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From: MSN Nicknamejandancer33  (Original Message)Sent: 11/25/2002 11:30 PM
Okay,
After watching tripping the velvet, I'm now reading the book, lol.
In the chapter I just read, kitty says, "they're not like us, they're TOMS"
 
The book is set in 1889, but does anyone know when the work 'dykes' came into vocab, or even where it came from?
And what about 'LESBIAN' can anyone explain where and when that was invented?
 
Thanx in advance for any replies!  (secretly hoping there'll be some, plzzzzz?)  lol
 
luvin ya's all!
janx


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From: MSN Nicknamejandancer33Sent: 11/28/2002 12:48 AM
thanx lou x x
 
heres links marlene
 
 
 
janx

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From: º°˜¨Çhåm¨˜°ºSent: 11/30/2002 3:37 PM

 

 

Dyke

This term for a lesbian is a clipped form of bulldyker, an American slang term that dates to at least 1906. The clipped form dyke doesn't appear until 1931. The origin is unknown, but the fact that bulldyker is the earliest known form by several decades limits the possibilities significantly.

Douglas Wilson, in Comments on Etymology, Vol. 31, No. 9, May 2002, outlines an interesting hypothesis. He speculates that it may be from Boadicea, the Celtic warrior queen who led the ancient Britons in battle against the Romans. Boadicea's name is also commonly spelled Boudicca or Boudica--forms which can be easily corrupted into bulldyker. The metaphor of an Amazon-like warrior queen for a man-like woman is clear. Boudicca's true sexual orientation is irrelevant (and impossible to determine after two millenia); what is important is the image and the metaphor. Wilson suggests the appearance of the term at the turn of the 20th century may coincide with a renewed interest in the story of Boudicca. A famous London statue of Boudicca in a chariot was dedicated in 1902 and Queen Victoria's death in 1901 invited many comparisons with past English queens, including Boudicca.

Wilson is not the first to make this leap. Judy Grahn suggested in her 1984 book Another Mother Tongue that Boudicca may be the inspiration for bulldyker. But Grahn suggests that that the term dates to Boudicca's days, which is completely untenable. The term is recent, even if the source of its inspiration is old. (Note that the Boudicca hypothesis is speculation. It's interesting, but speculation nonetheless.)

The word is apparently unrelated to dike, meaning an earthen bank used to hold back or control the flow of water, a dam. This sense of dike dates to the 13th century and probably comes from the Old Norse dik.



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From: allileeSent: 11/30/2002 3:46 PM






that didnt make sense!!!!!!!!

 
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Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 07:37:42 -0800


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From: º°˜¨Çhåm¨˜°ºSent: 11/30/2002 4:01 PM
How about this?Break it down some......
 
Possibly derived from Boudicca (Bou-dyke-ah), a Celtic queen who organized a revolt against the Roman Empire in 67 A.D. This empowered woman was seen as a threat to the Roman power structure. Later, its connotation changed to refer to Lesbians, but a harsh stigma remained. In order to take the punch out of the word, Dyke has been reclaimed by some lesbians, who are usually not as feminine as their heterosexual counterparts. Some would even say 'butch.'

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From: º°˜¨Çhåm¨˜°ºSent: 1/7/2003 11:01 PM
A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE BISEXUAL MOVEMENT

Liz A. Highleyman

The Birth of the Bi Movement

The contemporary bisexual movement began in the early 1970s, although
earlier communities of bisexuals did exist, such as the Bloomsbury
community of artists and writers at the turn of the century.  Early
bisexual groups tended to focus broadly on sexual liberation (for
example, the Sexual Freedom League); members of these groups were
often more closely connected to heterosexual ``swinger'' communities
than to gay or lesbian communities.  Many bisexuals were also
associated with the early gay liberation movement, which at the time
advocated sexual freedom and the potential for people to be sexual
with both genders.  As gay activists began to adopt an either/or
``ethnic'' identity-based model of sexuality, however, bisexuals were
faced with exclusion from parts of the gay movement, and some sought
to create specifically bisexual communities and organizations.

The ``Ithaca Statement on Bisexuality'' (by the Quaker Committee of
Friends on Bisexuality) appeared in _The Advocate_ in 1972,
announcing the new bi consciousness to gay readers.  This consciousness
was influenced by the shift of activism toward personal concerns
following the end of the Vietnam war, by increasing gay visibility, by
the feminist and civil rights movements, and by the cultural focus on
paradigm-smashing and self-discovery (often aided by mind-altering
drugs).  This was the era of ``bisexual chic,'' with a rash of
articles in the popular press about bisexuality, and high visibility
of bisexual rock stars and artists.  The media focus was on the club
scene and celebrities rather than on bisexual liberation politics.

The first bisexual groups developed in the 1970s in large U.S.
cities.  The National Bisexual Liberation Group was founded in New
York in 1972 and claimed a large membership in the U.S. and abroad by
1975; it published ``The Bisexual Expression,'' probably the earliest
bi newsletter.  New York City's Bi Forum began in 1975, and Chicago's
BiWays formed in 1978.  The San Francisco Bisexual Center was founded
in 1976, and from the start engaged in political activism.
Throughout this period, bisexuals also continued to be active in gay
and lesbian groups and events.

The early 1980s also saw the development of a bisexual movement in the
U.K. and Europe.  Though this movement paralleled the US movement in
some ways, the U.K. and European groups often arose from different
roots and followed different courses.  The London Bisexual Group was
founded in 1981 by men active in the anti-sexist men's movement.  The
Edinburgh Bisexual Group formed in 1984 as an outgrowth of a
lesbian/gay/bisexual socialists conference.  The discussion later in
this pamphlet regarding trends in the bi movement refers specifically
to the movement in the U.S.

Changes in the 1980s

While the groups of the 1970s were often predominantly male, many of
the 1980s organizations were founded and led by women.  Bisexual women
had begun to experience alienation from lesbian communities as
separatism and polarization around sexual orientation increased in the
late 1970s.  For many bi women, bisexuality was an integral part of
their feminist politics and they wanted their groups to reflect this
emphasis.  The Boston Bisexual Women's Network (formed in 1983) and
the Seattle Bisexual Women's Network (founded in 1986) are based on
these principles.

The formation of bisexual groups proceeded steadily throughout the
1980s.  Washington DC's bisexual group began in the early 1980s.
Philadelphia's Bi Unity, the Wellington Bi Women's Group in New
Zealand, and groups in Germany and Australia formed in the
mid-1980s.  Umbrella groups were formed to facilitate regional
organizing, including the East Coast Bisexual Network in 1985 and the
Bay Area Bisexual Network in 1987.  The first groups devoted
specifically to bisexual political activism were formed, including San
Francisco's BiPol (1983), Boston's BiCEP (1988), and New York City's
BiPAC.

AIDS had a profound effect on the bisexual movement.  Bi men were
stigmatized as spreaders of HIV from homosexuals to the ``general
population.''  In the late 1980s, as awareness of AIDS in women
increased, bisexual women began be to stigmatized as spreaders of HIV
to lesbians.  These developments spurred discussions about the
distinction between sexual behavior and sexual identity (for example,
many self-identified bisexual women did not have sex with men, while
many self-identified lesbians did).  Activists and public health
officials alike began to emphasize behavior, not identity, as a risk
factor for HIV infection.  Many men who had been leaders in the
bisexual movement became ill or died, and many other bi men and women
turned their attention to AIDS-related activism and service work.

National and International Consolidation

In 1987, a call was put out for a bisexual
contingent to the 1987 March on Washington for Gay and Lesbian Rights.
Seventy-five people participated in what proved to be the first U.S.
nationwide bisexual gathering.  Discussion began about creating a
national or continental organization of bisexuals.  Networking
continued following the march, and the North American Bisexual Network
in formation (NABN) was born.  In June 1990, BiPOL organized the first
U.S. National Bisexual Conference in San Francisco, with over 400
attendees.  The conference was comprised of over eighty workshops on a
broad range of subjects, including organizational meetings; as a
result of these meetings, NABN was formalized as the North American
Multicultural Bisexual Network (NAMBN).  After a year of discussion
and re-organization, NAMBN was renamed in the summer of 1991 to BiNet:
the Bisexual Network of the USA.  In October 1991 the First
International Conference on Bisexuality was held in Amsterdam in the
Netherlands, and in October 1992 the Second International Bisexual
Conference took place in London, bringing together bisexuals from
Europe, the U.K., and the U.S.  The second U.S. National Conference
on Bisexuality is being held in April 1993 in conjunction with the
March on Washington for Lesbian, Gay and Bi Equal Rights and
Liberation, and the third international bisexual conference is planned
for June 1994 in New York City in conjunction with the celebration of
the 25th anniversary of the Stonewall Riots (widely considered to be
the birth of the modern gay rights movement).

New Directions in the 1990s

In the late 1980s and early 1990s students and youth became more
active in the bisexual movement.  College students began to include
bisexuals by name in campus gay and lesbian organizations, with over
100 such groups in existence by the end of the decade.  At the same
time, a new ``queer movement'' had begun to take shape.  Young
activists, many of whom were involved with the AIDS activist group ACT
UP, formed Queer Nation in the summer of 1990.  With its emphasis on
diversity, radical politics and direct action, this movement brought
out people who had become disillusioned by the assimilationism and
apoliticism of existing gay and bi organizations.  Parts of the new
movement emphasize the inclusion of bisexuals, transgenderists and
other sexual minorities under the queer umbrella; other parts are less
welcoming to those who are not exclusively homosexual.

At the turn of the decade there was a marked increase in the
appearance of new books on bisexuality, which until then had been
scarce and rather clinical.  Groundbreaking anthologies included
_Bisexual Lives_ (Off Pink Publishing, 1988), _Bi Any
Other Name: Bisexual People Speak Out_ (Alyson Publications, 1990) and
_Closer to Home: Bisexuality and Feminism_ (Seal Press, 1992).
In 1991 the bi movement gained its first glossy national magazine
_Anything That Moves: Beyond the Myths of Bisexuality_, which
joined the many long-lived local newsletters such as Boston's
_BiWomen_, Seattle's _North Bi Northwest_, and
Philadelphia's _Bi Focus_.

The early 1990s saw a proliferation of appearances by bisexual people
in the U.S. and U.K. media, including such popular national talk shows
as ``Donahue'' and ``Geraldo.''  Universities have begun to include
bisexuality in their gay and lesbian studies courses, and a few have
even introduced courses specifically devoted to bisexuality.  National
and international bisexual networking has been aided by the creation
of electronic computer mailing lists such as the BISEXU-L and BIFEM-L
lists, the soc.bi newsgroup on Usenet, and numerous private bulletin
boards.  There are ongoing projects to record the history of bisexual
movement and promote networking, such as the International Bisexual
Archives in Boston and the International Directory of Bisexual Groups.

Looking Ahead

Moving toward the mid-1990s, several issues are on agenda for the
bisexual movement.  There is a growing emphasis on multicultural
organizing and activism, and many are working actively to increase the
participation of people of color in bisexual communities.
Transgendered and differently-gendered people have long been active
within bisexual communities, but have often remained hidden and been
excluded where only single-sex groups exist.  Today, their concerns
are receiving more explicit attention, and many transgendered and
non-transgendered bisexuals are focusing on breaking down polarized
gender categories.  There is persistent tension within the movement
between the desire to proudly claim a bisexual identity and build
strong bisexual communities, and the desire to lessen society's
divisive emphasis on labels and categories.  Some bisexual activists
focus on the category-smashing aspect, insisting that sexuality and
gender should be viewed as a spectrum, that there is no ``us'' and
``them.''  Other bi activists emphasize the need to fight societal
homophobia, as well as fighting biphobia among gay men and lesbians.

As the bisexual movement has grown, so too has the number of
strategies and perspectives on bisexual organizing.  Many bisexuals
have focused on increasing bisexual inclusion within the lesbian and gay
movement and communities; this is especially true of bisexuals who
formerly identified as lesbian or gay themselves.  The 1993 March on
Washington will be the first U.S. national action to explicitly include
bisexuals, and is being seen as a big step forward for the bisexual
movement.  Other bis are interested in creating a broader movement for
sexual liberation (including all sexual and gender minorities) in
which bisexuals will be equal participants, rather than seeking
integration into existing gay and lesbian organizations.  Some wish to
create a movement that will focus on bisexuals and their unique
issues, while at the same working in alliance with gay men, lesbians,
and other oppressed groups when our struggles coincide.  Still others
are interested in organizing and mobilizing bisexuals who do not
identify with or have ties to gay and lesbian communities.  All these
strategies can make a contribution as the bisexual movement and its
many communities grows and diversifies.

A version of this text will appear in the
_Concise Encyclopedia of Homosexuality_, edited by S. Donaldson,
forthcoming.  Thanks to M. Beer, S.  Berger, D. Berry, W. Bryant, A.
Hamilton and R. Ochs for editorial assistance.  Please send
corrections and additions to Liz c/o ECBN.

The Birth of the Bi Movement

The contemporary bisexual movement began in the early 1970s, although
earlier communities of bisexuals did exist, such as the Bloomsbury
community of artists and writers at the turn of the century.  Early
bisexual groups tended to focus broadly on sexual liberation (for
example, the Sexual Freedom League); members of these groups were
often more closely connected to heterosexual ``swinger'' communities
than to gay or lesbian communities.  Many bisexuals were also
associated with the early gay liberation movement, which at the time
advocated sexual freedom and the potential for people to be sexual
with both genders.  As gay activists began to adopt an either/or
``ethnic'' identity-based model of sexuality, however, bisexuals were
faced with exclusion from parts of the gay movement, and some sought
to create specifically bisexual communities and organizations.

The ``Ithaca Statement on Bisexuality'' (by the Quaker Committee of
Friends on Bisexuality) appeared in _The Advocate_ in 1972,
announcing the new bi consciousness to gay readers.  This consciousness
was influenced by the shift of activism toward personal concerns
following the end of the Vietnam war, by increasing gay visibility, by
the feminist and civil rights movements, and by the cultural focus on
paradigm-smashing and self-discovery (often aided by mind-altering
drugs.)  This was the era of ``bisexual chic,'' with a rash of
articles in the popular press about bisexuality, and high visibility
of bisexual rock stars and artists.  The media focus was on the club
scene and celebrities rather than on bisexual liberation politics.

The first bisexual groups developed in the 1970s in large U.S.
cities.  The National Bisexual Liberation Group was founded in New
York in 1972 and claimed a large membership in the U.S. and abroad by
1975; it published ``The Bisexual Expression,'' probably the earliest
bi newsletter.  New York City's Bi Forum began in 1975, and Chicago's
BiWays formed in 1978.  The San Francisco Bisexual Center was founded
in 1976, and from the start engaged in political activism.  The late
1970s witnessed the formation of bisexual groups in Europe including
the London Bisexual Group in England, the Edinburgh Bisexual Group in
Scotland, and the Landelijk Netwerk Bisexualiteit in the Netherlands.
Throughout this period, bisexuals also continued to be active in gay
and lesbian groups and events.

Changes in the 1980s

While the groups of the 1970s were often predominantly male, many of
the 1980s organizations were founded and led by women.  Bisexual women
had begun to experience alienation from lesbian communities as
separatism and polarization around sexual orientation increased in the
late 1970s.  For many bi women, bisexuality was an integral part of
their feminist politics and they wanted their groups to reflect this
emphasis.  The Boston Bisexual Women's Network (formed in 1983) and
the Seattle Bisexual Women's Network (founded in 1986) are based on
these principles.

The formation of bisexual groups proceeded steadily throughout the
1980s.  Washington DC's bisexual group began in the early 1980s.
Philadelphia's Bi Unity, the Wellington Bi Women's Group in New
Zealand, and groups in Germany, Finland and Australia formed in the
mid-1980s.  Umbrella groups were formed to facilitate regional
organizing, including the East Coast Bisexual Network in 1985 and the
Bay Area Bisexual Network in 1987.  The first groups devoted
specifically to bisexual political activism were formed, including San
Francisco's BiPol (1983), Boston's BiCEP (1988), and New York City's
BiPAC.

AIDS had a profound effect on the bisexual movement.  Bi men were
stigmatized as spreaders of HIV from homosexuals to the ``general
population.''  In the late 1980s, as awareness of AIDS in women
increased, bisexual women began be to stigmatized as spreaders of HIV
to lesbians.  These developments spurred discussions about the
distinction between sexual behavior and sexual identity (for example,
many self-identified bisexual women did not have sex with men, while
many self-identified lesbians did.)  Public health officials and
activists alike began to emphasize behavior, not identity, as a risk
factor for HIV infection.  Many men who had been leaders in the
bisexual movement became ill or died, and many other bi men and women
turned their attention to AIDS-related activism and service work.

National and International Consolidation

In 1987, a call was put out for a bisexual contingent to the 1987
March on Washington for Gay and Lesbian Rights.  Seventy-five people
participated in what proved to be the first nationwide bisexual
gathering.  Discussion began about creating a national or continental
organization of bisexuals.  Networking continued following the march,
and the North American Bisexual Network in formation (NABN) was born.
In June 1990, BiPOL organized the First National Bisexual Conference
in San Francisco, with over 400 attendees.  The conference was
comprised of over eighty workshops on a broad range of subjects,
including organizational meetings; as a result of these meetings, NABN
was formalized as the North American Multicultural Bisexual Network
(NAMBN).  After a year of discussion and re-organization, NAMBN was
renamed in the summer of 1991 to BiNet: the Bisexual Network of the
USA.  In October 1991 the First International Conference on
Bisexuality was held in Amsterdam in the Netherlands, bringing
together bisexuals from several European countries and the U.S.  The
second National Conference on Bisexuality is to be held in April 1993
in conjunction with the _1993 National March on Washington for Lesbian,
Gay and Bi Equal Rights and Liberation_, and an international bisexual
conference is planned for June 1994 in New York City in conjunction
with the celebration of the 25th anniversary of the Stonewall Riots
(widely considered to be the birth of the modern gay rights movement).

New Directions in the 1990s

In the late 1980s and early 1990s students and youth became more
active in the bisexual movement.  College students began to include
bisexuals by name in campus gay and lesbian organizations, with over
130 such groups in existence by the end of the decade.  At the same
time, a new ``queer movement'' had begun to take shape.  Young
activists, many of whom were involved with the AIDS activist group ACT
UP, formed Queer Nation in the summer of 1990.  With its emphasis on
diversity, radical politics and direct action, this movement brought
out people who had become disillusioned by the assimilationism and
apoliticism of existing gay and bi organizations.  Parts of the new
movement emphasize the inclusion of bisexuals, transgenderists and
other sexual minorities under the queer umbrella; other parts are less
welcoming to those who are not exclusively homosexual.

At the turn of the decade there was a marked increase in the
appearance of new books on bisexuality, which until then had been
scarce and rather clinical.  Groundbreaking anthologies included
_Bisexual Lives_ (Off Pink Publishing, 1988), _Bi Any
Other Name: Bisexual People Speak Out_ (Alyson Publications, 1990) and
_Closer to Home: Bisexuality and Feminism_ (Seal Press, 1992).
In 1991 the bi movement gained its first glossy national magazine
_Anything That Moves: Beyond the Myths of Bisexuality_, which
joined the many long-lived local newsletters such as Boston's
_BiWomen_, Seattle's _North Bi Northwest_, and
Philadelphia's _Bi Focus_.

The early 1990s saw a proliferation of appearances by bisexual people
in the U.S. media, including such popular national talk shows as
``Donahue'' and ``Geraldo.''  Universities have begun to include
bisexuality in their gay and lesbian studies courses, and a few have
even introduced courses specifically devoted to bisexuality.  National
and international bisexual networking has been aided by the creation
of electronic computer mailing lists such as the _bisexu-l_ and
_bifem-l_ lists, the _soc.bi_ newsgroup on Usenet, and
numerous private computer bulletin boards.  There are ongoing projects
to record the history of bisexual movement and promote networking,
such as the International Bisexual Archives in Boston and the
International Directory of Bisexual Groups.

Looking Ahead

Moving toward the mid-1990s, several issues are on the agenda for the
bisexual movement.  There is a growing emphasis on multicultural
organizing and activism, and many are working actively to increase the
participation of people of color in bisexual communities.
Transgendered and differently-gendered people have long been active
within bisexual communities, but have often remained hidden and been
excluded where only single-sex groups exist.  Today, their concerns
are receiving more explicit attention, and many transgendered and
non-transgenedered bisexuals are focusing on breaking down polarized
gender categories.  There is persistent tension within the movement
between the desire to proudly claim a bisexual identity and build
strong bisexual communities, and the desire to lessen society's
divisive emphasis on labels and categories.  Some bisexual activists
focus on the category-smashing aspect, insisting that sexuality and
gender should be viewed as a spectrum, that there is no ``us'' and
``them.''  Other bi activists emphasize the need to fight societal
homophobia, as well as fighting biphobia among gay men and lesbians.

As the bisexual movement has grown, so too has the number of
strategies and perspectives on bisexual organizing.  Many bisexuals
have focused on increasing bisexual inclusion with the lesbian and gay
movement and communities; this is especially true of bisexuals who
formerly identified as lesbian or gay themselves.  The 1993 National
March on Washington will be the first national action to explicitly
include bisexuals, and is being seen as a big step forward for the
bisexual movement.  Other bis are interested in creating a broader
movement for sexual liberation (including all sexual and gender
minorities) in which bisexuals will be equal participants, rather than
seeking integration into existing gay and lesbian organizations.  Some
wish to create a movement that will focus on bisexuals and their
unique issues, while at the same time working in alliance with gay men,
lesbians, and other oppressed groups when our struggles coincide.
Still others are interested in organizing and mobilizing bisexuals who
do not identify with or have ties to gay and lesbian communities.  All
these strategies can make a contribution as the bisexual movement and
its many communities grows and diversifies.

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From: MSN NicknamemadmollymillionsSent: 3/11/2003 2:25 PM
 erm didn't the 'little dutch boy' put his fingers in the dyke
 
rofl
 
its where i always imagined it to come from!

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From: MSN Nicknamejandancer33Sent: 3/11/2003 2:40 PM
kay
lmao
you crack me up!!!!!!
janx  x x x

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From: MSN NicknameYourKemySent: 9/8/2004 7:36 AM
 so... thats the history... didnt read it all...  i got lost interests in history... no wonder i failed history exams...
 
charm, i thought u broke it down something simpler...  ah well...
 
 
 
kemy

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From: MSN Nicknameº°˜Çhåm˜°ºSent: 9/9/2004 12:42 AM
I did.....Message #9
 
How about this?Break it down some......
 
Possibly derived from Boudicca (Bou-dyke-ah), a Celtic queen who organized a revolt against the Roman Empire in 67 A.D. This empowered woman was seen as a threat to the Roman power structure. Later, its connotation changed to refer to Lesbians, but a harsh stigma remained. In order to take the punch out of the word, Dyke has been reclaimed by some lesbians, who are usually not as feminine as their heterosexual counterparts. Some would even say 'butch.'
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameMsLushus1Sent: 9/9/2004 11:38 PM
Can't answer your questions,Jan,but I can recommend you read "FINGERSMITH",also by Sarah Waters...I have to say it's my favourite book,EVER,bar none!!,love,Julie x

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From: MSN Nicknamejandancer33Sent: 9/10/2004 8:07 PM
hi lush
yup! own that book too lol
i enjoyed that more than affinity, (have you read that?) but tipping the velvet still my favorite
hugs janx

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From: MSN NicknameMsLushus1Sent: 9/12/2004 12:17 AM
Yes,Jan...read "AFFINITY",but I like "FINGERSMITH" best. I like it so much I bought my friends and family copies of it for their birthdays this year!

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From: MSN NicknameYourKemySent: 9/12/2004 7:00 PM
please do tell me what FINGERSMITH is about.....
 
kemy

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From: MSN NicknameMsLushus1Sent: 9/14/2004 7:02 AM
"FINGERSMITH",by Sarah Waters is  about pickpockets and petty thieves,but the story has a brilliant twist and deserves a read.(The 2 main characters,both girls,have a strong attraction to each other...but I don't want to spoil anyone's enjoyment of a great story!...GO GET IT! IT'S FAB!!).

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From: MSN Nicknamejandancer33Sent: 9/14/2004 11:45 PM
MsLush
so apart from sarah waters, what other books/genre's do you read? there's a book review board if you'd like to reccommend any books.
 
kemy
yes... sarah waters was quite clever with her choice of title lol but it's entirely innocent, and a great read

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