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Dyke Debate : being "outed" or "outing" or whatever?
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From: Ms Kelly  (Original Message)Sent: 12/13/2003 2:20 PM
dont know where to place this so im putting it in here ..anyway
 
being "outed" or "outing" a person..
 
why do people want to do this to orthers?  because some do.. i mean i gather there are some very upfront and quite political (is this the correct word to use?) g/l around and i just wondered why some wish to out those who arent ready and are still coming to terms with themselves?
 
do they feel that they are helping a person by "outing" them...(giving them a gentle nudge) so to speak..or maybe not a gentle nudge? 
 
 
do some g/l feel that by a person being private about their sexuality means they are ashamed of it or not giving it the respect or because of circumstances are therefore not respecting all g/l? and so those annoyed g/l , because of this, want to "out" them?
 
 
i have read stories over the years about things like this and mostly high profile media people and thought it was quite a "militant" thing to do to a person..and not perhaps the correct path to take..its a very ,i think, complex issue...well...if you choose to make it one that is!
 
had abit of a dingdong about this yesterday and just thought id mention to see what orthers like yourselves thought in here...
 
"outing" can be quite a political subject ..dont you think? 
 
 
thankyou.
 
 
 
 
 
 


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From: MSN Nickname«ƒëMmè_67»Sent: 1/2/2004 7:25 PM
HI LADIES...I WAS NOT REALLY "OUTED" IN A BAD WAY...IT WAS A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF MINE THAT SAID TO ME..."COME ON...FACE IT...YOU'RE A LESBIAN"...AND IT WAS THE BEST THING THAT SHE COULD HAVE DONE FOR ME...ALTHO MOST OF MY FRIENDS KNEW AND KNOW...I TOO HID IF FROM MY FAMILY FOR A LONG TIME...FOR MY OWN REASONS...BUT AM TRULY HAPPY WITH THE PERSON I AM NOW...THANKS FOR THE THREAD MSKELLY...XXX...FEMME...XXX

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From: MSN NicknameBumpyLobster0Sent: 1/4/2004 9:31 PM
Hi Mskelly
U have a very good question to be answered,as I 2 wonder why people do what they do.  I believe it helps them to not stand alone, no matter it can hrt you, and the other is a case of not knowing how to mind your own business.  they are no different than the nasty gossipers out there. just my opinion.
 
LINDA

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From: Ms KellySent: 1/6/2004 12:29 AM
thankyou Femme and bumpylobster for the replies here,interestings and pleased you wish to share them to me.
 
infact im going to say thanks to everyone woman in this comm whoever bothered to read anything i ever posted in here,and replied too..
 
i dont do the chatroom thing ,but i post on this board and by the way alot of real effort goes into this site so i think posting shows..well..a kind of real gratitude, i think we take the english language for granted..i might not wander in the chatroom but i can really laugh ,i can talk ,i also breath too(pant) and work and go out and live like everyone else..(honest i do!!)
 
im not trying to hide from anyone here,it just the way i am and i thank anyone here for just accepting the person that i am,if i was a member of any orther comm i would be the same,any comm being movies ,hobbies ,etc...
 
i am sorry if i didnt reply to your threads when it seemed the whole world did.
 
im hopeing that you all have a 2004 that will mean progress for you.
 
i make no newyears resoulutions because i do not believe in them..but if you have...well....i hope you stick to them!!
 
im going to be having online troubles(i think) over the coming days as i may be changing ISP providers..looking into it anyhow...
 
hope its not too difficult me!!
 
anyway that was all deep must be having an MK moment...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameBumpyLobster0Sent: 1/6/2004 12:45 AM
Hi Ms Kelly
 
U should never have to defend yourself to anybody for the way you are by choice.  We all here in North america pay a very heavy penalty to live a toally
free lifestyle.  Freedom of expression and beliefs are part of who we are in the Free world.  If u choose to chat u chat if not , then that is a choice for u and nobody else to make.take care, and be happy.  Life is to short to be upset at petty nonsense.
 
LINDA

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From: Ms KellySent: 1/6/2004 9:55 PM
thankyou for those words bumpylobster,appreciate it..
 
not upset at all,but one can understand how easy it is to make this assumption about somebodys words online
 
when im upset and really upset..i think it we be shown!
 
thankyou.
 
 
 
 

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From: jellytots123Sent: 1/7/2004 1:44 PM




Well being outed wud be bloody easier than having to go and tell everyone but it depends who is doing the "outing"

x Ana x 


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From: MSN Nicknamefree_feminine_spiritSent: 6/30/2004 5:52 AM
I have been outed from things by people judging me all my life, from being shy, so I'm a snob, being a witch, too weird for people. Being married to a man that I couldn't stand him touch me, making me puke at the thought of it, far to much for people to understand, now I have really psyched them out by changing my name by deed poll, great stuff. And you're all correct, saying you find out who you're real friends are. Including family. I now know who my friends are, and being true to myself is what matters. I might just change my mind in telling some girlfriends to just to stir the cauldren. I have a 70 year old woman hetro friend and she accepts me for me at her age. I don't give a damn what people think of me anymore, I know who I am and that is what matters.
Anastasia

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From: MSN Nicknamejandancer33Sent: 6/30/2004 12:40 PM
welcome to the group anastasia
seen your name on a few replies today, thanx for all the great messages!
hope your enjoying the group
hugs janx

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From: MSN NicknamebburnzjointSent: 9/1/2004 6:28 AM
Upon finding out that I am an actor, a fried of my mother's said "So I hear your daughter is a Thespian?"
My mother became very upset and told the person that they shouldn't go around spreading nasty rumors like that.
I would hate to think what she would do if someone asked her if I were a lesbian.
 
Yes, this is a true story.

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From: MSN NicknameDebbi36Sent: 1/29/2005 4:04 PM
Hello, this is my first ever reply on here!!! but i do read with interested. i was given a very good bit of advise just after i was "outed" and if your havng a hard time with it all just keep saying this..............
"Those that matter DONT mind, but those who Mind, DONT MATTER!!!!! .
take care all
love Deb XX

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From: MSN NicknameSweetJazzy24Sent: 5/25/2005 3:49 PM
I wasn't outted by anyone nor did I really out myself at first. Since I played basketball and all female basketball players are thought to be lesbians, it was assumed by others that I was....and I was. When I was asked about it by family, friends or whoever I was honest and said that I am a lesbian although I think stereotyping a person is really wrong. I'm very proud to be gay and am really comfortable with who I am and I don't care who knows it...no matter what I'm me and am honest
Hugs
Jazzy

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From: MSN NicknameBrandedSnB1Sent: 5/26/2005 1:16 AM
I'm me and am honest Hugs Jazzy
Good for you, im also a proud Lesbian, and I dont hide it... If they ask, I tell... Otherwise they just see my lover and assume I am hehehehe
 
S&B
"The older we get, the less concerned we are about appearance.."

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From: MSN NicknameSúzyqSent: 6/10/2005 5:35 AM
I knew since I was 28 and married that I liked women I didnt do anything about it till I was 46 At the time I was living in new york city. I headed over to the gay center which is the best I have seen. I can't imagine hiding it in the times we live in. Years ago when my aunt died I discovered from some pictures taken in the 1930's that she was a lesbian. My aunt and 3 butches In those days places like gay centers and coming out was unheard of. She was a teacher and would have lost everything. I have met several stonewall vets and know their stories. I heard firsthand what it was like back in 1969. I was friends with the person who started stonewall, until her death. From this I was able to appreciate the support the glbt community has available to us now. I also joined a glbt church which is the largest of its kind (MCC). I do not think it is anyone's place to out someone. They may mean well but its really none of their business. I think its entirely up to the person when they are ready. Today there are resources available to them when they are ready. Someone outing another will just push them further back in the closet
 
  
 

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From: MSN NicknameMsLushus1Sent: 6/11/2005 2:45 AM
I LOVE THE TV ADVERT IN THE UK AT THE MOMENT,
FOR SOME MOBILE PHONE NETWORK OR OTHER ,
WHERE THE BOY SAYS,"DAD,I'M GAY",AND HIS DAD REPLIES,"EXCELLENT!"...
OH...IF ONLY IF IT WAS THAT EASY....  


Flowers



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From: MSN NicknameBrandedSnB1Sent: 6/12/2005 3:16 AM
No chit... hehehe... My parents are kewl with it now, but when I was younger OYYYY...
 
SnB
"The older we get, the less concerned
we are about appearance.."


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