Rei Ki
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intense_female : I've also had a Reiki master scan me and I could certainly feel it
intense_female : yes it can sea
seadreema : mine also burned with healing energy long before I started Reiki training
Chiguy08 : I also felt it as being magnetic one time
intense_female : many people have that happen
intense_female : Yoga I have a hard question for you now
seadreema : and I could do distance healing
seadreema : which evidently I shouldn't be able to do yet
seadreema : lol
yoga(tm) : okay I like the hard ones
intense_female : you said when you gave the history that the dude went to the Buddhists who said they had given up healing. Healing the mind was more important than healing the body
intense_female : I want to know do you agree?
yoga(tm) : not really. I think they go hand in hand.
intense_female : hmm I agree with them
yoga(tm) : I think you need to respect your entire self and be
balanced, not just stuck in the mind
seadreema : yes Yoga
Gia1018 : yeah..
Gia1018 : I agree Yoga
Laurelovely01 : I'm not sure I agree
intense_female : I've pondered this alot yoga since I gave up
healing
servalbear : I have a question that goes back to Kaera's comment
servalbear : if you have the intent, would you not have the ability to believe?
intense_female : because if taking an aspirin only numbs the signals your body sends you declaring something is wrong
yoga(tm) : Buddhism goes both ways on that too. Tantra says to engage the physical as a means for understanding
intense_female : then healing that same pain does the same doesn't it?
servalbear : would you be able to do the placebo without the intent?
Laurelovely01 : the mind is the source of all illness...is it not?
yoga(tm) : I see what you're saying intense and I agree on that point
intense_female : Serval if its the recipients intent the placebo still occurs
Kaera_ : the intent is the belief Serval
Gia1018 : well.. not necessarily..
Gia1018 : necessarily, I mean
Gia1018 : I mean, think about polio
Gia1018 : or chickenpox
Chiguy08 : mind can heal the body
Izno_Worm : well if u got a broken leg u cant "believe it" back together right away
intense_female : I can't cure either of those
Gia1018 : maybe..
Laurelovely01 : what caused your weakened immune system to allow you catch chickenpox?
Gia1018 : but maybe mind is sometimes not enough
Izno_Worm : I mean I see those who were told they could never walk winde up doing it
seadreema : mind can, spirit can too
yoga(tm) : but if you know you're drinking water, but take an aspirin for the dehydration headache in the meantime... no biggie
Gia1018 : because, otherwise why are we physical beings
Gia1018 : I mean, our minds should have sufficed to let us live on the thought dimension
yoga(tm) : maybe mind is enough if we don't always think "maybe"
intense_female : lol... maybe
Gia1018 : maybe.. <SMILE>
yoga(tm) : it's the doubt that stops things from happening lol maybe
Kaera_ : I would like to add something... no healing can occur unless the person who is "ill" accepts that healing
Izno_Worm : Bruce Lee once said "knowing isn't enuf, u must apply, willing isn't enough u must do" I feel that applies here
Chiguy08 : You're not supposed to live in thought
yoga(tm) : I like that worm
seadreema : true chi
Gia1018 : oh well... cynicism is the salt and pepper of humanity, I guess
Gia1018 : or at least, sometimes..
intense_female : I agree Kaera however the receiver doesn't always fully realize that they do or don't accept
yoga(tm) : very true
Kaera_ : that is true
Gia1018 : yes..
Chiguy08 : what happens to you physically is a manifestation of what is in you.
seadreema : and some say they accept
seadreema : but still block
intense_female : I have a teacher that teaches me and I think I'm accepting the teaching only later to find out I didn't completely
intense_female : could be chi but you know... poison ivy is a bitch
intense_female : you may overcome the desire to itch
Chiguy08 : hehe
intense_female : but its still a bitch
Izno_Worm : sum ppl get off on pain
intense_female : lol, sum yeah
intense_female : see now that is a good side effect to a healing
intense_female : if someone feeds their own illness with worry
intense_female : and they believe you can heal them
intense_female : and you do a healing
yoga(tm) : lmao
Whispering_Moon(r) : nite all ty yoga you did good
intense_female : the healing has occurred
intense_female : how many here think that sometimes illness is self punishment?
intense_female : subconscious
yoga(tm) raises her hand
Laurelovely01 : oh yeah!
Liriel22 : the mind can affect the body in powerful ways
Izno_Worm : I feel it is part of it
Brokentower : illness is a physiological reaction
intense_female : agreed
Izno_Worm : meaning all of it
Izno_Worm : and none of it
Izno_Worm : the usual
Liriel22 : some hypochondriacs do display symptoms with no obvious hysical reason for them
Izno_Worm : psychology has a whole field of psychological illnesses affecting the body physically
intense_female : I once had a terrible bladder infection
intense_female : a friends mom is a homeopath and she came to me and asked "why are you rejecting your own sexuality"
intense_female : BOOM
Liriel22 : sometimes people can believe they blind hard enough that they actually are, even when nothing is wrong with their eyes or their optic nerves or the relevant parts of the brain
intense_female : and she was right... I was being used by the guy I was sleeping with and it made me feel terrible
Kaera_ : all illness comes from the emotional body... manifested in the physical
intense_female : so it surfaced itself in a bladder infection (me rejecting my own sexuality)
intense_female : but who thinks of it that way
Gia1018 : well, bladder infection is common among women
Izno_Worm : sum illnesses
Gia1018 : so that means that lots of us have the same emotional problems
Gia1018 : ??
intense_female : I disagree Kaera... some is simply physical. If you neglect your body you get sick.
Chiguy08 : hmm
intense_female : not necessarily Gia... but she was right on with me
intense_female : she's intuitive too
Kaera_ : if you neglect your body could it not be because of an emotional issue?
Gia1018 : I'm glad it worked for you intense..
Izno_Worm : and I've known sum seriously f'ed ppl who were in great physical shape
Gia1018 : depressed people often do that Kaera
intense_female : what about starving children in Ethiopia?
Chiguy08 : yeah it has to work both ways.
yoga(tm) : it goes both ways though... neglect body...can cause
imbalance...cause out of whack brain
Izno_Worm : or aids
intense_female : agreed yoga
yoga(tm) : they go hand in hand
Gia1018 : point well made
Mantis__Knight : bladder infections are horrid
intense_female : oh I love having all of these perspectives
yoga(tm) : lol
Gia1018 : folks, gotta go now...