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| | | From: amy2 (Original Message) | Sent: 12/30/2000 6:08 PM |
When I was 8 yrs old I had a dream,that was so vivid I have always remembered it.I was sleeping in my bed and a man sized hand had come up from under my bed and grabbed hold of my arm so tightly that I woke up and could still feel where it had grabbed me ,it was as if someone had really had a hold of my arm,It hurt very much.For months I thought there was a monster under my bed,and I would sleep in the center,making sure my arms would not go near the side in case it where to get me again.Anyhow this is where the twist to this story comes in.First I must give a little back ground info,so bare with me plz.My mother raised me alone since 1or 2 yrs old,that is when she left my dad and I had no contact with him,or knew what he looked like,until I met him for the first time a few days before he was killed in a terrible accident at work.He had other children, from other women,as he was married 3 times(busy man your thinking to your self).I did not have much contact with them, other than a few times,and nothing after he died.I am now 34 years old,and just two years ago,one of his sons,my half brother found me we live in different cities, but not to far. I had invited him to come and visit,and we could get to know each other.On our second visit with each other out of nowhere he tells me of a dream he and his mother shared on the same night.It was the same dream I had .I could not tell you how much time there was inbetween his death and the time I had the dream ,but it was in the same year after he had died. The only difference between ours was that he knew it was our dad's hand that had grabbed him,and his mother also knew it was him.I had know way of knowing this I would not have recognised his hands,I had just barely met him, I thought it was a monster under my bed.Any how my bother discribed the feeling he had as,If he had managed to keep a hold of him,he would have been pulled down, out of this world.I felt that This hand also wanted me.Scared the begezzus out of me. Thanks for taking the time to read this,and I look forward to any remarks  Amy2 |
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| | | From: amy2 | Sent: 1/6/2001 7:42 PM |
Still looking forward to any reply's Thanks Amy2 |
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Wow..amy quite the dream i have not experienced one like this before but i am sure there are members here who can help with it i will keep popping it to the top untill we get some reply's blessings Amy Hoop |
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I am not certain. Sounds more real than a dream. But it could be both. A dead man who doesnt want to go on. tries to reach out to those that share some kind of genetic similarity with them. To maybe take you or be you. This isn't my forte. So im not sure. |
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Occasionally within a dream it is partly reality. what you felt actually did happen, I will give you an example, Falling out of bed, can happen both within a drem or in reality at the same time, when there is water put on your body while asleep you might dream of rain. As long as this type of occurance doesnt happen again, Be greatful. |
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| | | From: amy2 | Sent: 1/7/2001 6:48 AM |
Thank you all for taking time to read my dream, I know it is kinda long. Hoop: thanks for your thoughtfulness, I would realy like someone to take a shot at explaining this.Very strange isn't it. Jaraxle Baenre: I dont recall whether I had the impression that they wanted to stay with me or take me,But my half brother did say he had the impression that he would be taken. I do remember that it was a very strong hold on my arm.And not a tender thing at all, maybe was trying not to go.very scary for me. I was young. Featherspirit: I may have misunderstood what you ment about it really happening and then it becoming part of your dream, but i am assuming that is what you ment. I am not sure that was possible.There was only my mother and me at the time know one else there to be grabbing my arm .I remember it being my left arm which was the closest to the wall .there was not enough room for someone to be on that side of my bed. My hand and part of my arm was over the edge of the bed.It was very strange, I seemed to wake with a start, and was wide awake. It was not a gradual waking up type of thing.And I could still feel it. I remember it well. So if someone had grabbed me I would have seen them leaving the room ,or in the room ect.. I am greatful that it has not happened again,and hope it never does.I have had a similiar dream more resent though,that my hand had been burnt and when i woke I still had the burning feeling ,that one was a more gradual waking up like I normally do.But the burning feeling took quite a while to fade also. That is all I recall of that one,dont know why my hand was burning. I do have something to add, my father was working when the accident accured,he was burnt over 90% of his body, 3rd degree burns, I went to the library and found the old news paper clippings.He lived 24 hrs after the accident. He asked to see my mom before he died, The hospital would not allow me in,I had to wait in the hall outside the room.As I was to young. I dont know if that has anything to do with the other dream or not ,but the lingering feelings on my body were the same. Only have had that kinda dream twice. Thank you again for your reply's. Amy2 |
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Amy what I was trying to say is that a spirit could have grabbed you in your sleep to the point you felt it in your dream. I will share a dream I had, which at the same time was happening in real life, with one exception, In my dream I had a book on my bed which I kicked off, In real life I had no book, but my mom heard a loud thump and came running. This happened around the age of 11, My parents had gone to a PTA meeting at school and left my Brother Dave in charge, I wasnt feeling to well so I was laying on the couch. My little brother, acting the way he does, Pulled my hair, which gave me an aweful headache. So I went to bed. Now for the Dream. While I was sleeping, my parents came home and my brother Dave was telling my parents what had happened that eveving, They were talking in the Living Room, I was in my bed and was shaking from head to toe,(was having a seizure) and was crying out somebody help me, help me, I managed to kick my book I had been reading off my bed to get their attention, they came runing in, to see if I was ok. Now for reality, everything which had occured in the dream actually happened in real life with the exception of the book falling off my bed, But my parents heard a thud and thought I had fallen out of bed, ( I had that habit), I was still laying in the bed. Now I ask you,, What did my parents hear fall, If I was still on my bed, and there was no book. This was what I was trying to explain, concerning yes, dream and yes reality. |
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| | | From: amy2 | Sent: 1/7/2001 5:05 PM |
Oh k , thanks feather, for explaining . I gottcha now Amy2 |
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| | | From: Rein | Sent: 1/8/2001 5:43 AM |
| Hello Amy :) As i read your post regarding the dream, you mentioned that you were very young when your father died. I believe the part of you that wrote the post was your inner child. I connected with that alot when i read it. The not knowing, and seeking some understanding of that event so many years ago. Perhaps something to be resolved at this time. Recently, you had a similar dream experience in which your hand (same hand) was burning. You mentioned that this was how your father died (following a burn accident). This does make me feel that your subconscious mind is trying to remind you of that night long ago so you can resolve this point.. In your first post, you mentioned that the hand was foreign to you, that you equated it with having experienced some sort of 'monster'. The later dream of burning, could be your minds way of drawing the correlation between the hand, and your dad (who suffered burns). Sometimes when we have something we cant resolve, an incident or even an over charged emotional moment (such as the pain of your father leaving when you were 2), we turn off a switch (nerve) in our mind that associates to that moment - then later we turn it back on based upon our ability now to handle whatever it is that we need to resolve. At 2, many things are overwhelming - and having parents fighting on the way to a divorce or separation couldnt be understood or emotionally digested by a 2 year old. Those are adult problems. Those memories of the moments that are unresolved are stored in our bodies as emotion. And, it is not uncommon for a person to experience some sort of pain or aching in the area of the body where an emotion is burried (the body's way of reminding you - you left something unresolved parked here! hehe. Keep seeking an answer to that memory you have. I applaud you for seeking to understand what occured. Best path, Artemisrein |
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| | | From: amy2 | Sent: 1/8/2001 6:50 AM |
Thank you Rein, for your reply also. Made a lot of sence. The very strange thing though, is the fact that 2 other people also experienced this dream . I spoke with my brother tonight and shared with him, that I had posted this experience we had .His responce to me calling it a dream was that it was not, a dream. He was awoken by a hand that seemed to come from the no where.His mother also experienced the same thing that night. And of course myself. I am coming to believe that this was not a dream at all, but was real. What I don't understand is what he wanted with us. If he was reaching out to stay in this world, or was he trying to take us with him. Maybe something he felt unresolved maybe? Another thing that makes me think is the fact that all the years that had gone by ,and no attempt was made to have contact. Then to finally meet him,and then he die's within days of this. Maybe he felt that he needed more time? Maybe I will never know. I was hoping for by posting this, that someone who can connect with spirit would be able to give me some ansawers.It is very scary to me to think that someone that has passed on could come and take you ,as my brother feels that ,this was the intention. Amy2 |
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pop Top Kellog please take a gander |
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| | | From: amy2 | Sent: 1/14/2001 5:12 AM |
Thanks hoop was hopeing he would Amy2 |
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You guys have to do better than that... here let me show you how to get Kellog's attention.... Hot Pastrami sandwich over here and a burning question! here goat |
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| | | From: amy2 | Sent: 1/15/2001 6:59 PM |
BIG BIG , MOUTH WATERING .BIG HONKIN SANDWICH HERE. Is that all better Intence lol |
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For an 8-year old --- Monsters rule the world outside the bedroom, and the Domain under the Bed. Welcome, amy2, to SLC's Dreamland Interpretation Extravaganza. Where anyone's intimate dreams and visions are served up 'fancy side up" for our up-scale tastebuds and inquisitive intellects. Where the owner of a Lucid Dream becomes the host at a carving party...and everyone eats their fill of the stuffing. I'm a decent chef, and my knives are sharp, so this won't hurt much --- but it'll bleed and Burn brightly. so let's begin. What Is a dream, anywho? For an 8-year old, it's a mighty place --- where the limitations of the day and chills of the night can be swept away with a Magic Stick -- or a tootsie roll -- or a Barbie doll. It's also a Sanctuary...you get to meet and greet the oldies and moldies, and the fact that they happen to be Croaked bothers you not a Bit, at least during the visit. And this is the fun part; it's a two-way Hall of Shadows...a way to See and be Seen. A sorta Last-Chance meet-me great big 'ole room/like/arean/like/park...where ya get to say "bye" to folks ya never knew, but mighta wanted to. It works two-way here, too; folks who want to Connect with you as they Pass on --- didn't get or make the chance to during Life...and now, they get to reach out and say...whatever they need or want or screech about, in the shallow minutes prior to the Passing. Sometimes the Connection is soft and gentle and might have a fragrant scent with it, like jasemine or lavender or an El Rolo cigar...and sometimes the Touch is hard, demanding, unyielding...much like the person was in Life. And unfortunately, sometimes, the person Passing does so, in pain and frustration and anger at unresolved issues, unattended matters, and the bitter pill of living a life of 'what-might-have-beens." In these instances, what is shared in the Touch during Passing --- is the main emotion that the passing spirit has on it's mind --- whether remorse, frustration, anger, dispair...or simple sadness at a lost opportunity. He wanted to see you, to have you visit, one last time - before he left. He was closely attached to his children; All of them, despite what you heard. He missed All his children not being together. I won't go into that any further than to say...it was mightily important to him that he reach out to you at his passing. He was in pain - physical and emotional; his death was not calm. His passing, once on the Other side --- was much softer. But the Passing was rough, he did not want to go. His Will reached out to you, and did the only thing he was capable of doing at that point; he held you and sent what he felt/thought at that point, to share with you. The 'pulling down" was not that he wanted to hurt you --- it was that he didn't want to Leave you, or to die. he didn't realize that his Visit would be felt as a nightmare. This part is for you, Amy: Not all monsters are bad, Amy --- and this one should not be eternally punished for his mistakes. All monsters make mistakes, we're only human. Try to see this in the Light of Discernment; he may have left you the first time, but he didn't leave you the second time; he was taken. It's easy to become callous at the pain others cause us; it's difficult to move through the scars and reach a cool peace with one's memory. Don't cut off the memory of him, and don't hate him for abandoning you:: Embrace, accept, release - Amy. I hope you can carry the positive aspect of that Monster visit, Amy: he reached out to you as he was Leaving, to say "hello, I love you, and goodbye." Folks in SLC will tell ya; I don't always give ya what ya wanted to hear --- but i always give ya the View. Only thing that heals the heart --- is Love. alo vera yeowza, and good luck. |
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| | | From: amy2 | Sent: 1/17/2001 1:38 AM |
Thank you Kellog for your explaination. It is one that I believe. You are right on . I do not feel any hard feeling for him anymore, My feelings are of saddness for him, and I am sure that he felt alot of guilt in this life. I only feel sorry at the loss of what may have been. Thanks again and a huge pastromi sandwich for you Amy2 |
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