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jackieclem</NOBR> (Original Message)

Sent: 2007/05/18 11:33 PM

How do I post a message to the message board? I know Mike tried to explain before but I still don't get it.

I am looking for the surname Clemishaw.

respectfully, [email protected]

Hi Jackie,I can now take you back one more Generation. To Williams Father and Mother.William was born 22ND APR1832,He was Christened June 3rd 1832

In Saint Marys ,Bury Lancashire England,Records show that he had two sisters

Ellen Clemishaw Born 11th nov 1830
Christened 2nd Jan 1831 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England

Alice Clemishaw Born 30th Apr 1836
Christened 22nd Mon 22ay 1836 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England

Thomas Clemishaw And wife was Mary So the Time Frame says born around 1810 to 1816.I may need to check this further.And get back to you.

Jackie,Alice Clemishaw Married John Drinkwater Bury 8c 517

25 DEC 1866 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England
Husband Age at Marriage: 22
Wife Age at Marriage: 26

Now Ellen Married one Of these Two,But i canr find out which one,You would need the cert for them

CLEMISHAW Ellen     Bury 8c 562
Mills Robert     Bury 8c 562
ANDERTON Henry    Bury 8c 562

Thomas Clemishaw Born Earlier Than i thought

Thomas Clemishaw Was born 12th sep 1798
21 OCT 1798 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England
Parents John Clemishaw and Ann
Thomas Married Mary Carter
21 FEB 1830 Saint Peter, Bolton Le Moors, Lancashire, England

John Clemishaw And Ann Births in around 1770 to1780

Thomas Clemishaw Birth 12th sept 1798 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England

Elisabeth Clemishaw Birth 30 th oct 1800 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England

Christened 14th dec 1800 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England

John Clemishaw Birth 5th may 1802 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England

Christened 04 JUL 1802 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England

Ann Clemishaw Birth 6th jan 1804 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England

Jackie this takes you back yet another generation,I hope this not to much to take in in one go

There was a Marriage around 1850

Of An Elizabeth Clemishaw,But the way Bmd have it its hard to sort it out

Marriages Sep 1850 (>99%)

CLEMISHAW Elizabeth Bury 21 267
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Now i also found a Death of a John Clemishaw

I cant be sure of Which of the two it is Father or son

Deaths Dec 1839 (>99%)

CLEMISHAW John Bury 21 207
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Just one at present i had not added

John Drinkwater
Born 4th Nov 1844
Christened 15th Dec 1844 St Michaels, Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England
parents Joseph Drinkwater and Martha

Hi Jackie,I am not sure yet How this would fit in on your tree but i came across this message

Eliza Rikus married James Hardman Clemishaw, b: Mar 1878 in Bury, d: Oct 23, 1944 in Elton, Lanc (nr Bury). If you want more you can email
A Mr Cleminshaw married my ancestor, Eliza Rickus in Bury, Lancs in 1918. I am seeking information on that branch as my family came to Australia and inevitably lost contact with family at home. Eliza was the daughter of Kate Rickus, and was born in London in 1895. Any help greatly appreciated.
Cheers

Now the person who posted is a girl called Kim living in Australia

This was a message to a Connie,Who has this Family Member

A New one found This would be the First John Who married Ann

John Clemishaw Born Around 1765 to 1770

Marriage: 27 JUL 1789 Saint Mary, Bury, Lancashire, England

Hi Jackie,

Since I didn't know the married names of Ernest's sisters, Sarah Ann and Florence, I looked for their brother Walter in the 1920 Census.

I was surprised to find his mother Martha Jane was still alive and living with Walter and a GRANDSON ..John E. Gardner.

1920 United States Federal Census 1920 United States Federal Census

Name:Walter Clementson

[Walter Clemeshaw]

Home in 1920:Acushnet, Bristol, Massachusetts

Age:22 years

Estimated birth year:abt 1898

Birthplace:England

Relation to Head of House:Son

Father's Birth Place:England

Mother's name:Mischa reads Martha

Mother's Birth Place:England

Marital Status:Single

Race:White

Sex:Male

Year of Immigration:1910

Able to read:Yes

Able to Write:Yes

Image:616

Household Members:NameAge

Mischa Clementson 59 reads Martha

Walter Clementson 22 son

John E Garden (Gardner?)12 grandson..born Massachusetts

The search for the grandson John Gardner in the 1910 census was difficult because the only family found had the wife of David A Gardner listed as Elizabeth. She was born in 1879 England and arrived in 1884.

Was there another child born to Martha and Walter E. ?

The name was so badly transcribed in the index. In the original census image the name is faded but Gardner can be made out.

1910 United States Federal Census 1910 United States Federal Census

Name:John Yaidener

[John Gardener]

Age in 1910:2 2/12

Estimated birth year:abt 1908

Birthplace:Massachusetts

Relation to Head of House:Son

Father's name:David A

Father's Birth Place:England

Mother's name:Elizabeth

Mother's Birth Place:England

Home in 1910:New Bedford Ward 2, Bristol, Massachusetts

Marital Status:Single

Race:White

Gender:Male

Household Members:NameAge

David A Yaidener 36

Elizabeth Yaidener 29

James Yaidener 12

Lilian Yaidener 5

John Yaidener 2 2/12

Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: New Bedford Ward 2, Bristol,

Massachusetts; Roll: T624_578; Page: 23B; Enumeration District: 187; Image:

676.

This couple is also listed in the 1900 census.

The mystery was solved when I found David Armstrong Gardner in the World War 1 Draft Registration and he names his wife as Sarah Ann Gardner.

Elizabeth [...?...]was his first wife and the mother of John found in the 1920 census .

Father born Scotland mother born England

David A Gardner says at times he was born in Scotland and other times England.

The family of Sarah Ann Clemishaw and David A Gardner were found in the 1920 census.

1920 United States Federal Census 1920 United States Federal Census

Name:Sarah A Gardner

Home in 1920:Middleborough, Plymouth, Massachusetts

Age:34 years

Estimated birth year:abt 1886

Birthplace:England

Relation to Head of House:Wife

Spouse's name:David A

Father's Birth Place:England

Mother's Birth Place:England

Marital Status:Married

Race:White

Sex:Female

Year of Immigration:1909

Able to read:Yes

Able to Write:Yes

Image:179

Neighbors:View others on page

Household Members:NameAge

David A Gardner 44

Sarah A Gardner 34

Clara E Gardner 3 6/12

Stanley A Gardner 1 7/12

Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Middleborough, Plymouth,

Massachusetts; Roll: T625_727; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 125; Image:

179.

Judy.. This is the Clara that you remembered from the visits with your father to his Aunt Sarah Ann that preferred to be called Annie.

Clara was his cousin.

By 1930 they were living in Providence Rhode Island.

1930 United States Federal Census 1930 United States Federal Census

Name:Sarah A Gardner

Home in 1930:Providence, Providence, Rhode Island

Age:44

Estimated birth year:abt 1886

Relation to Head of House:Wife

Spouse's name:David A

Age at first marriage:.. 30 yrs.. that would be abt. 1916

Household Members:NameAge

David A Gardner 54

Sarah A Gardner 44

Clara E Gardner 13

Stanley G Gardner 11

Esther N Thomas 11... listed as Ward.. everyone born RI

Robert B Thomas 9....Listed as Ward... everyone b. RI

Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Providence, Providence, Rhode

Island; Roll: 2179; Page: 19B; Enumeration District: 66; Image: 422.0.

Martha Jane Clemishaw hasn't been found in the 1930 census, but can't say that she has died between 1920-1930 without proof.

The following is the family of Walter Clemishaw, brother to Ernest, Sarah Ann, Florence and Clara

1930 United States Federal Census 1930 United States Federal Census

Name:Walter Clemisham

Home in 1930:Wareham, Plymouth, Massachusetts

Age:31

Estimated birth year:abt 1899

Birthplace:England

Relation to Head of House:Head

Spouse's name:Viola E

Race:White

Household Members:NameAge

Walter Clemisham 31

Viola E Clemisham 29

Wallace Clemisham 7

Alice M Clemisham 2 3/12

Esther I Clemisham 1

Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Wareham, Plymouth, Massachusetts;

Roll: 941; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 100; Image: 232.0.

I have all the copies of census and WW1 draft registration and will forward them to you at your personal e-mail addy..

Hope this brings back memories of your family.

jelora

Viola A. Clemishaw, 95

WAREHAM -- Viola Alzeda (Maxim) Clemishaw, 95, died Wednesday, March 4, 1998, at Forestview Nursing Home after a long illness. She was the widow of Walter E. Clemishaw and daughter of the late Charles and Lizzie (Wallen) Maxim.
Mrs. Clemishaw was born in Middleboro and lived in Wareham before moving to Rochester more than 64 years ago. She was a homemaker who enjoyed crocheting and tending to plants and flowers.
Survivors include three sons, Wallace E. Clemishaw and Charles W. Clemishaw, both of Wareham, and Walter E. Clemishaw Jr. of Leek City, Texas; four daughters, Esther Peltola of Middleboro, Alice Meier of Monument Beach, Phyllis LeConte of S. Berwick, Maine, and Florence MacPherson of Spokane, Wash.; a brother, Hosea Maxim of S. Middleboro; 22 grandchildren; and 13 great-great grandchildren.
A funeral service will be at 2 p.m. Monday at Stott, Chapman, Cole & Gleason Funeral Home, 2599 Cranberry Highway, Wareham, which is handling the arrangements.

Jackie I found This Obituary,But you may already Have it

I noticed that the last family group didn't seem to fit into the puzzle correctly. I also noticed that the letter "W" was misplaced by an "M". Could that have made a difference? Just curious!

Also, how would I fix that? The spelling in all other E's have been correct until now! I think anyway!

I am so thrilled about this family histroy. Thank you So! I can tell though, you are enjoying what you are doing! Good for You!

Respectfully, Jackie NOT JUDY

Household Members:NameAge

Walter Clemisham 31

Viola E Clemisham 29

Wallace Clemisham 7

Alice M Clemisham 2 3/12

Esther I Clemisham

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jackieclem</NOBR> (Original Message)

Sent: 2007/05/24 06:10 AM

Down To The Basics
On the screen I have a small heart "recomend"
What is that for?

Hi Jackie... Not Judy

Sorry about that ,those wee hours of the morning play tricks on me.

I didn't realize the error of my ways until I read the response, that I had posted to the message board.

As far as the last letter of the name being transcribed as "M" and not "W" it is just how the indexer read the copy of the census.

If you go to the above obit that Mike found, (by the way he is the best at sleuthing out information.) you will see that all the names match this family of Walter Clemishaw.

Children _Walter_ Alice_ Esther.

I have saved images of the census years, let me know if you wish me to export them to your personal e-mail.

I can't post all of them to the Board for lack of storage space available to the Group.

Follow through on your recent post:

Down To The Basics

On the screen I have a small heart "recomend"

What is that for

I have never used this option. I hit the heart on your first message to the Group and it says 1 recommendation so far

Let's see where that ends up on the group boards

Take care,

jelora

Jelora, Just wanted you to know I got and read todays email from you. I have Dr.s appt.'s but i will write you asap. thank you

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