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Dyke Debate : gave you abit of hope...
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From: Ms Kelly  (Original Message)Sent: 5/17/2005 12:35 AM
I bought a book very recently and really cheap ,its called "La la la"".It's by Kylie and William Baker ,who is her stylist,this book is only about 3 or 4 years old. It's wrote in her words and his and is all about Kylie and her outfits and image,inspirations and stage designs etc and about themselves.
 
William Baker is so creative and writes with such detail. There is abit in this book which I read and re read, it not anything of great interest but it made me think of my past.
In the book, William Baker mentions about Boy George...."
"exemplified the positive influential power that a pop star could have on an audience and he saved me a great deal of anguish in my youth,thanks to him I never questioned the right or wrong of fancying other young men at school"...(( especially with regards to Georges thoughts and what he says..not his image))
 
It just made me stop. I remember buying the smash hits and number 1 music magazine in my early teens and even more so if George was in it. In one interview he did in one of them, he mentioned something like this...
"Love is never wrong, there is nothing wrong with appreciating your own sex" he went on something to words like these...
Reading what William Baker wrote made me think of how something when you are so young can make such an impact when you feel alone with your feelings.
I was in my very early teens and trying to understand the feelings I was having with regards to my own sex, I had no one to talk to. Boy George saying those few innocent words made what I felt was natural and that gave me just a tiny ,tiny hope to cling to.  There was no L word, no internet, no characters in soaps and any other drama with lesbians in that I can think of.  I remember the only thing around was "oranges are not the only fruit" abit later on ,which really meant so much to me. Lesbian storys/comments were seldom ever from what I can remember back in my early teens ever mentioned. There was nothing to connect to that I can recall.  I mean I'm not old! but I remember one thing though, in my late teens, staring at the lesbian switchboard number in personals of my local papers and wishing I could phone them,but I never had the confidence, but I knew that there was someone out there, someone... who might know where I was coming from...but anyway, I think I can understand what William Baker thought ,even though he is a gay man. 
 
What I want to ask is, have any of you please had anything similar ,where by a popstar , a movie, a quote, anything at all ,that made you feel you were not alone about your sexuality and before you ever revealed outside of yourself?? and especially in a time when it was seldom mentioned much, do you know what I mean?? thanks.
 
I live for the here and next ,but sometimes you read something that triggers a memory and it makes you feel you were not alone and I wanted to share it here..
 
thanks for reading and hope this makes sense..
 
 


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From: MSN NicknameRuthiethemadoneSent: 5/18/2005 2:48 PM
That makes perfect sense Ms K, thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
 
I don't remember having anyone's words to hang on to when I was growing up, but wish I had, life may not have been so lonely back then.
 
I do remember within my own family having a lesbian cousin. She was alot older than me, and didn't visit very often, but I remember her making a big impact on m when she did visit. She came to visit once when she was on leave from the Army and brought her partner to visit for the first time. I think that was when I opened my eyes for the first time and realised that there was such a thing as lesbians? That's when I started to question my own feelings. That was a really positive thing for me.
 
The negative side was the way some of my close family spoke about her behind her back, the comments and digs they made. I never understood at the time what they meant but it stayed with me. Later on when i understood what they meant, it made it harder for me to come out to my own family. Every time i tried to be honest and tell my mum and sisters I would remember the way they were about my cousin and so it did take me longer to come out than I had hoped!
 
Thanks Ms K. Very thought provoking post!

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From: Ms KellySent: 5/18/2005 11:08 PM
Ruthie thanks for the reply.
It's that, "impact"  you mentioned when you are younger and can mean so much when you are questioning yourself.
It's when I first started looking at myself then and realising I felt different somehow, that reading those few words in that interview in that magazine made me feel some tiny hope back then, whatever that meant then at such a young age.
I also remember me feeling then, that what I felt was, "pure" but as time went on ,you realised some of the world just didn't agree with this sort of thing..
 
thanks Ruthie,I appreciate your words.
 
 
just pasting this below..
 
What I want to ask is, have any of you please had anything similar ,where by a popstar , a movie, a quote, anything at all ,that made you feel you were not alone about your sexuality and before you ever revealed outside of yourself?? and especially in a time when it was seldom mentioned much, do you know what I mean?? thanks.