.  Those men of the Corinthian church had written Paul a letter with a bunch of questions.
 
Paul was addressing each question at a time.  He told what they asked, then gave the answer.  When he said, let your women keep silence in the churches, he was posting their question;  but then he exclaimed,  WHAT?  Came the word of God to you?  He is saying no, you do not have the Word of God, for it is only by LAW that said the women could not speak in the church.  law.  not grace.
 
By grace we are the same; there is no difference in male or female in Christ.
 
<NOBR>Mt 28:5</NOBR> And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
<NOBR>Mt 28:6</NOBR> He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
<NOBR>Mt 28:7</NOBR> And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you.
<NOBR>Mt 28:8</NOBR> And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word.
<NOBR>Mt 28:9</NOBR> And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.
<NOBR>Mt 28:10</NOBR> Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.
 
Now there is a commission from both an angel and Jesus himself to these WOMEN to go carry this first message of resurrection to MEN.
 
If you would take the time to read, you would see that both Peter and John had JUST BEEN THERE;  YET THE ANGEL AND JESUS BOTH WAITED TILL THEY LEFT AND GAVE THIS COMMISSION TO MARY.
 
Now go tell Jesus and the angel they had no right to do that!!!!!!
 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 7/24/2007 10:36 PM
From: joie Sent: 8/1/2004 11:20 PM
<NOBR>Joel 2:28</NOBR> And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

 

Now there is prophecy of how it will be in the end; in grace; in the NT == your sons and your DAUGHTERS shall prophesy.........go tell God He has no right to tell his daughters to prophesy!

<NOBR>Ac 2:16</NOBR> But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
<NOBR>Ac 2:17</NOBR> And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
<NOBR>Ac 2:18</NOBR> And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

Now there it is fulfilled:  Your daughters shall prophesy. 

I will pour out my SPIRIT on both my sons and my daughters;  and THEY [both sons and DAUGHTERS] shall prophesy.

Now go tell Philip his four daughters had no right to obey this and be lifted up to prophesy.

Go tell Phoeby she had no right to pastor a church.  Go tell Paul he had no right to highly commend her. nor Priscillar either; nor many other women who worked on equal grounds with Paul.



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