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From: Rob and Jan  (Original Message)Sent: 2/2/2007 11:51 PM
Hello,
 
Have had no luck in tracing the ancestry of my G3Grandather Henry McDermott(c1793)and his Son(my G2 Grandfather)James McDermott(c1821)both being Irish Born.The English 1861 census has James as being born in Dundock,Ireland,believe this could be Dundalk in County Louth.
Henry appeared in a boarding situation inKnotty Ash,Liverpool on the 1841 Census and unable to find a entirely certain sighting after that,does appear to have died in the 2nd quarter of 1867 in the West Derby District,Liverpool.
James married Elizabeth Antrobus in Liverpool on 2nd feb.1845 and lived,until his death in the 1st quarter of 1891(he does not appear on the 1891 Census).He was a labourer on the 1851 Census and,after that,a mason/quarryman/quarrymans labourer(there was a quarry close to Walton Village).
 
Any assistance you can give in tracing the roots of these ancestors would be invaluable.
 
Best wishes,
 
Rob Kellett,Morrinsville,New Zealand
 


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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 2/3/2007 7:37 AM
Hi Rob and welcome,Yes I totally Agree with you,I to would have thought father came over First.Maybe looking for work.Then the Family Followed.I took a look on couple of Census last night.The james looked a possibility although 1810.I think you had 21.But then found that Henry.I hope to take a better look tonight.If not ill run a few searches
 
Mike

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 Message 6 of 19 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 2/3/2007 5:18 PM

The Leitrim-Roscommon
Griffiths Search
Output

Map
Ref.
Surname Given County Barony Parish Townland City or Street Lessor Description Acres Roods Perches L A N D B L D G T O T A L
Pound Shill Pound Shill Pound Shill
(6)1.a McDermott Henry Roscommon Boyle Boyle Greatmeadow   William Knott Offs ld 6 3 0 6 15 1 0 7 15
(6)10.46 McDermott Henry Roscommon Boyle Boyle Knocknashee Boyle Town; Bridge St Viscount Lorton Ho (pt of) 0 0 0 0 0 14 0 14 0

2 Total Matches

Hi Rob,I found Two,Henry McDermotts,In The Griffiths DataBase,These would be for year 1854 to 1868,It Does not give much info away,So Need to check out Further

Mike


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 Message 7 of 19 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 2/3/2007 5:35 PM
Surname of freeholder: McDermott
Forename(s) of freeholder: Henry
Address of freeholder (townland or street): Sleaveban
Occupation of freeholder:
Religion:
Name of landlord:
Address of landlord:
County: Fermanagh
Parish: Magherakillmony
Date of registry: 1796
Candidates: N

Rob,This one is more near the date you were searching for

Mike


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 Message 8 of 19 in Discussion 
From: Rob and JanSent: 2/3/2007 6:36 PM
Hi Mike,
 
I believe that Henry had left Ireland before 1841(I suppose he could have returned to Ireland for a while,but it doesn't seem likely,does it?).The 2nd message has a 1796 registry date(approx my Henry's birth)but does this relate to the Land-holders birth or registation of the holding?
Must admit that I'm not familiar with these kind of documents and would appreciate any help you can give in illuminating them to me.
 
Best Wishes,
 
Rob

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 Message 9 of 19 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 2/3/2007 7:29 PM
Hi Rob Its the registry of the Holding,I have Checked it out so not correct
 
Mike

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 Message 10 of 19 in Discussion 
From: Rob and JanSent: 2/3/2007 10:11 PM
Thanks Mike,looks a bit like Mission impossible doesn't it?If they are like other members of my various ancestry lines,they will be of the lowest class and probably didn't own or lease anything which probably makes it harder.
From my records,the marriage of James to Elizabeth Antrobus was in a Roman Catholic church,although their daughter Elizabeth McDermott  married in St Michaels,Toxteth on 20/12/1882 after Banns,so that would have been an Anglican Service,William McDermott was one of the witnesses.
Further to what you're doing,I did have a look at several McDermott records in the Census' hoping to see some of "our"family staying with them,but,to date without success.Will have a further search in that area,I think,will let you know if anything of note comes up.
 
Best Wishes,
 
Rob

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 Message 11 of 19 in Discussion 
From: Rob and JanSent: 2/19/2007 6:00 AM
Hello Mike,
 
Have to admit defeat,haven't seen anything that I can honestly say relates to"my" Henry and James.
If the family came over would,almost certainly,have been to Liverpool.Henry appears to be living apart from James,perhaps not a very close relationship.
 
Best wishes,
 
Rob

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 Message 12 of 19 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 2/19/2007 6:01 PM
Hi Rob,We will not give up just yet,In march i am hoping to get to Kew.In London to the family records center.I will be armed with any info i can.As i have other Records to check also.So will make a day of it.So hopefully we can wait till then.
 
Mike

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 Message 13 of 19 in Discussion 
From: Rob and JanSent: 2/21/2007 5:54 PM
Hi Mike,
 
Thanks for that,guess you don't want to leave any stone unturned.
 
It is hard to follow on though,I reflect on how many of these situations have their solutions within Family,the problem is in contacting people who have information and don't even know it.I haven't succeeded in identifying,let alone getting in contact with,any descendant of Elizabeth McDermott's siblings.
 
Best of luck with all your projects.
 
Rob and Jan

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 2/21/2007 7:12 PM
port of Dundock or Drogheda in County Louth
 
 
Rob,I found out There was A place called DunDock,Its a port in LouthOr Known As Drgheda
Mike

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 Message 15 of 19 in Discussion 
From: Rob and JanSent: 2/22/2007 1:56 AM
Hi Mike,
 
Have had a look on the Multimap(sourced via a link on Curious Fox)Dundock not listed in C.Fox but Drogheda is,note that it's South of Dundalk on mouth of the Boyne River and almost half way between Dundalk and Dublin.
I suppose that both Henry and James would have been 2 of many thousands who left Ireland around the middle of the 19th century,I expect whole families moved on and left little trace behind.
Thanks for your continuing interest.
 
Rob and Jan

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 3/12/2007 11:24 PM
Hi Rob This Site has a lot of info on louth
 
Mike
 

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From: Rob and JanSent: 3/15/2007 12:32 AM
Hi Mike,
Will have a look at the site.
 
Also,was the deleted message to do with me and mine?
 
Rob

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 3/15/2007 1:35 AM
Hi Rob no someone put a message by mistake mike
 

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