MSN Home  |  My MSN  |  Hotmail
Sign in to Windows Live ID Web Search:   
go to MSNGroups 
Free Forum Hosting
 
Important Announcement Important Announcement
The MSN Groups service will close in February 2009. You can move your group to Multiply, MSN’s partner for online groups. Learn More
English and Irish Family Search[email protected] 
  
What's New
  
  Welcome  
  Home Page  
  Your Managers  
  Your CHAT SITE  
  World Times  
  Who is helping YOU  
  Success Stories  
  Success Stories - 2  
  Your Photos  
  Pictures  
  Your Settings  
  Specialised Family Interests  
  One Name Studies  
  Message Boards  
  Surname A  
  Surname B  
  Surname C  
  Surname D  
  Surname E  
  Surname F  
  Surname G  
  Surname H  
  Surname I  
  Surname J  
  Surname K  
  Surname L  
  Surname Mc  
  Surname M  
  Surname N  
  Surname O  
  Surname P  
  Surname Q  
  Surname R  
  Surname S  
  Surnames T and U  
  Surname V  
  Surnames W to Z  
  BMD Certificates  
  Questions  
  Site Suggestions  
  Kay's Page  
  Marian's Page  
  Mike's Page  
  Best English and Irish Links  
  List of Links  
  More Links  
  Parish Clerks  
  Limerick City Council Site  
  Irish Baptisms  
  Irish Marriages  
  Irish Marriages 2  
  Irish Deaths  
  Irish Deaths 2  
  Irish Chicago Deaths  
  Irish Vital Records  
  G.R.O. Ireland  
  Immigrant Ships  
  Irish Poetry  
  Irish Newspapers  
  Irish Music Box  
  Ireland Old News  
  British Library Archives  
  London Gazette  
  Rue du Bois  
  Kevin Collins  
    
    
  Managers' Sheet  
  Some Grand Old Irish Recipes  
  
  
  Tools  
 
Surname S : SHANAHAN Denis Stack
Choose another message board
 
     
Reply
 Message 1 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKate  (Original Message)Sent: 5/19/2008 10:28 AM
 
My great grandfather, Denis Stack Shanahan, came to Chicago, IL about 1882. His only son, Edwin, my grandfather, was murdered when my father was only 10 months old. Denis Shanahan died when my father was 5. I am having no luck on genealogy sites. There are lots of Shanahan's but noone claims my family. I know Denis was from Kerry, had a brother Edward, who also emigrated to Chicago, and an Uncle Daniel who taught him the stained glass business. Any help
Thankyou
meganmorehead


First  Previous  2-14 of 14  Next  Last 
Reply
 Message 2 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknamejeloraSent: 5/19/2008 2:18 PM
Hi..
 
Shanahan is a name familiar to me ,but, mainly in the New York City area and from County Limerick.  My interest is peaked and  I'm  pleased to look for your family in the Chicago area.
As I  find information I'll either post to the message board or if the articles are too large to post I'll send them to you mailbox.
Whenever there has been an accident  or crime committed there is  a news story, the only problem is finding the newspaper that would carry the article.
Could you give me the year that the Crime occurred?
 
 Take Care,
Jelora

Reply
 Message 3 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknamejeloraSent: 5/19/2008 2:55 PM
Hi.
I did a quick survey of news articles at genealogybank .com and only three showed. They all concerned the conviction of DURKIN. No description of the crime against federal agent Edwin Shanahan.
All of these articles were found in the Dallas Morning News.
 
 I found mention of a Dennis Shanahan in connection  with the populist party , active in the  latter part of the  1800's, was the family involved in politics?
 
jelora

Reply
 Message 4 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknamejeloraSent: 5/19/2008 7:06 PM
Hi.. This is my third try  at posting a message.. It seems that I've used too much of my space!
Ancestry.com has numerous articles about your grandfather Edwin C Shanahan, first  Federal agent to be killed in the line of duty.. 11 October 1925.
With that in mind ,if you haven't requested his file from the FBI_ that would be the next important  step in your research.
 
If you don't see a topic that fits your needs , e-mail  or give a telephone call to  the Department. The file should be quite large and very interesting.
 
Ancestry.com allows a trail subscription.  They have many articles about the death  of Edwin and trail of the killer Durkin.
 
 Very Interesting  research, let me know if I can be of further help.
Jelora
 

Reply
 Message 5 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknamemeganmoreheadSent: 5/20/2008 6:20 PM
Thanks for the info.  I have lots of information regarding the trial.  What I don't have is any link back to Ireland.  I believe Denis Stack Shanahan was born in Kerry in 1866.  I had always heard that he was one of 26 children, 13 children each by two wives. 
 
In 8 years, the only one who thought that might be accurate was Fred Shannon, who is now deceased. 
 
Another researcher, related to an Edward Shanahan, who also relocated to Chicago, thinks his Edward is my Denis' brother, since his relative Edward worked at The Munich Studios, Denis's stained glass company in Chicago.
 
My direct Shanahan line in the US consisted of Denis, his wife Mary Curran, and their 2 children, Edwin and Adeline.  Adeline married Warren O'Donnell, Edwin killed 1925, Mary deceased 1916 and Denis deceased 1930.  So you see I have noone to go to for additional family history.

Reply
 Message 6 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknamemeganmoreheadSent: 5/20/2008 6:31 PM
Sorry, I answered one email and not the others.  Edwin was killed by trying to capture a car thief on Oct 12, 1925.  The ensuing trial was quite a circus as the car thief's nickname was "The Shiek" due to the numerous women involved with him.  Most accounts in papers throughout the country inaccurately list my grandfather as "Edward" where the correct name is "Edwin".  At least the FBI got it correct in their accounts. 
 
As far as Ireland family history, I had heard that 1 relative fled to Australia to avoid arrest.
 
To localize the family in Ireland, it was Abbeydorney.
 
Thank you already for your immediate response.  For 8 years it seems other Shanahan searchers have decided we are not related and don't respond, so just the fact that you did raises my hopes considerably!

Reply
 Message 7 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 5/20/2008 6:42 PM
Hi in Genealogy.com there are two messages of interest one is from a James Garvey no email Address This fits with your Family
 
Mike
 
Edward Shanahan was the son of Thomas Shanahan and Margaret Stack. He was born near the Village of Abbeydorney in North Kerry in 1866 and came to America in the early 1880's. Eventually he moved to Chicago where he met and married my grand aunt, Alice Callahan [originally Cahalan]. Aunt Alice was the daughter of Michael Cahalan and Bridget Dwyer. The Cahalans were natives of Loughrea in County Galway. Michael Cahalan/Callahan first lived in New York City and served in the Union Army in the Civil War. He moved to Chicago before 1870 and settled near 12th Street and Halsted - site of that famous burning barn. Alice was born in that city, the younger sister of my grandmother, Winifred Anna Callahan Mahoney. "Big Ed" was a Chicago policeman and so was Alice - the first matron on the CPF. There children were Mary, Martin and Marcella Rose. Marty was a veteran of World War I and one of the finest men I have ever known. He married a teacher named Elsie Mickelson and fathered a daughter named Margaret who married James Kirby at St. Rita Church on 63rd Street. Mary was married to fireman named Henry Felthouse, another outstanding man. If Courtney Jordan sees this reply, please e-mail me at the attached address.
 
Now also this second message you may be interested in
 
Mike

Posted by: Mimi Flower (ID *****3609) Date: March 02, 2008 at 09:39:47
In Reply to: Re: FBI History, Edwin C. Shanahan by Hugh A. Shanahan  of 802 

I'm looking for anyone who knows the family history of Edward C. Shanahan, the FBI agent killed in the line of duty in 1925.
My #1 question is this, did Edward Shanahan have any children and if so, were any of them twins?
I'm looking for an FBI agent killed in the line of duty in the 1920's who had twins (a boy and a girl) and am having no luck in the area at all.
Any help is apriciated!
Thank you!
 
 

Reply
 Message 8 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 5/20/2008 7:08 PM
Two children Are listed in the Igi References
Elizabeth Shanahan Birth:  29 JUN 1868  , Ardfert, Kerry, Ireland
 
Edmond Shanahan 09 JUL 1865 , Ardfert, Kerry, Ireland
 
Father:  THOMAS SHANAHAN  Family
  Mother:  MARGRETT STACK    

Reply
 Message 9 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 5/20/2008 7:21 PM
I have managed to retrieve james Emil Address And also another Researcher with the Same Family
 
Mike
 
Relative Sue Shanahan Webb [email protected]
She is Related to the Garvey side And Mahoney
[email protected]
 
Hello,
I'm trying to find out more about my Shanahan ancestors. All I know is that my gg grandfather, Edward Shanahan, born around 1866 in Ireland (county unknown), migrated to Chicago, Cook County, IL, and settled on the South Side. He married Alice Callahan. They were both police officers in Chicago, from what I understand. Their son, Martin Shanahan (13 Aug 1898-1965/66), married Elsie G. Mikelson, and that couple then had a daughter (my grandmother), Margaret Shanahan (1925-1975). Unfortunately, she died before I was born, so I could never ask her any of these questions! Margaret married a James Kirby (dec'd), who had two daughters, Elizabeth (my mom, born in 1956) and Peggy (dec'd). Anyone have any more information on who came before? I'd love to know what county Edward Shanahan was from in Ireland and who his parents were and if he had any brothers and sisters.
Much thanks,

Reply
 Message 10 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknamemeganmoreheadSent: 5/20/2008 10:33 PM
You are incredibly fast! 
 
James is the researcher I mentioned with the relative Edward in Chicago.  I have had correspondence with him, and he came up with 10 children born to Thomas & Margaret Stack.  He has no mention of a Denis and thought maybe it was an Edmund, but census reports state Denis was born in February and Edmund was born in July.  An entry in "The Book of Chicagoans" notes Dennis bor 3-Feb-1867 son of Thomas William and Margaret Stack Shanahan.  It's like Dennis popped out of thin air.
 
Am hoping to receive info on James' family tree.  Gave him a little nudge on April 18th and he replied that he will get back to me when his life is a little less hectic.
In the meantime, I am impatient and trying other avenues.
 
The other email I will address.  The only other agent killed in the 1920's was in 1929 and not a Shanahan.  I will pass on what I know to the writer.
 
Thanks again for chasing my elusive relatives
 
 

Reply
 Message 11 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 5/20/2008 11:07 PM
Megan When you Speak to him Will you please let him Know i Added his message
As i Feel it Nice to let the Person Know.I have let Jelora know I added that info.
She Is always in close Contact.So if you need further help Please let her know
 
Thanks
 
Mike

Reply
 Message 12 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 5/21/2008 7:04 PM
Megan If you Please check this site Over the next  two days i have some really interesting Info But it will need sorting out.I have sent to Jelora.As she is the Expert on trees.
I will add a couple of Bits from it ,Hopefully you will see what i mean.
I will tell you now It contains THOMAS,s Father and Mother ,And A section on JFK
So please bear with me and jel
 
Mike
 

Thomas SHANAHAN(b. 1739, d. ?)
Note: Lived in Aulene, Dorney Abbey, Kerry Co., Ireland. Was a tenant farmer on what had previously been his land. Was evicted by the British for Anti-British activities.
Given Name: Thomas
Reference: Jack14411
Change: Date: 30 Apr 2004

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Margaret STACK(b. Abt 1740, d. ?)
Given Name: Margaret
Reference: Jack14419
Change: Date: 30 Apr 2004
 
Daniel SHANAHAN 
b. Abt 1680 Ireland
Gender: Male
Family:
Marriage: 1699 Ireland
Children:
John SHANAHAN 
Thomas SHANAHAN
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel SHANAHAN(b. Abt 1680, d. ?)
Note: Daughters married Kennedy men. Ancestors of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy
Given Name: Daniel
Reference: Jack14652
Change: Date: 27 May 2000
Time: 20:24
Back to Main Page
John SHANAHAN 
b. 1720 <Irabeg, Lixnau, Kerry, Ireland>
Gender: Male
Parents:
Father: Daniel SHANAHAN

Reply
 Message 13 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 5/21/2008 9:38 PM
Megan Myself and Jelora decided its easier for you to look at the tree yourself
As it would take to long to Decipher,I will add some bits And let you decide for yourself.
 
Mike And Jelora
 
Thomas Shanahan  Was born in 1739,He married Margaret Stack Born about 1740
Thomas had a son William Shanahan Born About 1770 Who Married Miss  Obrien,Unfortunately No name Given
There Son was Thomas Shanahan Born 1825 And Died 1905 It has Thomas,s Wife as Thomas Shanahan So on this I think they Could not find Her Name
Children From this Marriage were Dennis Shanahan Born abt 1845 Farran Abbey, Dorney, Kerry, Ireland
Thomas Shanahan Born abt 1847 Farran Abbey, Dorney, Kerry, Ireland
Edward Shanahan Born abt 1849 Farran Abbey, Dorney, Kerry, Ireland
John Patrick Shanahan
John Shanahan 1795
John Patrick SHANAHAN 
b. 1791 Farran Abbey, Dorney, Kerry, Ireland
d. 1860 Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
Parents:Father: William SHANAHAN
Mother: Miss O'BRIEN
Children:
Daniel SHANAHAN 
John SHANAHAN 
b. 1813
d. 10 Sep 1826 Ennismore, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
Paul SHANAHAN 
John Patrick SHANAHAN 
Honorah SHANAHAN 
b. 1823 <Ennismore, Ontario, Canada>
Gender: Female
Catherine SHANAHAN 
Mary STACK 
b. 1799
Gender: Female
Family:
Marriage: 1839 <Farran Abbey, Dorney, Kerry, Ireland>
Spouse: John SHANAHAN 
b. Abt 1795 <Farran Abbey, Dorney, Kerry, Ireland>
Gender: Male
Parents:
Father: William SHANAHAN
Mother: Miss O'BRIEN
Children:
Edmond SHANAHAN 
b. 1833
Gender: Male
Daniel SHANAHAN 
b. 1835
Gender: Male
Thomas SHANAHAN 
b. 1839
Gender: Male
Mary SHANAHAN 
b. 1840
Gender: Female
 
Dennis Shannahan Born 1792 Son of William And Miss Obrien
Honora McCARTHY 
b. Abt 1795
Gender: Female
Family:
Marriage: <1811> <Farran Abbey, Dorney, Kerry, Ireland>
Spouse: Dennis SHANAHAN 
b. 1792 <Farran Abbey, Dorney, Kerry, Ireland>
Gender: Male
Parents:
Father: William SHANAHAN
Mother: Miss O'BRIEN
Children:
William SHANAHAN 
Daniel SHANAHAN 
b. 1813
Gender: Male
Florence SHANAHAN 
b. 1818
Gender: Female
Jr. Shanahan DENNIS 
b. 1829
Gender: Male
Mary SHANAHAN 
b. 1833
Gender: Male
John SHANAHAN 
b. Abt 1834
Gender: Male
Honora SHANAHAN 
b. 1836
Gender: Female
Ulysses SHANAHAN 
b. 1838
Gender: Male
Thomas Shanahan born 1825
Thomas SHANAHAN 
b. Abt 1825 <Farran Abbey, Dorney, Kerry, Ireland>
Gender: Female
Family:
Marriage: <1844> <Farran Abbey, Dorney, Kerry, Ireland>
Spouse: Thomas SHANAHAN 
b. 1825 Farran Abbey, Dorney, Kerry, Ireland
d. 1905
Gender: Male
Parents:
Father: William SHANAHAN
Mother: Miss O'BRIEN
Children:
Dennis SHANAHAN 
b. Abt 1845 <Farran Abbey, Dorney, Kerry, Ireland>
Gender: Male
Thomas SHANAHAN 
b. Abt 1847 <Farran Abbey, Dorney, Kerry, Ireland>
Gender: Male
Edward SHANAHAN 
b. Abt 1849 <Farran Abbey, Dorney, Kerry, Ireland>
Gender: Male
 
 
 

Thomas Born 1738 Irabeg, Lixnau, Kerry, Ireland Married Margaret Stack Born about 1740 Irabeg, Lixnau, Kerry, Ireland
Thomas,s Father was Daniel Shanahan He was Born 1699 Ireland
There were two sons listed John Shanahan and Thomas Shanahan
John Shanahan was was Born 1720 Irabeg, Lixnau, Kerry, Ireland
One Child Listed Julia Shanahan Born 1748 She was Known as St Julia
 
 

Reply
 Message 14 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 5/23/2008 7:49 PM
Mike,

Once again, you're great!  I once had received some info like this from Fred
Shannon, who, I believe, worked predominantly on the Peter Enisborough?
expedition
to Canada which included many Shanahans.  He sent me a partial tree which
I found
very hard to read and I was never able ascertain where the rest of the
tree or where
the sources for the info were.  After he died, I posted to other
Shanahan's but
noone seemed to have a copy of the tree.   I'm hoping you may have
discovered it.
Unfortunately, your email did not give me the site of the tree.   Again,
thank you,
you're wonderful.  I know my repeated requests seem impatient, but its
maddening and
a little saddening to have these close relatives that I can't put a family
to.

Message 2

Okay, Okay, I may or may not be a doofus.

 If you received a long email a short while ago, I mistakenly said I
needed the
address of the web page you spoke of.

If you received that email, all the glowing compliments are correct and the
statement of the missing website is not.  My apologies.

If however, I didn't actually send the email, just accept my thanks AND
glowing
compliments for the information.

The web page "Charlotte's Web" was familiar in that it had much of the
information
that the tree of Fred Shannon had.  Now if I could only definitely place
Denis on a
branch, I would be delighted.


Thank you all

Megan


First  Previous  2-14 of 14  Next  Last 
Return to Surname S