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No drenching baths. I don't know about the gland. My guess is that my friend did not check it, but on the other hand the bird was vet checked, especially as it was recieving treatment for the injured toe. I will have to ask her about the gland and get back to you. Thank you to all. |
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What species of African Grey does your friend have? Congo or Timneh? Robyn and Peekaboo the CAG |
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Robyn, I was startled to see your question. How smart to think of that!! I never even considered that the bird could be a Timneh. Good brain on you! Annie |
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He couldn't be a TAG since he has quote "most vibrantly red tail " I had thought TAG till I saw the red tail description.... |
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Its definitely, a Congo type bird although I have come across in the literature that some believe there are subspeciesof the Congo type. Any thoughts on that? |
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That is the subspecies is the Timneh African Grey or TAG........ and it does not have the vibrant red tail as does the CAG... instead it looks more a burgundy colour. The Congo African Grey and can be found in a couple of prominent African countries therefore the difference in the name... such as the Congo or the Cameroon to name a few. With the Timneh African Grey the beak is also a different colour, not altogether black as is the others�?is more two tone, bone and black colours. |
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Okay, you'll have to be patient because I have been doing some of my own research and what I have been enountering is that there are some people who subdivide the Congo subspieces even further. Up till recently I have always thought there two subspecies. I am only repeating what I have found. The Camarion type is allegedly larger than the Congo... Who knew? And some where else, I read that the Ghana type are similiar to Congos but less dusty and a bit darker. I wonder if my friend's bird might be descended from Ghane type birds than from Congo type birds. I think you can safely discount Timnehs. This is not that. I will try to take a picture soon of my friend's bird and post it so you can see for yourself. |
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You are doing great... I am having computer problems and am a bit short on the answers as I love to talk about the differences in Greys... My sister raised them for 40 odd years... But how about looking for some Jean Pattison sites and she'll set anyone straight about those Greys....lol But I agree with you on the difference in them... I had a pair of Cameroons who were not only twice the size of the normal Congo but they looked like silver almost so pale that it could be mistaken for white... Then I had a couple very dark and the little gal I have just now is petitte, and quite light in feather colour... OK off to see if I have more instructions on fixing this piece of junk.....lol |
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| | From: Indy75 | Sent: 3/18/2008 8:47 PM |
I don't think trying to figure out where the ancestors originate will help much. Many of the greys were smuggled from one region to another just to get them out and have gotten identified wrong. And then when mated here who knows what region the mate was from. IMO if the vet really thought the bird was lacking feather dust I would have this bird quarantined from the others and retested. I had one grey who I didn't think had alot of dust by looking at her but you could see it everywhere else. My furniture. Now this one I dust less but I can see the dust on him when he grabs a "powder feather". These are the feathers that break down and produce the dust. If he gets one of those out you can actually see all the dust in a clump broken down on that particaular feather. I never seen that on my first grey though. Or I should say I didn't notice them cause she didn't take any feathers off. Indy |
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I have a link to the Jean Pattison information with the distribution map, but I can't get it to open right now |
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Here's one of the Jean Pattison articles. |
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Wow! First, I want to thank everyone for your input. Believe it or not, I was posting from my iPhone earlier, so its was kind of rough.... I don't care how fancy the phone is, typing on it is not quite like the 'ole computer. What is "IMO"? I'm sorry, not up on all the texting abreviations... I am old school. I need my words spelled out or I have a tough time figuring out what's being said. I was thinking about ancestry to explain Rudy's characteristics in case he/she is not sick. "Rudy" is the bird's name, by the way. I really hope its not sick; it is a very sweet bird. My friend has been keeping Rudy in a separate room. I have to tell you that both she and have been members of the local bird club here in So. Cal. and it wasn't all that long ago that we went through the Newcastles outbreak. We are very familiar with precaustions regarding infectious disease. The lack of feather dust was something that I and another male friend who was with me, first noticed. And it was my male friend that first noticed the rougher feeling texture of the feathers. I must say, though, the overall condition and appearance of this bird's feathering is perfect. There weren't any malformed feathers on any part of this bird's body... just no powder and darker coloring. Right now the bird is being ruled out for other things... I am not sure what, but the vet is working on it. So I am sure this won't be the last time I will be posting here; to be sure I will keep you updated. |
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Cate, there is a page on the left sidebar that has a lot of the abbreviations used on the boards. It is called Message Board Abbreviations. IMO = in my opinion! lol Abby |
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Oh, my bad... Thanks for the heads up. |
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Tyco doesn't have alot of powder on her but let me tell you her cage is beside my TV in my bedroom and every day I have to wipe off the TV because its so covered with powder I'm thinking that the static electricity that the Tv puts out attracts and pulls the powder away from her. Pat |
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