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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKate  (Original Message)Sent: 6/18/2008 1:39 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamegenie_aus1</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 2008/06/18 01:37 PM

Hello, I am a new member and wonder if anyone could help me break through a brick wall regarding my gggrandparents, Daniel McGRATH b. c1814 and wife Ellen SCANLAN b. c1823. 

According to death certificates, Daniel was born in Limerick, Ellen’s just says Ireland.  Both were Roman Catholic.  No parents mentioned.  They were probably married about 1840 in Limerick. 

I know they arrived in South Australia in 1856 on the ‘Fitzjames�?SPAN>  Also on board were their son Dennis b. c1841, daughter Margaret b. c1845, Catherine b. c1853, Peter b. 1855.  I presume all born in Limerick but I do not know which counties

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.  Thank you  Merle



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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 6/18/2008 11:27 PM
Hello Merle
 
Limerick is the name of the county you are referring to.  What you will need to find out is the name of the Parish where they married.
 
I have found these on the Irish Family History Foundation site. 
 
Action Source Surname First Name Year County
 Church Marriage McGrath Daniel 1837 Co. Limerick
 Church Marriage McGrath Daniel 1838 Co. Limerick
 Church Marriage McGrath Daniel 1840 Co. Limerick
 Church Marriage McGrath Daniel 1840 Co. Limerick
 Church Marriage McGrath Daniel 1843 Co. Limerick
 Church Marriage McGrath Daniel 1844 Co. Limerick
 
Action Source Surname First Name Year County
 Church Marriage Scanlon Ellen 1840 Co. Limerick
 Church Marriage Scanlon Ellen 1841 Co. Limerick
 Church Marriage Scanlan Ellen 1844 Co. Limerick

As you can see, there are two possible marriages of Ellen Scanlon here which match with Daniel:  1840 and 1844.  Hopefully one of them will be yours!  It is free to register as a member, but if you wish to view and print a record their fee is Eur5.00 per record. 
 
Marian
Manager

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 6/18/2008 11:30 PM
Merle - this is the IFHF website:
 
 
Marian
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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 6/18/2008 11:45 PM
Merle - this was the only Dennis and the only Peter McGrath found for the time period.  Again, it does cost Eur5.00 per record to view and print.
 
There were a lot of Margarets and Catherines, and no way of knowing which is yours.  But you will be able to search the site yourself.
 
 
Action Source Surname First Name Year County
 Church Baptism McGrath Dennis 1852 Co. Limerick

Action Source Surname First Name Year County
 Church Baptism McGrath Peter 1855 Co. Limerick
 
 
Hope this is helpful.

Marian
Manager

 

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 6/19/2008 12:06 AM
Merle - these are all the entries for Ellen Scanlan and Daniel McGrath listed between 1800 and 1830.
 
 Church Baptism Scanlon Ellen 1809 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism Scanlan Ellen 1815 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism Scanlan Ellen 1820 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism Scanlan Ellen 1821 Co. Limerick

 
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1807 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1807 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1810 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1813 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1813 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1813 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1814 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism Grath Daniel 1816 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism Grath Daniel 1817 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1817 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1818 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1820 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1823 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1824 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1825 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1825 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1826 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1828 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1828 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1828 Co. Cork
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1829 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism Grath Daniel 1830 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1830 Co. Limerick
 
 
Marian
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From: MSN Nicknamegenie_aus1Sent: 6/19/2008 4:11 AM
Marian, thank you very much for your lookups, help and advice.  I will definitely follow up your suggestions.  I now have some idea of how to go further.  Finally, there seems to be a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel.
 
best regards,
Merle

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 7/1/2008 11:26 PM
Hi Merle
 
Mike found some more info for you.
 
BIRTH AREAS FOR EACH ONE
matches for the search criteria: MCGRATH (plus variants) DANIEL Parish:
HOSPITAL
Action Source Surname First Name Year County
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1813 Co. Limerick XXX
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1813 Co. Limerick XXX
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1818 Co. Limerick XXX

 matches for the search criteria: MCGRATH (plus variants) DANIEL Parish:
KNOCKLONG
Action Source Surname First Name Year County
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1813 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1814 Co. Limerick XXXXX

 matches for the search criteria: MCGRATH (plus variants) DANIEL Parish:
MURROE & BOHER
Action Source Surname First Name Year County
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1817 Co. Limerick

 matches for the search criteria: MCGRATH (plus variants) DANIEL Parish:
ST. MICHAEL'S
Action Source Surname First Name Year County

 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1807 Co. Limerick
 Church Baptism McGrath Daniel 1807 Co. Limerick


Best one I think is Knockalong.
 
Marian


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 Message 8 of 16 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamegenie_aus1Sent: 7/2/2008 10:26 AM
Thank you Marian and Mike.  I really appreciate your ongoing support.  I have joined http://limerick.brsgenealogy.com/ and I will definitely follow up on you suggestions as soon as finances allow.  I have been looking at indexes etc. for over 15 years without finding anything definite.  Bought every relevant document I could find, but did not see anything more than I already knew.  I find it hard to fully comprehend that the walls are finally beginning to crumble.  I will definitey let you know what advice I do get.  The only small question I have is - why do you think Knocklong is the best parish for me to try.  Excuse my query.  It is just that I am not aware of where the parishes are in Limerick.  Thank you both again, Merle

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 7/2/2008 11:11 AM
Merle with ref to Knocklong,Its the nearest one to your first message.Ok i could well be wrong.As we cant be sure of exact date.
Parish records are always one or two years out depending on when born.If Dec it would probably have been the next year.
There was only the one record for 1814 ,so it narrowed it down a bit
Hope you see what i mean
 
Mike

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From: MSN Nicknamegenie_aus1Sent: 7/5/2008 7:03 AM
Dear Marian and Mike.  Just an update on my lookups of McGrath/Scanlan marriage on the Limerick Genealogy site.  I hoped if I found that it would tell give me the clues I needed for the birth look-ups.  Went back to 1831, but no luck so far.  Pity I cannot cross-reference the seach engine.  Would save a lot of time and money.  Still, at least it is better than not having anything to go on at all.  I think next time I will stick to Daniel McGrath births starting with Knocklong as you suggested.  Merle

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 7/5/2008 7:10 AM
Hi Merle,I can imagine the frustration ,You think you have correct one then comes the Big letdown.BUT there is only the one way to find out.
let us know how things Go
 
Mike

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From: MSN Nicknamegenie_aus1Sent: 7/5/2008 12:31 PM
Hi Mike.  After so many years I have learned how ro hurry - slowly.  Will persist.   Merle

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From: MSN Nicknamegenie_aus1Sent: 7/23/2008 9:03 AM
Thank you once again Marian.  You truly are wonderful people at English and Irish Family Search.  We have finally found the right family. 
I am so grateful to you.  Merle
 
I followed your lead for baptism of Peter McGrath.  It shows
 
Church Baptism Record
Date of Baptism / Birth:   29/3/1855
Parish / District:                BALLYLANDERS
County:                               Co. Limerick
Denomination:                  Roman Catholic
Father:                                Danl. McGrath
Mother:                                Ellen Scanlon
Sponsor 1 /                        David Roche
Informant 1:
Sponsor 2 /                        Cath. Martin
Informant 2:
 
 
 
 
 

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 7/23/2008 7:22 PM
Merle Im not sure If Any use to you.As i Noticed Daniel From Ballylanders
 
From the Griffiths
Mcgrath Robert Ballylanders Vil Main St Ballylanders Limerick
Mcgrath Robert Ballylanders Ballylanders Limerick
Mcgrath Thomas Ballylanders Ballylanders Limerick
Mcgrath Thomas Cullane Middle Ballylanders Limerick
Mcgrath William Ballylanders Vil Main St Ballylanders Limerick
 
1911 census of Limerick
 
McGrath Cornelius Ballylanders Village Ballylanders Ballylanders
McGrath David Cullane North Ballylanders Ballylanders
McGrath Ellen Spittle Ballylanders Ballylanders
McGrath James Curraghturk Ballylanders Ballylanders
McGrath John Ballylanders Village Ballylanders Ballylanders
McGrath Julia Ballyduff Ballylanders Ballylanders
McGrath Margaret Cullane South Ballylanders Ballylander
McGrath Michael Ballybrien Ballylanders Ballylanders
McGrath Owen Glennahaglish Ballylanders Ballylanders

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From: MSN Nicknamegenie_aus1Sent: 7/24/2008 4:42 AM
Thank you Mike,
They are not names I recognise at present, but will keep them on file in case they link up in the future.
Merle

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 7/24/2008 7:05 AM
Hi Merle
 
I am so pleased for you.  We wish you all the best, and if we can help you any more in future you know where to find us.
 
Marian

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