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Friendly Debates : Drinking and Partying Question...
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From: Babs  (Original Message)Sent: 1/1/2008 4:51 PM
I enjoy an occasional drink from time to time but personally just don't care that much for alcohol and don't like to be around people who are drunk... especially if I respect them... I am pretty sure it is a control issue on a personal level I never want to lose control of my actions... and it is hard for me to understand why anyone who is otherwise responsible and intelligent would ever want to lose control to that extent.
 
I realize that I may be opening up a can of worms here but this is a question that I have never gotten a decent answer from anyone on... especially anyone who liked to drink and party... over the years I have had numerous friends whose idea of a good time extended to only drinking and partying... to the point of being sick and miserable the next day.
 
There is so much more to life... why do people do this to themselves... why does a good time mean getting drunk and stupid to so many people?????


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From: MSN NicknameCC20010Sent: 1/2/2008 4:10 PM
Sounds like I'm gonna be the odd-diva here.When I drink,I do it at home with Dh.We're not exactly partyanimals anymore.I like to drink because it relaxes me & helps me get to sleep.I've always had a problem GETTING TO sleep(former insominac).Plus,I haven't had trouble with hangovers since I was a teen.Toldya I'm an odd-diva.

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From: MSN NicknameAngelbear1231Sent: 1/2/2008 4:11 PM
MyzteriouzWayz-  Whoa there........... I believe you misintrepreted Joans post. I did not take it the way you did either. You do not know Joan.......
 
Gena-   Thank you.......

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From: MSN Nicknamebluebyrd56Sent: 1/2/2008 4:18 PM
I enjoy the occasional drink.  Not a party animal, anymore!  Did that when I was younger.......leave it to them!  My kids like to go out and drink with them friends (but responsibly so, they always have a designated driver... sometimes it's me going to get them!) and I know I had quite a few margaritas when I went to the Jimmy Buffet concert but walked them off on the way back to the hotel! 5 miles!!!
Sometimes when the work day sucks, the billing gal and I will add a little baileys to the coffee just to be able to laugh about the stress......it's hidden in a drawer in the office.
I don't think having one or two is a problem and I don't think getting blasted is a problem as long as you don't complain the next day about the hangover but if alcohol is a problem within your life....best deal with the reason.

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From: MSN NicknameTarynRoseSent: 1/2/2008 5:03 PM
Absolutely-That incident on the bridge happened right here...I can see the bridge across the water from my house!  He later said he did not know how he had the strength to hold on to her until the 2nd person got there to help him hoist her back up over the side of the bridge.  We call it the Big Blue Bridge...many people have jumped to their death from there and I think at least 1 (maybe 2) survived the fall...it's about 100+ (I think 120) feet.  TRose

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From: MSN NicknameAngelbear1231Sent: 1/2/2008 5:11 PM
Joan- I forgot to mention I watched that Oprah show. It was very emotional when she met the cop that saved her life from the bridge.
 
T-Rose-  What a beautiful sight that must be to view out your window. When I was in Pennsylvania I got to see so many beautiful bridges, more than I had seen in my life and learned to appreciate the beauty of them all.

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From: MSN NicknameabsolutelystumpedSent: 1/2/2008 6:17 PM
MyzteriouzWayz,  I am so sorry you felt I was replying just to you. I wasn't. I was replying to every poster.
 
The question was:
There is so much more to life... why do people do this to themselves... why does a good time mean getting drunk and stupid to so many people?????
 
I gave my reasons in post # 4 .  My # 6  reason should have been: because they are addicted.
You are correct when you say addiction can be overcome. It can. But it is not so easy for many. They would rather throw themselves over a bridge..or in my son's case gas themselves with carbon monoxide  because they feel so helpless in their addiction. Or blow their brains out like my brother did at age 34.
My father was a periodic drinker.  A Sober  inhibited perfectionist, for 3 months then  sloppy sick drunk for a week or so.
 
 
Gena, you said it well. 
Let me add that addicts say they want to unwind and have fun. Not all drinkers who do this are addicts but  many are and just use the excuse.
 
Please don't take individual offense at my opinions. 
 

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From: MSN NicknameMyzteriouzWayzSent: 1/3/2008 4:34 AM
  I do apoligize Joan. I did misunderstand your post. I'm sorry to hear about your son, and your brother. It sounds that you, like me, have certainly seen the deeper side of addiction. I too, lost a family member to addiction and another is near death as we speak. Just last week a childhood friend of my sons commit suicide. I wish it was that easy to say snap out of it. We both know its not.

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From: MSN NicknameabsolutelystumpedSent: 1/3/2008 10:19 AM
Thank you, Karen.
 I like discussions and debating but I certainly don't want anyone mad at me.
 
If you missed a recent  post where I spoke of my son, I am happy to report that after 24 hours in a hyperbaric chamber and a stint on the Psyche ward, he now has 8 years of sobriety.
I am  amazed at the way he turned his life around. Coming that close to death had a profound effect on him.
 
It is so sad when some one like your son's friend commits suicide. They leave behind the unanswered questions and  the wondering of could have prevented it.
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameMyzteriouzWayzSent: 1/3/2008 10:55 AM
 8 years! That is wonderful. I have the utmost respect for anyone who can pull themselves out of such a deep addiction. My mom has also been close to death . The ones I remember vivdly are once in a treatment program and the other was a rape/attempted murder on her life, by someone she met in a state mental hospital.
 I am so happy your son was able to turn his life around. What a gift to himself as well as his family. Fondly, Karen

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From: MSN Nicknamejacki3Sent: 1/3/2008 12:36 PM
as u probably all know by now, i drink like a fish, and smoke like a chimney...hell, i have been plastered in yrs..i guess i built up a hell of a tolerance...won't need to b embalmed..my blood is 80 proof boubon...have bailey in coffee in the morning...i come from a long line of drinkers...but i drink at home...when i went 2 the dr's for being sick from wally...she said i was the healthiest bad habit person she had ever seen..

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From: MSN NicknameTarynRoseSent: 1/3/2008 6:20 PM
lol-jacki....you are so darned honest I could spit!  I just get the biggest kick out of you and I think you would be an absolute hoot to spend an afternoon with....if I ever get to NY state-watch out...I will look you up and you can initiate me to the fine points of alcohol.  Bailey's in  your coffee....Now there's a good creamer for  you! TRose

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From: MSN NicknameHeavyGingerSent: 1/3/2008 7:33 PM
I don't smoke and I don't drink because I really don't enjoy it.My hubby likes his cocktails and cigarettes.

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From: MSN NicknameMyzteriouzWayzSent: 1/4/2008 9:22 AM
LoL...my mom use to say she was preseved in alcohol and didn't need embalming. Baileys in the coffee is good..I indulge once in awhile. When I was younger I had my days...and nights!

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From: MSN Nicknamejacki3Sent: 1/4/2008 12:17 PM
i guess that why i don't have wrinkles, just a few crows ft...i'm 54..and well preserved...lol

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From: MSN NicknameMissRoseBud4Sent: 1/4/2008 9:35 PM
Some consider it just having a good time. I enjoy drinking but not to the point of getting drunk and not knowing what you're doing. Thats stupid.

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